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Engarde

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This is going to sound crazy. No problem with spiritual beliefs in any form; any problems blamed on them can likely be blamed on the offenders, who would commit whichever atrocious acts under a different name. I think I may have a problem with organized religion however.

Goddamn furries are silly and should feel bad for needing to put a label on themselves and identify themselves as a target for liking some animal stuff. Grow up and don't prance around with stupid labels for little reason. I don't mind birds of a feather gathering to discuss something, but at what point do fans of a style become a problem? When they remind me about it every five minutes.

And no amount of science can ever rule out the possibility of a higher power. What prevents me from believing he/she/it 'created this world with this structures and rules science studies?'
 
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Dango said:
Death_Korps_Kommissar said:
Dango said:
Science has not, and never will, rule out the exist of a higher power.

Despite not being religious, I believe religion is one of the most beneficial parts of humanity, and it is what has caused us to progress for thousands of years.

Killing someone is never justified, with the exception of having no other alternative to saving another's life.
I agree on points 1 and 3.
How ever with 2 you are so very wrong. We progressed as a species because we were curios, because we had a desire to see how things worked.
Religion says it's magic so deal with it. Saying god done it gets us to the arse end of no-where and can even prevent our progress. Go ask Galileo.
Galileo's studies never would have occurred without support from the Pope and other officials within the church.

Religion is what funded and provided nearly all advances in society, art, and science during the Renaissance and Medieval periods.
Fuck the renaissance. Ancient Greece was on the verge of an industrial revolution and the celts had mapped the stars, almost all was lost because of the roman empire, especially when the Pope took over and thousands of "pagan" writings were burned, like all the books in the library of Alexandria. But ironically anything we know about the celts and Druids was saved thanks to Irish monks :p
But then of course, we should never have been in the situation in the first place.

Tl;DR the Renaissance was just us rediscovering this the Greeks discovered 1500 years before hand.
 

T8B95

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Yay! Let's get started.

Religion
My view on religion

Read any of my posts on a religious topic on this site, and you get the picture. I don't hate religious people, but I think that it should be law to keep those beliefs to yourself, and not shove them down my throat. Christianity is the worst religion.

JFK

I don't think that there is any way that Oswald was the only person who was involved in the JFK plot. You can give me your "Magic Bullet" bullshit all damn day, that doesn't make it true. This one seems to be even more controversial than the first one.

There are more, but those are the two best.
 
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FarleShadow said:
Ikaruga33 said:
The problem with communism is that the guy who organised the whole thing and is the communist countrys leader becomes a raging douche interested only in MOAR POWER and kills ppl to get it
I politely disagree, I always thought that the first generation of ACTUAL communists start out with the best intentions (Tyrants who only use Communism as a start-point for power don't count), its the people themselves that pervert the ideal. And their sub-leaders. Which shouldn't technically exist in a communist country.

That said, I don't think communism is possible beyond the small scale groups, because all it takes is one guy going "Hold on, I trained for 7 years to be a doctor, yet this garbage guy is paid the same? WTF" and then it collapses onto itself.
I never understood where this whole, a doctor and garbage man get paid the same thing came from. It's utter bullshit. Though a rubish mannis far more important than some people think.


Arcane Azmadi said:
Ooh, dangerous ground...

I believe freedom of speech is overrated, because way too many people abuse it.

I believe the American Second Amendment is outright absurd and the rabid gun nuts who defend it are paranoid, violent lunatics.

I believe that people who blatantly (i.e no possibility of innocence) commmit truly monstrous, cruel and evil crimes should be reclassified as "monsters" rather than humans and "destroyed"- no trial, no execution, just dragged out back, shot and the cadaver burned.

I believe smoking should be illegal.

I believe law should incorporate a "common sense clause" which allows judges to overrule procedure and precendent when the result would otherwise be fucking retarded (e.g a BLATANTLY obvious murderer found not guilty because of a minor police procedural issue which renders a piece of critical evidence invalid).
Freedom of speech is never over-rated.

I'm a pacifist, democratic socialist who has never touched a gun in his life. No wait I cocked a fifty cal at an army demonstration. Font generalise, it's bold.

Making something illegal doesn't stop people from doing it. Look up prohibition in America, that's why you never want to ban smoking.
 

michiehoward

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1. Abortion is not birth control.

2. Organized religion is crap. I am not a member Protestant church, but I am a Christian, I have actually started to ponder what to call myself instead of Christian since every crazy ass militant atheist tries to connect me to the likes of Westboro Baptist assholes or the likes of Harold Camping or any crazy fundamentalist. So I think I'll call myself a Believer.

