I'm Canadian, so at least I'll have Canadian websites. I'll just migrate to the Deep Web, I already participate in a pretty good forums there. Sure, it's small, but if SOPA does pass, a lot of idiotic kids are going to be flooding the Deep Web, and that will ruin the whole thing.
OT: It won't be long before the "shooting yourselves in the foot" effect comes into play on the same people who back SOPA, so combined with the uproar it'd create and the boost in unemployment from arbitrarily downed websites it'd get overturned within a few years anyway. That said, I don't want to wait a few years to watch another Let's Play...
Some people say ?If you can?t beat them, join them?.
I say ?If you can?t beat them, beat them?, because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
Well, I've already written my representatives. I just hope SOPA doesn't pass. Fact of the matter is, though, is that most Americans don't know about it, because they're more concerned with Jersey Shore, or The Biggest Loser to know what SOPA is, or how it will affect, them. Still, I've told people at work, and they seem mostly apathetic, save for one co-worker who was already a big activist against it.
One of those things, though. You do what you can, and try to get other people to pick up the slack.
Basically, the internet is probably going to die, seeing as Websites like 4chan and Youtube are going to be banned.
But still, there is a slim chance its going to pass, so I am being on the safe side here for now. I'll take up arms once this thing get's close to passing (heaven forbid)
i think i understand sopa differently from you. as far as they know, its just american isp's that stop the dns from aquiring the site for you.. if you live in america. but you can still dodge it DOS style by pinging the site, getting its ip, and then putting the ip in your browser
there are even plugins that do this atomatically for you in a milionth of a second XD
Okay. I see your point, the latest news I heard was "Man, they're taking teh pages down from teh interwebs". That obviously was wrong ^^.
Certainly, blocking 'things' on the web for specific countries is a thing that happens right now (I'm German - Ever heard of GEMA?) which is not good, but when the law is meant for the singularity of USA only I don't see a way of sueing the goverment internationally (which is obvious). It's unjust aswell and I will sign any petition and do the things in my might to stop it, but it makes the case quite harder to solve. (Petitions & Actions against GEMA are old as GEMA itself... god... they're charging kindergardens and schools for singing copyrighted christmas songs in primary classes).
nice little thing to know: they CANT take sites down. EVER. unless the servers are in the USA and they physically burn the server house down XD. ( remove the plug, cut the power, you know the drill )
if they did they people would just put their servers in the philipines, on offshore custom islands etc. (europa, asia, posibly australia if they put some propper cables down to there XD ) all they can do is force that guys that tell your computer where it has to go, not to tell you. XD its a bit like asking a passerby in s strange town where the shops are. he wont tell you, the next guy will. so screw the first guy :3
It's not IP-blocking, just DNS blocking. Basically if you tried to get to www.google.com and it was blocked, you couldn't do anything, but you could type in their IP (8.8.8.8) and it'd get you right there.
I sort of agree with this, as every big company is just going to jump straight out of Silicon valley to Europe/other supportive countries...more business is never a bad thing.
Oh my bad. I'm actually that well known with coding. Alright. We'll DNS block them then.
Well yeah. You probably already heard about the British kid which America is trying to arrest for having a website that's completely legal in the UK. I mean WHAT THE FUCK?! Who the hell do they think they are?!
There was also a case fairly recently with the US trying to close down several UK gambling websites because Americans were going on them and gambling. And I think Gambling is only legal in certain states.
Not sure how that turned out, but I know a lot of countries were getting pissed off about the connotations of them being allowed to succeed.
I think that's kinda the point. Outside of this whole SOPA business even if it doens't quite ban other countries... We're just sick of the US government trying to play police of the world.
I'm sick of the US trying to police everyone as well. I'm sick of other countries allowing themselves to be bullied. There are some American sites that, if blocked, won't be able to be replaced by another country, such as Rooster Teeth. Immigrating isn't as easy as most people seem to think, I've been trying to get out of this country for five years now, I have health, skills, and a good education, but the countries I've been trying to get into don't seem to want an escaping American.
I'll enjoy hearing how these company's in support of SOPA now start losing money hand over fist cause they killed the best marketing and distribution option they had
I'll enjoy hearing how these company's in support of SOPA now start losing money hand over fist cause they killed the best marketing and distribution option they had
lol, that's probably true, but the morons that want this thing only care about the bottom line, NOT the damage they will end up doing to get it, >.> ya know, kind makes them as bad as terrorists in a way
And this is what tor [https://www.torproject.org/] is for.
