What's the point of having a girlfriend/boyfriend?

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First off, I don't want to make this thread about me, but I feel I should give context to my viewpoint by explaining two things about me...

Firstly, I'm quite reclusive. It's previously been the source of much embarrassment and self-loathing because almost everyone puts pressure on me to "come out of my shell" (especially in Ireland, where being reclusive is so unheard-of people treat it like being a heroin addict or something), but in the last few years I've come to the realisation (after trying to force myself to be more sociable and failing on many occasions), that being reclusive is an integral part of who I am. In fact, I've decided to be proud of the fact that I'm secure in myself enough to enjoy my own company, and I think it's kind of pitiable when people need to spend every waking moment with another person because they're too dull or afraid to be alone with themselves (to be clear: I don't mean people who socialise are pitiable, I mean people who have no hobbies, or even a proper personal life outside of hanging with their friends and partying all the time. I've known people like that. They think they're "living life to the fullest" and that I should be more like them. But when they're on their own, they complain about how bored they are and beg people to hang out with them. That's what I find pitiable.)

Secondly, contrary to what you might be thinking, girls often come on to me. I went through a bit of an ugly phase in secondary school, so I know what it's like to be invisible to women. But it built character, and now the compensatory charm and humility that came with being unattractive works to magnify my current handsomeness. Plus there's about a dozen other ways in which I'm awesome (my sense of modesty still needs work though). It's funny how much nicer women are to me now that I'm one of the hot guys, though. They're just as bad as men when it comes to thinking with their reproductive organs, really.

Anyway, I don't really understand what the point of being in a relationship is, at least at my stage in life (21-year-old college student). I love that feeling, when everything you're supposed to do is done, and you have a whole day to spend on yourself, doing whatever you want. I tend to begrudge anything or anyone that tries to take it away from me. And I especially resent it when people feel entitled to my free time. Of the few relationships I've started, they inevitably end because the girl wants to waste an entire day "just hanging out", and either I refuse and she gets pissed off, or I relent and end up thinking of her as a chore. Are all relationships like that? Am I just being uncompromising?

A lot of my friends are starting to get girlfriends/boyfriends, and when I ask them why, they say things such as "for the sex" or "it's like having a friend you can screw" or "it's so nice to have someone to cuddle and get affection from" or "someone to pick you up when you're feeling down" (here's a fun game: guess the genders of the speakers!). But I don't really feel the need for any of that. And I have a suspicion that's the key word: need. I have a theory that all relationships (romantic or otherwise) are formed on the basis of mutual need. And, being content on my own, I don't really feel the need for a girlfriend. But maybe that's just me rationalising my own failure to commit (as a pop psych women's mag dating columnist might say).

What do you think? What's the point of being in a relationship? What do you gain out of it (or hope to gain out of it, if you're not in one)? And what do you lose out of it? Is it worth it?
 

Loop Stricken

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Companionship and sex.

Edit: I'm reclusive too. used to think I'd get along just fine disassociated with anyone else.
Life happened; I no longer feel that way.
And the reasoning behind sex is self-evident.
 

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Because arranged marriages aren't exactly the most popular thing in Western culture anymore.
 

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People are in relationships because they enjoy each others company.
For some people, when they get that feeling, when everything they're supposed to do is done, they choose to spend their time with other people, because they like spending time with other people.
 

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James Joseph Emerald said:
I have a theory that all relationships (romantic or otherwise) are formed on the basis of mutual need.
My theory?

Bad relationships are formed on the basis of singular need.
Okay relationships are formed on the basis of mutual need.
Great relationships are formed on the basis of mutual want.

If you actually need a boy- or girlfriend then I don't think you're going to have a good relationship, because you're not a full person on your own. You need someone else.

For a good relationship I think you need two people who want to be together, but don't need to. They could leave each other, they'd still lead happy and fulfilling lives. But they don't want to because their lives are even better when they're together.
 

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I have a girlfriend because she makes me happy. She is a genuinely fun person to be with, and hanging out with her is pretty much always better than being alone.
 

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Hagi said:
James Joseph Emerald said:
I have a theory that all relationships (romantic or otherwise) are formed on the basis of mutual need.
My theory?

