I would argue that love is also a condition, and that true love is extremely rare.Snowy Rainbow said:Stockholm syndrome is not only extremely rare, it certainly does not qualify as love. It is a condition.dogstile said:Stockholm syndrome?Snowy Rainbow said:Because day time soap drama on television is more reliable a source of reality than comics?TheDarkEricDraven said:Not because of, thats just an example. Another would be Luke and Laura Spencer from General Hospital.Snowy Rainbow said:You're suggesting the forceful act of degrading another human being to the level of object to be used for self-gratification against all their will and right, disregarding all the causal immediate pain and intense suffering to follow, can result in love because you read it in a comic?TheDarkEricDraven said:I beleve that rape can result in love. Not near usual, but some of the time. Like in Watchmen.
I hope to god you never have to learn how wrong you are.
Seriously, if you consider the greatest possible harm one can do to another to be capable of producing love in some instances... well, we're done here. For good.
Its not natural or right at all, but he'd be right.
I have noticed that a lot of people on this thread seem to hold the opinion that genocide is the answer to the worlds problems. All I ask you or anyone else with this opinion to think about is whether you would be happy to be among the ones killed for the good of humanity.Katnap_Devikat said:I hold very strongly to opinions that Genocide is the answer to alot of the world's issues, but at the same time i'm extermly tolerant of pretty much anything.
Except People that rape children, seriously fuck them sideways with a soldering iron.
Oh i also prefer the privatisation of the military as opposed to a government run one, but thats just because i know a couple of contractors.
I'm a straight atheist male who lives in a completely different country and I agree with you on all of those, so I wouldn't say they are controversial so much as logical. Although we also have a huge problem with illegal immigrants here.BabyRaptor said:I have several. Then again, I'm a Liberal, Pagan, Bisexual female living in the bible belt.
1) The US is NOT a christian nation. It's right there (several times) in the Constitution. People refusing to believe this does not make it false. No religion, or it's beliefs, should be taught in schools. No religion or it's beliefs should be allowed to dictate law. No religion should have carte blanche to to shit talk and demonize any other religion (or atheists.)
2) Illegal aliens should be rounded up and shipped back to where they came from, and border security needs to beefed to the max. I lived in Sanctuary City (AKA Houston, Texas) most of my life...I've seen what these people do. The "they just come here for a better life" story people use to pull heart strings is a total crock. Also, while we're at it, get rid of citizenship upon birth. At least one parent MUST be a citizen.
3) Free speech needs relooked. I understand the importance of the law, don't get me wrong. But when you have Faux Noise brainwashing a good chunk of the country like it does and hiding from any and all punishment behind the First Amendment, or Westboro Baptist being completely immune from punishment for the harm they cause people...No. There needs to be a way for other citizens to hold these people, and any others who would abuse the power, accountable.
4) Stop thinking your beliefs trump my rights. I should be able to marry any consenting adult I want. And the only other people who should have any weight in a decision over my body are the guy involved and my doctor.
5) Tax churches. They long ago stopped adhering to the "No political preaching" rule. And on that note, NO TAX DOLLARS for "faith based initiatives." If you can piss and moan about your tax dollars going to my healthcare, I should be able to deny you mine for your religious shit.
Think that's plenty enough to have me several quotes of flaming when I log in next.
Chicken. This is a place for controversial opinions, if someone gets pissed it's their own fault. So speak your mind.ThePirateMan said:I thinkreligionsIslam and Christianity should fuck right off the world. Without any religious people being hurt, except for maybe the Pope, islamists and whatever other people use religion for power and/or harm. I see no reason for why people believe in any of this mumbo jumbo other than greed (the different variants of heaven), it being hammered into their minds throughout their life (any religion and society ever) and the threat of harm (the different punishments of religions, such as hell.)
I sadly won't mention the second opinion of mine because I believe that it would be too controversial, even for this place.
Dunno I think violence and war is part of our animal instinct. More then anything else it caused us to evolve. The moment when ape became men was not when he killed game with a stone, but when he killed he brethern with one.Davey Woo said:The only "out-there" theory type thing I have is my opinion on our existance, which probably wouldn't offend anyone, some people are just likely to strongly disagree, and I'm fine with that.
Basically I believe that humanity as a whole would benefit greatly by going back to a more instinctive, animal-like lifestyle. No more money, no more cars, no more houses, no more intelligence, just basic animalistic thought processes to ensure survival.
So instead of thinking "Oh I'm hungry, I wonder what I could possibly cook myself that will taste yummy and fill me up." We would think, "Hungry, find food, eat food."
I think that this way we'd resolve many things like world conflict, famine etc because we'd have no reason to fight any more (other than territorial conflict) and anywhere that there wasn't food we'd instinctively stay away from. It would also help to make humans as a whole stronger, because only the stronger people would survive this way of life, and would produce strong offspring. (Survival of the fittest etc)
Feel free to pick at this any way you will, I'm interested to hear other peoples opinions on my little idea.
When I said there would be less conflict, I meant invasion of countries, racial/religious conflict, terrorism etc. Your point is also really interesting, we became men when we realised we could kill others of our species for reasons other than survival.rutger5000 said:Dunno I think violence and war is part of our animal instinct. More then anything else it caused us to evolve. The moment when ape became men was not when he killed game with a stone, but when he killed he brethern with one.
Other then that there are plenty of animals that do strave to death. That will also happen to us. But yes maybe it would be better in the long run. That is the only way we can prevent our self-destruction.