If SOPA passes I'm going to set myself to using tor exclusively, the government can go fuck itself if it thinks it can stop me from going where I damned well please online.
I'm Canadian, so at least I'll have Canadian websites. I'll just migrate to the Deep Web, I already participate in a pretty good forums there. Sure, it's small, but if SOPA does pass, a lot of idiotic kids are going to be flooding the Deep Web, and that will ruin the whole thing.
OT: It won't be long before the "shooting yourselves in the foot" effect comes into play on the same people who back SOPA, so combined with the uproar it'd create and the boost in unemployment from arbitrarily downed websites it'd get overturned within a few years anyway. That said, I don't want to wait a few years to watch another Let's Play...
It's a kind of hidden internet underneath the internet. You can only get on it using the TOR browser, and preferably several proxies. It's the place where prostitutes are sold, hitmen are hired, and drugs are dealed. There's a lot of good information down there, but you have to be careful. If you want info on getting in, you can send me a PM if you need to.
<link=http://www.esotech.org/blog/technology/how-to-unblock-sopa-with-local-hosts-file-solutions-and-discussion>This site gives a pretty basic explanation of what I'll be doing if it passes and anything I care about gets blocked. Why manually type in IP addresses when I can essentially make my own private DNS, which the government can't touch without seizing my computer? Plus, it's /really/ easy to do. I used it to do the opposite, and block Facebook, youtube, and The Escapist during finals week last year so it would be harder for me to stop doing research to goof around.
I'm Canadian, so at least I'll have Canadian websites. I'll just migrate to the Deep Web, I already participate in a pretty good forums there. Sure, it's small, but if SOPA does pass, a lot of idiotic kids are going to be flooding the Deep Web, and that will ruin the whole thing.
OT: It won't be long before the "shooting yourselves in the foot" effect comes into play on the same people who back SOPA, so combined with the uproar it'd create and the boost in unemployment from arbitrarily downed websites it'd get overturned within a few years anyway. That said, I don't want to wait a few years to watch another Let's Play...
It's a kind of hidden internet underneath the internet. You can only get on it using the TOR browser, and preferably several proxies. It's the place where prostitutes are sold, hitmen are hired, and drugs are dealed. There's a lot of good information down there, but you have to be careful. If you want info on getting in, you can send me a PM if you need to.
That's how 4Chan describes it, anyway. There's actually more to the deepweb than what you can get to just with the help of TOR; the figures on the amount of information contained in the deepweb include .onion sites (which you can only get to with TOR) a few other pseudo-top level domains, which need their own similar program, plus just about any other page that Google can't find, such as dynamically generated pages on company websites. Although yeah, I doubt they'd want to shut down TOR; it was developed for Naval Intelligence in the first place, they need it.
Edit: Which is why people tell you to avoid the Marianas web. That's where various classified websites that use TOR protocol are found.
Edit Edit: There's also the dark web, which is just stuff on the internet that nothing can connect to anymore because the protocols are so old. It's mostly remnants of Arpanet that haven't been disconnected for whatever reason.
I actually found a list of different IP adress for the servers of different websites, so I could still probably connect to pirating website (not like I'd use them though). Also, pirate ALWAYS find a way, you can use SOPA to nuke them back to the '90s, but they'll still recover.
The escapist might look alittle different, however.
Just did an nslookup for The Escapist's IP. It's 209.34.224.72. Please add it to that list if you would. I'd appreciate being able to visit if the Web is effectively shut down.
I don't know what to do if SOPA passes, but I'm fighting it as much as one citizen can. It sucks that the only way to punish piracy is to punish all Internet users, but that is what happens when the government wants to be lazy and not set up a proper solution.
A situation like that? Only one thing TO do- give up. "It's just the Internet", they'll say. "Stop being such a nerd and get a life", they'll say. "Maybe you'll finally get some time outside", and so on. It's pretty damn hard to seem respectable and sincere when you're bitching about how you can't watch/download what you want on the Internet.
Well, Ideally the government gets to watch as all the money that the internet pours into the economy just suddenly stops coming as advertisers get way too scared.
And then they realize how freaking stupid the entire bill is and it, and any discussion of something similar is scrapped forever, and the government finally gets up off its knees and tells the industry lobbyists "NO MORE".
But, that will never happen. So, I don't really know what would happen, or what I would do. I'd probably latch on to some sort of protest group or movement, even going so far as to actually travel to Washington or some place if need be.
I wouldn't sit around though, I'd take action.
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