Bad relationships are formed on the basis of singular need.
Okay relationships are formed on the basis of mutual need.
Great relationships are formed on the basis of mutual want.

If you actually need a boy- or girlfriend then I don't think you're going to have a good relationship, because you're not a full person on your own. You need someone else.

For a good relationship I think you need two people who want to be together, but don't need to. They could leave each other, they'd still lead happy and fulfilling lives. But they don't want to because their lives are even better when they're together.
This one got it ^^ When you find someone you want to be with, and that person wants to be with you, why the hell not? It's not like you need it, but when you do have it, and it's good. Then it's damn good!

I love being with my better half, have enjoyed it for 3 years now. Fun, loving, good looking, let the good times roll.
 

ShindoL Shill

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Loop Stricken said:
Companionship and sex.

Edit: I'm reclusive too. used to think I'd get along just fine disassociated with anyone else.
Life happened; I no longer feel that way.
And the reasoning behind sex is self-evident.
there you go. someone to be friends with and shag. i would much rather be able to go up to someone and say 'up for a quick fuck tonight? you're busy... well then... the bathrooms free.'

it would cut out a few metric fucktonnes of bullshit and make everyone happy.
and smell of jizz.
but mostly happy.
 

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TrilbyWill said:
there you go. someone to be friends with and shag. i would much rather be able to go up to someone and say 'up for a quick fuck tonight? you're busy... well then... the bathrooms free.'

it would cut out a few metric fucktonnes of bullshit and make everyone happy.
and smell of jizz.
but mostly happy.
Never understood this attitude.

What you're describing sounds basically like masturbation to me. But instead of using your hand you use someone else's body.

Maybe it's a lack of much experience speaking, but I want more from sex. Cuddling, spooning, stroking, foreplay etc.

And I realize that you could also do that in a one-night-stand, but is it really the same?

I think the 'few metric fucktonnes of bullshit' AKA emotional attachment is what makes sex really special. And without it it's just mutual masturbation, and to be honest it's just much easier to use my hand for that.
 
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Hagi said:
For a good relationship I think you need two people who want to be together, but don't need to. They could leave each other, they'd still lead happy and fulfilling lives. But they don't want to because their lives are even better when they're together.
I get what you're saying. But I also think it's a bit semantical. I mean, if their objective is to have the best life possible (as far as they can tell in the short-term), then they need each other, or their objective won't be met. You can obviously survive without most things (i.e. all you really need is food, air, water, etc.) but I find that people in a relationship both have a mutual need to be in a relationship. Y'know what I mean? It's the need that underlies the whole thing. For example, there's times when people wish they weren't married/in a relationship, but that doesn't mean they immediately get divorced/break up.
 

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Hagi said:
TrilbyWill said:
there you go. someone to be friends with and shag. i would much rather be able to go up to someone and say 'up for a quick fuck tonight? you're busy... well then... the bathrooms free.'

it would cut out a few metric fucktonnes of bullshit and make everyone happy.
and smell of jizz.
but mostly happy.
Never understood this attitude.

What you're describing sounds basically like masturbation to me. But instead of using your hand you use someone else's body.

Maybe it's a lack of much experience speaking, but I want more from sex. Cuddling, spooning, stroking, foreplay etc.

And I realize that you could also do that in a one-night-stand, but is it really the same?

I think the 'few metric fucktonnes of bullshit' AKA emotional attachment is what makes sex really special. And without it it's just mutual masturbation, and to be honest it's just much easier to use my hand for that.
i see your point.
i raise you the crap involved with marriages, failed marriages, and abusive relationships (which the abused party tends not to see until they put on their Hindsight Glasses).
i would much rather be able to just fuck any of a group of friends when we both feel like it without feeling like i have to commit to one single person.
 

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Hagi said:
James Joseph Emerald said:
I have a theory that all relationships (romantic or otherwise) are formed on the basis of mutual need.
My theory?

Bad relationships are formed on the basis of singular need.
Okay relationships are formed on the basis of mutual need.
Great relationships are formed on the basis of mutual want.

If you actually need a boy- or girlfriend then I don't think you're going to have a good relationship, because you're not a full person on your own. You need someone else.