3. I won't post my number 3, it is to controversial for the Escapist. I don't feel like death threats in my message box.

4. "Truthers" do not add to the "collective discussion".

5. The means do not justify the ends.
 

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On the Escapist? Apparently believing in any kind of religion makes you a crazy loon and we should all worship science as our new lord and savior. I mean I have seen discussion where I swear people must get off on saying how atheistic they are and arguing over it. I really don't know why it is that plenty of major scientist can be religious and can even go into science to better understand their religion but the minute religion gets mentioned here people instantly assumed you're a backwater idiot who believes in crazy things. What makes it even more ironic is that science is essentially the same thing as a religion but with better PR.
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Other then that, nothing that I can really say outside of political opinion is controversial. I'm not really that interesting of a person.
 

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Cheesus333 said:
If every human being died, it would only be a good thing. I include myself in that.

Please contest this opinion, as I would love to change it.
Conflagulations (obscure ref to the left), you have the exact same opinion on humanity as I do!
 

napmil

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Right-wing, capitalistic government doesn't work (looking at you America). Same goes for conservatism, which goes hand-in-hand with right-wing politics. Socialistic welfare is pretty much the only thing that works, if you don't believe me look up Sweden, Denmark and Norway.

Religion was fine, a few hundred years ago. We needed it to explain things we didn't understand, but since we these days DO understand enough, it's outdated and only holding us back.

People who have been dead for a few seconds and then brought back to life, claiming to have been embraced by a white light and a feeling of warmth, and assume it was God (or what have you) are stupid and should ask the doctor about what they saw/felt and he/she will give you the answer: "it's the synapses", followed shortly by a back-handed slap for being a moron.

These aren't very controversial beliefs in Sweden, of course, but I imagine they can be elsewhere.

Something that may be considered something a bit more controversial though:
Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all sexistic and hierarchical, but amongst those islam is clearly the worst. Christianity is a close second.

I don't know enough about the other world religions to judge them properly, but I imagine they're pretty much the same.
 

Ninjat_126

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Engarde said:
And no amount of science can ever rule out the possibility of a higher power. What prevents me from believing he/she/it 'created this world with this structures and rules science studies?'
You can "prove" the existence of a god of some description quite simply.

1. So, how did the universe begin?
2. The Big Bang? Cool... So what caused that.
3. Repeat until opponent gives up.

This doesn't prove that the Bible is correct, but for the universe as we understand it to exist it must have been created by a force outside of the universe. This could be a higher power or just a huge lump of dark matter or something similar.

Also, I believe in some form of higher power because the idea of everything in the world evolving randomly and somehow still turning out the way it is is kind of bullshit. It's like trying to walk through a wall. It's possible, but so hugely improbable that you'd probably never see it happen.
 

Zaik

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I think men are mentally, physically, and any other comparison you can think up, superior to women.

At least, I think "westernized" men are superior to "westernized' women. I can't speak on cultures outside of that. I'm not so silly as to say something crazy like the worst man is better at everything than the best woman, but given similar status in comparison to others of their gender, the male will win out every single time. I even think that women statistically living longer is brought out by an artificially shortened lifespan for men due to what they're forced to do and put up with as they live, not some sort of actual genetic advantage women have.

Basically, your "westernized" woman is a self destructive mess of daddy issues, personality disorders, and insecurities that is overall babied and coddled for her entire life. She uses sex as a means to live because she has nothing else to support her. Men who behave as "normal" women do are labeled mentally incompetent, perverts, rapists, and/or racists.

The one weakness that men have(and the only salvation for women) is the excessive sex drive that actively affects their judgement to the point they're willing to be subjugated by that which they should be ruling. I guaran-damn-tee that if men worldwide suddenly lost their sex drive 100% completely, and sex only served as reproduction for men, within 50 years women would be handled as cattle, and men would take on sons as desired, or perhaps in times of lowered population people would be paid to impregnate women in order to continue the species.
 

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Zaik said:
I think men are mentally, physically, and any other comparison you can think up, superior to women.

At least, I think "westernized" men are superior to "westernized' women. I can't speak on cultures outside of that. I'm not so silly as to say something crazy like the worst man is better at everything than the best woman, but given similar status in comparison to others of their gender, the male will win out every single time. I even think that women statistically living longer is brought out by an artificially shortened lifespan for men due to what they're forced to do and put up with as they live, not some sort of actual genetic advantage women have.

