Fuck the renaissance. Ancient Greece was on the verge of an industrial revolution and the celts had mapped the stars, almost all was lost because of the roman empire, especially when the Pope took over and thousands of "pagan" writings were burned, like all the books in the library of Alexandria. But ironically anything we know about the celts and Druids was saved thanks to Irish monksDango said:Galileo's studies never would have occurred without support from the Pope and other officials within the church.Death_Korps_Kommissar said:I agree on points 1 and 3.Dango said:Science has not, and never will, rule out the exist of a higher power.
Despite not being religious, I believe religion is one of the most beneficial parts of humanity, and it is what has caused us to progress for thousands of years.
Killing someone is never justified, with the exception of having no other alternative to saving another's life.
How ever with 2 you are so very wrong. We progressed as a species because we were curios, because we had a desire to see how things worked.
Religion says it's magic so deal with it. Saying god done it gets us to the arse end of no-where and can even prevent our progress. Go ask Galileo.
Religion is what funded and provided nearly all advances in society, art, and science during the Renaissance and Medieval periods.
I never understood where this whole, a doctor and garbage man get paid the same thing came from. It's utter bullshit. Though a rubish mannis far more important than some people think.FarleShadow said:I politely disagree, I always thought that the first generation of ACTUAL communists start out with the best intentions (Tyrants who only use Communism as a start-point for power don't count), its the people themselves that pervert the ideal. And their sub-leaders. Which shouldn't technically exist in a communist country.Ikaruga33 said:The problem with communism is that the guy who organised the whole thing and is the communist countrys leader becomes a raging douche interested only in MOAR POWER and kills ppl to get it
That said, I don't think communism is possible beyond the small scale groups, because all it takes is one guy going "Hold on, I trained for 7 years to be a doctor, yet this garbage guy is paid the same? WTF" and then it collapses onto itself.
Freedom of speech is never over-rated.Arcane Azmadi said:Ooh, dangerous ground...
I believe freedom of speech is overrated, because way too many people abuse it.
I believe the American Second Amendment is outright absurd and the rabid gun nuts who defend it are paranoid, violent lunatics.
I believe that people who blatantly (i.e no possibility of innocence) commmit truly monstrous, cruel and evil crimes should be reclassified as "monsters" rather than humans and "destroyed"- no trial, no execution, just dragged out back, shot and the cadaver burned.
I believe smoking should be illegal.
I believe law should incorporate a "common sense clause" which allows judges to overrule procedure and precendent when the result would otherwise be fucking retarded (e.g a BLATANTLY obvious murderer found not guilty because of a minor police procedural issue which renders a piece of critical evidence invalid).
Conflagulations (obscure ref to the left), you have the exact same opinion on humanity as I do!Cheesus333 said:If every human being died, it would only be a good thing. I include myself in that.
Please contest this opinion, as I would love to change it.
You can "prove" the existence of a god of some description quite simply.Engarde said:And no amount of science can ever rule out the possibility of a higher power. What prevents me from believing he/she/it 'created this world with this structures and rules science studies?'
I'll see your "Daddy issues" and raise the boatload of your "mommy issues".Zaik said:I think men are mentally, physically, and any other comparison you can think up, superior to women.
At least, I think "westernized" men are superior to "westernized' women. I can't speak on cultures outside of that. I'm not so silly as to say something crazy like the worst man is better at everything than the best woman, but given similar status in comparison to others of their gender, the male will win out every single time. I even think that women statistically living longer is brought out by an artificially shortened lifespan for men due to what they're forced to do and put up with as they live, not some sort of actual genetic advantage women have.
Basically, your "westernized" woman is a self destructive mess of daddy issues, personality disorders, and insecurities that is overall babied and coddled for her entire life. She uses sex as a means to live because she has nothing else to support her. Men who behave as "normal" women do are labeled mentally incompetent, perverts, rapists, and/or racists.
The one weakness that men have(and the only salvation for women) is the excessive sex drive that actively affects their judgement to the point they're willing to be subjugated by that which they should be ruling. I guaran-damn-tee that if men worldwide suddenly lost their sex drive 100% completely, and sex only served as reproduction for men, within 50 years women would be handled as cattle, and men would take on sons as desired, or perhaps in times of lowered population people would be paid to impregnate women in order to continue the species.
Well, considering how communism is about everyone being equal, so, logically, everyone's time is equally valuable, so everyone is paid the same regardless of their occupation.Death_Korps_Kommissar said:I never understood where this whole, a doctor and garbage man get paid the same thing came from. It's utter bullshit. Though a rubish mannis far more important than some people think.FarleShadow said:That said, I don't think communism is possible beyond the small scale groups, because all it takes is one guy going "Hold on, I trained for 7 years to be a doctor, yet this garbage guy is paid the same? WTF" and then it collapses onto itself.
And so it begins. You know you're probably the first person to post just to disagree with someone and offer exactly nothing to the thread in general, right?michiehoward said:I'll see your "Daddy issues" and raise the boatload of your "mommy issues".Zaik said:I think men are mentally, physically, and any other comparison you can think up, superior to women.
At least, I think "westernized" men are superior to "westernized' women. I can't speak on cultures outside of that. I'm not so silly as to say something crazy like the worst man is better at everything than the best woman, but given similar status in comparison to others of their gender, the male will win out every single time. I even think that women statistically living longer is brought out by an artificially shortened lifespan for men due to what they're forced to do and put up with as they live, not some sort of actual genetic advantage women have.
