What's your alignment?
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I'm Chaotic Good according to the test in the original link, but I would challenge many of the questions. I find it interesting how people still cling to what is all but a sacred cow in the D20 system. It's a model of morality that predates the Napoleonic Law [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Contract].
Our legal issues since the twentieth century have exceeded the simplistic standards such as loyalty to a king.I define my loyalty not to a ruler but to the flag that flies above him, hence, for example, I might not poison a benevolent king, but as a student open to the methods of warfare and subterfuge, I would poison a tyrant for the betterment of the country and its people.
A better structure for the contemporary era is being studied by MoralFoundations.org [http://faculty.virginia.edu/haidtlab/mft/index.php], which is a study that attempts to break down the fundamentals of the value systems we have today, and why there is such a divergence between groups, all of whom think their own value system is stronger good than those of others.
As for myself, I value the harm/care and fairness/reciprocity morals than I do the other three (ingroup/loyalty, authority/respect, purity/sanctity) but as a fringe non-conformist, I've found these latter values used against me by my own communities even though I am a basically good person. And the Bush era taught the US in certain terms that we cannot always trust the letter of the law to be right (e.g. when it directs torture against human beings, or willingly allows agencies or companies to invade the privacy of individuals).
The Bold Knights of Old rarely had to concern themselves with matters such as women's reproductive rights, the personhood of corporations, censorship of free speech, or (a current dilemma) the rights of artificially manufactured persons. And said knights typically did not do well in protecting the rights of fringe groups, whether religious schisms, alternative sexualities or practitioners of scientific observation that contested religious doctrine.
A good example of universal law, that is the rights and responsibilities we would endow to everyone were it possible, can be found in the Just War [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Convention].
Our legal issues since the twentieth century have exceeded the simplistic standards such as loyalty to a king.I define my loyalty not to a ruler but to the flag that flies above him, hence, for example, I might not poison a benevolent king, but as a student open to the methods of warfare and subterfuge, I would poison a tyrant for the betterment of the country and its people.
A better structure for the contemporary era is being studied by MoralFoundations.org [http://faculty.virginia.edu/haidtlab/mft/index.php], which is a study that attempts to break down the fundamentals of the value systems we have today, and why there is such a divergence between groups, all of whom think their own value system is stronger good than those of others.
As for myself, I value the harm/care and fairness/reciprocity morals than I do the other three (ingroup/loyalty, authority/respect, purity/sanctity) but as a fringe non-conformist, I've found these latter values used against me by my own communities even though I am a basically good person. And the Bush era taught the US in certain terms that we cannot always trust the letter of the law to be right (e.g. when it directs torture against human beings, or willingly allows agencies or companies to invade the privacy of individuals).
The Bold Knights of Old rarely had to concern themselves with matters such as women's reproductive rights, the personhood of corporations, censorship of free speech, or (a current dilemma) the rights of artificially manufactured persons. And said knights typically did not do well in protecting the rights of fringe groups, whether religious schisms, alternative sexualities or practitioners of scientific observation that contested religious doctrine.
A good example of universal law, that is the rights and responsibilities we would endow to everyone were it possible, can be found in the Just War [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Convention].
Chaotic Good
A chaotic good character acts as his conscience directs him with little regard for what others expect of him. He makes his own way, but he?s kind and benevolent. He believes in goodness and right but has little use for laws and regulations. He hates it when people try to intimidate others and tell them what to do. He follows his own moral compass, which, although good, may not agree with that of society. Chaotic good is the best alignment you can be because it combines a good heart with a free spirit.
Fits me really well.
A chaotic good character acts as his conscience directs him with little regard for what others expect of him. He makes his own way, but he?s kind and benevolent. He believes in goodness and right but has little use for laws and regulations. He hates it when people try to intimidate others and tell them what to do. He follows his own moral compass, which, although good, may not agree with that of society. Chaotic good is the best alignment you can be because it combines a good heart with a free spirit.
Fits me really well.
Apparently I'm chaotic evil, just for my ruthlessness when it comes to money ( If you owe me a penny, I will get it), and dislike of the pathetic excuse we have for a law enforcement and government. Being indifferent towards my family entirely doesn't help either, but dick with my friends and you will suffer.
I think this alignment thing is too black or white with poor attempts at filling in the grey area in the middle in my opinion.
I think this alignment thing is too black or white with poor attempts at filling in the grey area in the middle in my opinion.
Neutral Good (with chaotic elements).
Admittedly though in alignement terms my clashes have always been on a matter of 'law vs chaotic', with both parties technically having the moral high ground (good) just with one having a superiority complex (law) and the other being more revolutionary (chaotic).
Admittedly though in alignement terms my clashes have always been on a matter of 'law vs chaotic', with both parties technically having the moral high ground (good) just with one having a superiority complex (law) and the other being more revolutionary (chaotic).
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