What's the opposite of a SJW?

[IceForce]

I am genuinely clueless why you even compare it to Sarkeesian,

Uh, both have received hate through twitter? Unless you're claiming that Anita has received NO hate or harassment through twitter whatsoever, ever.

Just so I'm clear, is ^that what you're actually arguing? You're arguing that Anita has never received hate through twitter? Because if so, I have some links you might like to see. You might even already be familiar with them.

"You can read the hate back yourself, it's right frigging there on Twitter"

Oh wow, you really want me to post the Anita links again, don't you.

Either way, this applies to both Anita, and the TG dev. Both have received hate through twitter.

"the allegations were investigated extensively by the FBI, and found to be bollocks".

Did the FBI investigate the TG dev's case? What was the outcome of that investigation? How serious were these threats that they received?

 

[Exley97_v1legacy]

I am genuinely clueless why you even compare it to Sarkeesian, whose claims about being threatened were investigated by the FBI and they found no threats. I don't see how "You can read the hate back yourself, it's right frigging there on Twitter" can be compared to "the allegations were investigated extensively by the FBI, and found to be bollocks".

That's actually quite incorrect. The threats were real. That's why the FBI (and not local law enforcement) investigated both the late August 2014 Twitter threat (which was considered serious and credible because it contained her address and names of family/friends) and the Utah St. University incident (for obvious reasons). In the case of the Utah St. threat, the authorities investigated and assessed threat and determined that it was similar to other threats Sarkeesian had received recently, i.e. designed to harass.

So no, it wasn't "bollocks." But nice try, though.

 

[IceForce]

Citation provided: https://twitter.com/jimsterling/status/678639761335042048

Ah, so a victim of intense harassment hopes that one of the whiners dies as a result of his obesity. Not completely politically correct, but understandable given the circumstances. It's not a threat however.

You're absolutely right, it's not a death threat. It's a death wish, but not a threat, per se.

There were death threats? Harassment? Dog-piling? Then why don't you show us some of them, like we've been asking you this whole time?

Uhm, you were given a link earlier on that compiled a nice list. I'm not really inclined to spend hours making a puppet account (I'm on the SJW blockbot list because I'm a heretic) and trailing through dozens of accounts run by hatemongers to compile a list, only to see it ignored.

But, I'll add to the list anyways;
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/comments/579369967

Spoiler: warning for inapropriate language

rocky21212 7 jan om 9:35vm
Mother of Satan.......................

R U L E S O F N A T U R E 30 dec 2015 om 8:21nm
go back to the favelas.

Dutch Thunder 26 dec 2015 om 9:46vm
BURN IT!!!!

Brids17 5 jan om 1:04vm
I don't know what's worse, the fact that the original title was a slur or the horribly racist depiction of black people in this game.

Whitefang 1 jan om 4:19vm
out of all the hate filled, low production value 'lol we bad and its funny' piles of crap i have seen pissed onto greenlight i have been no prouder to vote no then this one

Kotorfan3231 31 dec 2015 om 4:07vm
this game is a fucking disgrace, shame on these devleopers.

Uhh, I'm not seeing any death threats anywhere in this. We established above exactly what a death threat is and isn't, and you've come along and posted examples of ...what isn't.

It can't be a misunderstanding, because you demonstrated above exactly what 'death threat' means. So it seems remarkably odd to post examples of something that isn't the thing you're claiming.

Want to try that again? I looked at the Breitbart link too, but I didn't see any death threats there either.
I'm either an idiot or going blind, so could you copy-paste the part(s) of the article that illustrate the death threats? Thanks heaps.

 

[Exley97_v1legacy]

That's actually quite incorrect. The threats were real. That's why the FBI (and not local law enforcement) investigated both the late August 2014 Twitter threat (which was considered serious and credible because it contained her address and names of family/friends) and the Utah St. University incident (for obvious reasons).

That's contrary to sources which I saw, including video of the FBI spokesperson for the case, who concluded no threats had been found.

Do you have a source for this? Considering the massive amount of lies the feminist group pumps out, and their extremist and hatefull character (I mean, 'all gamers are sexist', how far gone is she?), citation would be needed before it can be taken seriously.

Where, exactly, is your source, and to incident are you referring? And what do you mean by "no threats have been found"? Are you saying that the threats themselves were fake/non-existent or that the authorities investigated the threats and determined that the threats were designed to harass Sarkeesian and were unlikely to be carried out? Big difference.