Basically, your "westernized" woman is a self destructive mess of daddy issues, personality disorders, and insecurities that is overall babied and coddled for her entire life. She uses sex as a means to live because she has nothing else to support her. Men who behave as "normal" women do are labeled mentally incompetent, perverts, rapists, and/or racists.
The one weakness that men have(and the only salvation for women) is the excessive sex drive that actively affects their judgement to the point they're willing to be subjugated by that which they should be ruling. I guaran-damn-tee that if men worldwide suddenly lost their sex drive 100% completely, and sex only served as reproduction for men, within 50 years women would be handled as cattle, and men would take on sons as desired, or perhaps in times of lowered population people would be paid to impregnate women in order to continue the species.
Well I guess that would depend entirely if you have opinions or delusions./kiddingbader0 said:so basically everyones controversial opinion is just hating on religion or hating on other people for not having the same beliefs as them...cool
Well there is the sex drive and the complete inability to express any emotions for fear of catching the "gay". For every one girl that kills herself, 4 men kill themselfs. So women are a lot more emotionally stable then men. You are an extremely sexist person sir, to say that women are infirior is complaint wrong. Men are only stronger at birth, men are far less evolved and still strive for alpha male dominance and can be complete emotional wreaks ecause of their insane sex drive and over hype masculinity.Zaik said:I think men are mentally, physically, and any other comparison you can think up, superior to women.
At least, I think "westernized" men are superior to "westernized' women. I can't speak on cultures outside of that. I'm not so silly as to say something crazy like the worst man is better at everything than the best woman, but given similar status in comparison to others of their gender, the male will win out every single time. I even think that women statistically living longer is brought out by an artificially shortened lifespan for men due to what they're forced to do and put up with as they live, not some sort of actual genetic advantage women have.
Basically, your "westernized" woman is a self destructive mess of daddy issues, personality disorders, and insecurities that is overall babied and coddled for her entire life. She uses sex as a means to live because she has nothing else to support her. Men who behave as "normal" women do are labeled mentally incompetent, perverts, rapists, and/or racists.
The one weakness that men have(and the only salvation for women) is the excessive sex drive that actively affects their judgement to the point they're willing to be subjugated by that which they should be ruling. I guaran-damn-tee that if men worldwide suddenly lost their sex drive 100% completely, and sex only served as reproduction for men, within 50 years women would be handled as cattle, and men would take on sons as desired, or perhaps in times of lowered population people would be paid to impregnate women in order to continue the species.
Agree completely, more people died in the name of god than Mr. Hitler.ThePirateMan said:I thinkreligionsIslam and Christianity should fuck right off the world. Without any religious people being hurt, except for maybe the Pope, islamists and whatever other people use religion for power and/or harm. I see no reason for why people believe in any of this mumbo jumbo other than greed (the different variants of heaven), it being hammered into their minds throughout their life (any religion and society ever) and the threat of harm (the different punishments of religions, such as hell.)
I sadly won't mention the second opinion of mine because I believe that it would be too controversial, even for this place.
You can repeat your argument about causes infinitely. You must either accept an infinite regress of causes, or arbitrarily declare something the first cause. There's no reason we shouldn't just accept the Big Bang as the first cause if we're going to arbitrarily accept something anyway, so you need a stronger argument.Ninjat_126 said:You can "prove" the existence of a god of some description quite simply.
1. So, how did the universe begin?
2. The Big Bang? Cool... So what caused that.
3. Repeat until opponent gives up.
This doesn't prove that the Bible is correct, but for the universe as we understand it to exist it must have been created by a force outside of the universe. This could be a higher power or just a huge lump of dark matter or something similar.
Also, I believe in some form of higher power because the idea of everything in the world evolving randomly and somehow still turning out the way it is is kind of bullshit. It's like trying to walk through a wall. It's possible, but so hugely improbable that you'd probably never see it happen.
No, I posted my "controversial opinions" last page. I do apologize if your post, at least to me lacked an actual opinion. I mean why type all that out, when in about 15 seconds you could have wrote. I hate women.Zaik said:And so it begins. You know you're probably the first person to post just to disagree with someone and offer exactly nothing to the thread in general, right?michiehoward said:I'll see your "Daddy issues" and raise the boatload of your "mommy issues".Zaik said:I think men are mentally, physically, and any other comparison you can think up, superior to women.
At least, I think "westernized" men are superior to "westernized' women. I can't speak on cultures outside of that. I'm not so silly as to say something crazy like the worst man is better at everything than the best woman, but given similar status in comparison to others of their gender, the male will win out every single time. I even think that women statistically living longer is brought out by an artificially shortened lifespan for men due to what they're forced to do and put up with as they live, not some sort of actual genetic advantage women have.
Basically, your "westernized" woman is a self destructive mess of daddy issues, personality disorders, and insecurities that is overall babied and coddled for her entire life. She uses sex as a means to live because she has nothing else to support her. Men who behave as "normal" women do are labeled mentally incompetent, perverts, rapists, and/or racists.
The one weakness that men have(and the only salvation for women) is the excessive sex drive that actively affects their judgement to the point they're willing to be subjugated by that which they should be ruling. I guaran-damn-tee that if men worldwide suddenly lost their sex drive 100% completely, and sex only served as reproduction for men, within 50 years women would be handled as cattle, and men would take on sons as desired, or perhaps in times of lowered population people would be paid to impregnate women in order to continue the species.