For a good relationship I think you need two people who want to be together, but don't need to. They could leave each other, they'd still lead happy and fulfilling lives. But they don't want to because their lives are even better when they're together.
Sounds about good to me. Not speaking from experience, (which gives me an excellent Ivory Towery objective distance), I seem to find myself amazed by the idea of an actually romantic relationship, as opposed to one solely based on screwing all day.
 

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hm, well, companionship, having a truly close relationship, being with someone that you connect with on a level that cant be had with a friend.
 

Hagi

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James Joseph Emerald said:
Hagi said:
For a good relationship I think you need two people who want to be together, but don't need to. They could leave each other, they'd still lead happy and fulfilling lives. But they don't want to because their lives are even better when they're together.
I get what you're saying. But I also think it's a bit semantical. I mean, if their objective is to have the best life possible (as far as they can tell in the short-term), then they need each other, or their objective won't be met. You can obviously survive without most things (i.e. all you really need is food, air, water, etc.) but I find that people in a relationship both have a mutual need to be in a relationship. Y'know what I mean? It's the need that underlies the whole thing. For example, there's times when people wish they weren't married/in a relationship, but that doesn't mean they immediately get divorced/break up.
Yeah it is semantics. Problem is that we only really have 2 words where we need/want a few more.

There's basic survival (food, air, water, etc.)
There's a basic fulfilling and happy life (some companionship, not too many worries, etc.)
There's the best possible life you could lead (great companionship, secure in most aspects of your life, etc.)

And of course everything in between.

I'd call the first 'require', the second 'need' and the third 'want'. But as you say, that's semantics and can cause confusion and such.
 

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James Joseph Emerald said:
First off, I don't want to make this thread about me, but I feel I should give context to my viewpoint by explaining two things about me...

Firstly, I'm quite reclusive. It's previously been the source of much embarrassment and self-loathing because almost everyone puts pressure on me to "come out of my shell" (especially in Ireland, where being reclusive is so unheard-of people treat it like being a heroin addict or something), but in the last few years I've come to the realisation (after trying to force myself to be more sociable and failing on many occasions), that being reclusive is an integral part of who I am. In fact, I've decided to be proud of the fact that I'm secure in myself enough to enjoy my own company, and I think it's kind of pitiable when people need to spend every waking moment with another person because they're too dull or afraid to be alone with themselves.

Secondly, contrary to what you might be thinking, girls often come on to me. I went through a bit of an ugly phase in secondary school, so I know what it's like to be invisible to women. But it built character, and now the compensatory charm and humility that came with being unattractive works to magnify my current handsomeness. Plus there's about a dozen other ways in which I'm awesome (my sense of modesty still needs work though). It's funny how much nicer women are to me now that I'm one of the hot guys, though. They're just as bad as men when it comes to thinking with their reproductive organs, really.

Anyway, I don't really understand what the point of being in a relationship is, at least at my stage in life (21-year-old college student). I love that feeling, when everything you're supposed to do is done, and you have a whole day to spend on yourself, doing whatever you want. I tend to begrudge anything or anyone that tries to take it away from me. And I especially resent it when people feel entitled to my free time. Of the few relationships I've started, they inevitably end because the girl wants to waste an entire day "just hanging out", and either I refuse and she gets pissed off, or I relent and end up thinking of her as a chore. Are all relationships like that? Am I just being uncompromising?

A lot of my friends are starting to get girlfriends/boyfriends, and when I ask them why, they say things such as "for the sex" or "it's like having a friend you can screw" or "it's so nice to have someone to cuddle and get affection from" or "someone to pick you up when you're feeling down" (here's a fun game: guess the genders of the speakers!). But I don't really feel the need for any of that. And I have a suspicion that's the key word: need. I have a theory that all relationships (romantic or otherwise) are formed on the basis of mutual need. And, being content on my own, I don't really feel the need for a girlfriend. But maybe that's just me rationalising my own failure to commit (as a pop psych women's mag dating columnist might say).

