I mean, no... it's not that. We have no dignity to lose on that front, I think it's just that they primarily are designed to appeal to people who want to be vaguely teased, while the west is less terrified of women with pubic hair, or who don't cry like toddlers when they have sex.Hawki said:"What's keeping the West from making DOAX style games?"
Dignity?
Would you say that porn with game elements, or a game with porn elements isn't a game? Because there's plenty of both available on the internet for free. By comparison, pink literature isn't literature? A porno isn't a movie?Cid Silverwing said:Because if you want porn, YOU WATCH PORN.
Games are not porn. Or movies.
Stop trying to make games a pornographic media.
while you COULD say something like this is the reason, it's not.Johnny Novgorod said:A history of religious prudery, for starters.
This is.Andy Shandy said:If I had to guess, because it doesn't sell. While the games generate controversy and discussion, they don't make money.
Nonsense, of course there is. But the developers have to give at least as much attention to the gameplay as to the T&A, plus they have to be willing to tell the inevitable screaming Tumblrites and concerned mothers to go fuck themselves.erttheking said:That and the fact that, despite all the hustle and bustle, there isn't a freaking audience for it.Johnny Novgorod said:A history of religious prudery, for starters.
There really isn't. It's as niche as niche games get, and are far below the 'consumer size' threshold of companies like Rockstar. Even Dead or Alive, the flagship 'boner genre' game in the United States, isn't financially viable, and it's decline started long before 'Tumblrites' were a thing.infohippie said:Nonsense, of course there is. But the developers have to give at least as much attention to the gameplay as to the T&A, plus they have to be willing to tell the inevitable screaming Tumblrites and concerned mothers to go fuck themselves.erttheking said:That and the fact that, despite all the hustle and bustle, there isn't a freaking audience for it.Johnny Novgorod said:A history of religious prudery, for starters.
Look around communities such as Undertow Club and Lewd Gamer and you'll see there's a substantial audience for games like this. Though preferably with more nudity or at least easily amenable to modding such things in.
Why do you think they don't sell.Lunar Templar said:while you COULD say something like this is the reason, it's not.Johnny Novgorod said:A history of religious prudery, for starters.
This is.Andy Shandy said:If I had to guess, because it doesn't sell. While the games generate controversy and discussion, they don't make money.
I'd say the West is terrified of games with younger children in them, as for actual children I'd say we're worse.Einspanner said:I mean, no... it's not that. We have no dignity to lose on that front, I think it's just that they primarily are designed to appeal to people who want to be vaguely teased, while the west is less terrified of women with pubic hair, or who don't cry like toddlers when they have sex.Hawki said:"What's keeping the West from making DOAX style games?"
Dignity?
It's niche, sure, but the DOA games' main problem is that they were shit games. It's not enough to spend all your budget on boob physics and designing skimpy outfits. You've got to have a genuinely enjoyable game underneath it all. Make a fun game WITH T&A and it will sell. Make a game that has nothing to appeal beyond the T&A and people will go "Meh, why bother when I could just watch porn?"AccursedTheory said:There really isn't. It's as niche as niche games get, and are far below the 'consumer size' threshold of companies like Rockstar. Even Dead or Alive, the flagship 'boner genre' game in the United States, isn't financially viable, and it's decline started long before 'Tumblrites' were a thing.infohippie said:Nonsense, of course there is. But the developers have to give at least as much attention to the gameplay as to the T&A, plus they have to be willing to tell the inevitable screaming Tumblrites and concerned mothers to go fuck themselves.erttheking said:That and the fact that, despite all the hustle and bustle, there isn't a freaking audience for it.Johnny Novgorod said:A history of religious prudery, for starters.
Look around communities such as Undertow Club and Lewd Gamer and you'll see there's a substantial audience for games like this. Though preferably with more nudity or at least easily amenable to modding such things in.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. If people on Tumblr keep devs from releasing a game overseas, either they have no drive or they have no spines. Either way I don't feel sorry for them and consider the blame to be on their shoulders. Also a game that has massive amounts of T&A AND good gameplay. Yeah...I don't see that happening. That's about as likely as there being a complex and engaging love story...call me if a game manages to actually do that though because having all three would be goddamn amazing.infohippie said:Nonsense, of course there is. But the developers have to give at least as much attention to the gameplay as to the T&A, plus they have to be willing to tell the inevitable screaming Tumblrites and concerned mothers to go fuck themselves.erttheking said:That and the fact that, despite all the hustle and bustle, there isn't a freaking audience for it.Johnny Novgorod said:A history of religious prudery, for starters.
Look around communities such as Undertow Club and Lewd Gamer and you'll see there's a substantial audience for games like this. Though preferably with more nudity or at least easily amenable to modding such things in.
Interestingly, there is a post HERE [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/9.940660.23727832] from someone working in the adult gaming field that says there is actually quite a demand for it, but distributors are their biggest problem - basically they're afraid to be associated with this kind of content, which I believe stems directly from the west's sexual hangups.Lightspeaker said:I'm vaguely amused by several people in here saying "its not that the west has sexual hang-ups, its that they don't sell". Never occurred to you that they don't sell BECAUSE the west has sexual hang-ups?
I bought NekoPara volumes 0, 1, and 2, and am eagerly awaiting volume 3 which will hopefully focus on Cinnamon and... Maple, I think? I also bought HuniePop and enjoyed it immensely. I'm used to staring down weird looks, though I imagine most gamers would prefer not to have to deal with that.Lightspeaker said:Think about it this way: two people walk into Tesco. One buys the new Doom; a game about violently slaughtering demons in showers of blood, ripping them apart with your bare hands, etc etc. One buys Nekopara; a cutesy, funny, 'naughty' visual novel about catgirls but still relatively tame.
Who is more likely to get a weird look from the cashier? Because I'd put money on it being the second.