Anyway, here are mine:

"San Francisco police public information officer Albie Esparza told Polygon that Sarkeesian had filed a report with the police department about the threats she received online and that the police department handed the information to the FBI for investigation."
http://www.polygon.com/2014/9/17/6225835/fbi-investigating-anita-sarkeesian-threats

"A number of personnel at Utah State University received an email regarding the scheduled presentation by Anita Sarkeesian tomorrow, October 15, 2014, at USU's Taggart Student Center. The email contained threats to Sarkeesian and those who attend her presentation."
http://www.usu.edu/today/index.cfm?id=54178

"A multi-law enforcement agency task force, including the FBI, was hunting Wednesday for the author of an email threatening bloody mayhem at Utah State University if feminist writer Anita Sarkeesian spoke on campus."
http://www.sltrib.com/news/justice/1708726-155/sarkeesian-usu-law-fbi-vitale-threat

In the case of the Utah St. threat, the authorities investigated and assessed threat and determined that it was similar to other threats Sarkeesian had received recently, i.e. designed to harass.

That sounds like a fancy way of saying "No credible threats were found", making me even more suspicious. That Sarkeesian loves playing victim using self-fabricated 'threats' and by taking internet trolling seriously to waste police time, is pretty well known, so once again, citation direly needed.

"Fabricated"? "Trolling"? Seriously? THEY'RE REAL. Someone threatened to shoot up a fucking school if she spoke there. That's a waste of time to you?

"USU police ? working with FBI cyber-crime experts and other law enforcement computer specialists, such as the Statewide Information & Analysis Center (SIAC) ? are taking the threat seriously. "There's no doubt: We are going to pursue this. The investigation is underway," Vitale said. "We have the best people in the business on this, tracing the email and IP [Internet Protocol] addresses, following that trail to the end."
http://www.sltrib.com/news/justice/1708726-155/sarkeesian-usu-law-fbi-vitale-threat

 

[Exley97_v1legacy]

Answer me a simple question before we go on:

Are you interested in the facts? yes/no

Because the online harassment and the dogpiling is neatly catalogued on that page, and that's what you asked for. If you refuse to even read that, but then continue to deny that SJWs engaged in a massive harassment campaign, then I'm going to stop the discussion here, since you're not interested in it.

So wait, you're saying the threats against Sarkeesian are fabricating and just Internet trolling ("I didn't *really* mean I was going to rape you and your family members with a baseball bat covered in rusty nails, it was obviously a joke!") but the stuff the Tranny Gladiator developer got is "massive harassment"? Are you serious?

 

[Barbas]

Oh my god. Oh my holy fucking god. Guys, guys, guys, I figured it out. Listen...

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[HEADING=2]It's a WJS[/HEADING]​

Yeah, that's right. All along. Victory is mine.

 

[IceForce]

but the stuff the Tranny Gladiator developer got is "massive harassment"? Are you serious?

Yes, I am serious when I say that a an innocent guy who never asked for anything, who gets pile of harassment, a pile of negative posts and death threats, is massive harassment.

Source for the death threats? This is about the 3rd or 4th time you've been asked, and you still haven't provided.

The Breitbart link you provided earlier does not support this claim. You can test this yourself by opening that link, pressing Ctrl+F, and typing "death" into the find box. The results (or rather, lack of results) might surprise you.

So, when you reply to people with lines like this:

Do you have a source for this?

so once again, citation direly needed.

A - citation needed

... but you refuse to provide a source yourself supporting your own claims when asked, it makes it very difficult to believe you're discussing in good faith.

So with that in mind:

What about:
Intense campaign of harassment and death threats towards an innocent victim - acceptable
Single tweet stating that a fat person can go get a heart attack for all he cares - OHNOES the horror!

Please provide evidence/source/citation for this "intense campaign of harassment and death threats" claim. Please do not snip this out, dodge the point, or otherwise ignore it.

 

[IceForce]

Please provide evidence/source/citation for this "intense campaign of harassment and death threats" claim. Please do not snip this out, dodge the point, or otherwise ignore it.

So far there's been no evidence to the contrary.

"The Escapist ran a story about Quinn's harassment in late 2013 with little evidence other than her word."
-- Greg Tito, August 2014

At the time, this quote was held up and heralded as the scandal of the century.

Now here we are, 18 months on, and suddenly Gamergate has done a complete about-turn. Suddenly now claims of "harassment" and "death threats" can be automatically taken as gospel, with only one person's word on it.

Why the double-standards? Why the gosh darn double-standards?

Make no mistake, if this was a feminist or whatever making a claim of "harassment and death threats", even the most concrete and iron-clad evidence wouldn't be enough to convince you.
And yet, in the case of the Tranny Glad dev, you believe every single word of it, no proof required?

Seriously, why the double-standards?

If you'd read the previous discussion, you'd have seen I've already provided links and examples.

Examples of death threats? Where? Because I haven't seen any posted in this thread so far.

Maybe I'm going blind, or my web browser is glitching and not rendering this page correctly, or... SOMETHING is going wrong, I know it, because I still haven't seen any of these multitude of death threats you keep talking about, and yet you're adamant you've posted them.

Do you want to, y'know, post the examples again? Maybe they got edited out by a mod, or... hell I don't know. I'm starting to get worried here.