What do you think? What's the point of being in a relationship? What do you gain out of it (or hope to gain out of it, if you're not in one)? And what do you lose out of it? Is it worth it?
First, you sound like my clone.
Look up 'introvert'. It's essentially the professional term for recluse.
I'm 17, and never had a proper girlfriend for the same reasons. I just don't see the point. I already have enough close friends I don't have much of a sex drive, and I honestly just don't see the point.
 

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My advice is to get married. If she's a good wife, you'll be happy. If she is not, you'll be a philosopher.
-Socrates

In all seriousness, being in a relationship (with the right person) is a lot of fun, particularly one who's willing to be your partner in life as well as your lover.

You won't agree on everything, but the good will far outweigh the bad. I must stress, however, that it should be the RIGHT person. Just because she's a good person, doesn't make her the right person.

What I get out of the relationship with my wife, is someone who supports me in accomplishing the things I want to do with my life, and vice-versa. We both work, and contribute to the family so we're both able to take risks without worrying too much if we fail because the other is there to back us up. There's a very relieving sense of security in that.

But that's a bit too far down the road for the OP I take it, but my wife was my girlfriend at one point, and I got much from that as well. As others have astutely pointed out, making a new friend was great - and having a friend who would touch you (and who you would WANT to touch you) was killer. She was always someone who was down to hang out, and as our relationship grew; someone who believed in me and someone who I believed in.

The sacrifice? Well, I'm limited to living within a fixed geographic area for the forseeable future. I don't get to play videogames as much as I'd like or watch the shows I want precisely when I want to watch them. She also frowns on porn. She messed her car up a few weeks ago, so paying for that was a pain.

Is it worth it? To me: an emphatic and unqualified yes. If that doesn't sound worth it to you; maybe you're right in staying out of a relationship.

But in all honesty: my life would be a much darker place without her. Good luck to you.
 

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I had a great time being single. I then met a woman Who I loved to spend time with, I prefered that to being single, which I found really enjoyable to begin with. She makes me laugh everyday and looks fantastic. She is caring and gives good advice. Any downsides? She insists on feeding me constantly, she is always thinks I've not eaten enough.

Go with whatever you enjoy. I wasn't looking for a relationship, it found me.
 

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TrilbyWill said:
i see your point.
i raise you the crap involved with marriages, failed marriages, and abusive relationships (which the abused party tends not to see until they put on their Hindsight Glasses).
i would much rather be able to just fuck any of a group of friends when we both feel like it without feeling like i have to commit to one single person.
I don't know... I don't think the fact that some people horrendously screw relationships up means that they're not worth doing.

Not every marriage fails, although you do have a point that there's quite a lot of them that do.
Not every relationship is abusive, although again you have a point that there's a frighteningly large number that is.

But I think that if you start a relationship with a mature and rational attitude you can avoid those traps and get something that's, in my eyes, infinitely more valuable then being able to fuck any of a group of friends when we both feel like it without feeling like I have to commit to one single person.

I simply don't consider commitment a negative. It's something positive in my eyes.
 

ShindoL Shill

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Hagi said:
TrilbyWill said:
i see your point.
i raise you the crap involved with marriages, failed marriages, and abusive relationships (which the abused party tends not to see until they put on their Hindsight Glasses).
i would much rather be able to just fuck any of a group of friends when we both feel like it without feeling like i have to commit to one single person.
I don't know... I don't think the fact that some people horrendously screw relationships up means that they're not worth doing.

Not every marriage fails, although you do have a point that there's quite a lot of them that do.
Not every relationship is abusive, although again you have a point that there's a frighteningly large number that is.

But I think that if you start a relationship with a mature and rational attitude you can avoid those traps and get something that's, in my eyes, infinitely more valuable then being able to fuck any of a group of friends when we both feel like it without feeling like I have to commit to one single person.

I simply don't consider commitment a negative. It's something positive in my eyes.
my main problem with marriage is the fact that people spend all this money to stand up and say 'i love you'. you could get married at city hall and invite your friends round for dinner.
and i understand not every relationship is abusive, but there are just the plain old broken ones their side lets die. example: i have a friend who broke up with his girlfriend 5 times in 3 months this year. every time they just pretend it never happened like their entire relationship is a computer and theyre resetting it to the last point it worked. which is right before they fucked it up.