Basically, your "westernized" woman is a self destructive mess of daddy issues, personality disorders, and insecurities that is overall babied and coddled for her entire life. She uses sex as a means to live because she has nothing else to support her. Men who behave as "normal" women do are labeled mentally incompetent, perverts, rapists, and/or racists.

The one weakness that men have(and the only salvation for women) is the excessive sex drive that actively affects their judgement to the point they're willing to be subjugated by that which they should be ruling. I guaran-damn-tee that if men worldwide suddenly lost their sex drive 100% completely, and sex only served as reproduction for men, within 50 years women would be handled as cattle, and men would take on sons as desired, or perhaps in times of lowered population people would be paid to impregnate women in order to continue the species.
I'll see your "Daddy issues" and raise the boatload of your "mommy issues".
 

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Death_Korps_Kommissar said:
FarleShadow said:
That said, I don't think communism is possible beyond the small scale groups, because all it takes is one guy going "Hold on, I trained for 7 years to be a doctor, yet this garbage guy is paid the same? WTF" and then it collapses onto itself.
I never understood where this whole, a doctor and garbage man get paid the same thing came from. It's utter bullshit. Though a rubish mannis far more important than some people think.
Well, considering how communism is about everyone being equal, so, logically, everyone's time is equally valuable, so everyone is paid the same regardless of their occupation.

And while a 'rubish mannis' function is important, the employees can be ditch water drinkingly stupid, while a doctor needs abit more of a brain.
 

bader0

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so basically everyones controversial opinion is just hating on religion or hating on other people for not having the same beliefs as them...cool
 

Zaik

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michiehoward said:
Zaik said:
I think men are mentally, physically, and any other comparison you can think up, superior to women.

At least, I think "westernized" men are superior to "westernized' women. I can't speak on cultures outside of that. I'm not so silly as to say something crazy like the worst man is better at everything than the best woman, but given similar status in comparison to others of their gender, the male will win out every single time. I even think that women statistically living longer is brought out by an artificially shortened lifespan for men due to what they're forced to do and put up with as they live, not some sort of actual genetic advantage women have.

Basically, your "westernized" woman is a self destructive mess of daddy issues, personality disorders, and insecurities that is overall babied and coddled for her entire life. She uses sex as a means to live because she has nothing else to support her. Men who behave as "normal" women do are labeled mentally incompetent, perverts, rapists, and/or racists.

The one weakness that men have(and the only salvation for women) is the excessive sex drive that actively affects their judgement to the point they're willing to be subjugated by that which they should be ruling. I guaran-damn-tee that if men worldwide suddenly lost their sex drive 100% completely, and sex only served as reproduction for men, within 50 years women would be handled as cattle, and men would take on sons as desired, or perhaps in times of lowered population people would be paid to impregnate women in order to continue the species.
I'll see your "Daddy issues" and raise the boatload of your "mommy issues".
And so it begins. You know you're probably the first person to post just to disagree with someone and offer exactly nothing to the thread in general, right?
 

michiehoward

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bader0 said:
so basically everyones controversial opinion is just hating on religion or hating on other people for not having the same beliefs as them...cool
Well I guess that would depend entirely if you have opinions or delusions./kidding
 
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Zaik said:
I think men are mentally, physically, and any other comparison you can think up, superior to women.

At least, I think "westernized" men are superior to "westernized' women. I can't speak on cultures outside of that. I'm not so silly as to say something crazy like the worst man is better at everything than the best woman, but given similar status in comparison to others of their gender, the male will win out every single time. I even think that women statistically living longer is brought out by an artificially shortened lifespan for men due to what they're forced to do and put up with as they live, not some sort of actual genetic advantage women have.

Basically, your "westernized" woman is a self destructive mess of daddy issues, personality disorders, and insecurities that is overall babied and coddled for her entire life. She uses sex as a means to live because she has nothing else to support her. Men who behave as "normal" women do are labeled mentally incompetent, perverts, rapists, and/or racists.

The one weakness that men have(and the only salvation for women) is the excessive sex drive that actively affects their judgement to the point they're willing to be subjugated by that which they should be ruling. I guaran-damn-tee that if men worldwide suddenly lost their sex drive 100% completely, and sex only served as reproduction for men, within 50 years women would be handled as cattle, and men would take on sons as desired, or perhaps in times of lowered population people would be paid to impregnate women in order to continue the species.
Well there is the sex drive and the complete inability to express any emotions for fear of catching the "gay". For every one girl that kills herself, 4 men kill themselfs. So women are a lot more emotionally stable then men. You are an extremely sexist person sir, to say that women are infirior is complaint wrong. Men are only stronger at birth, men are far less evolved and still strive for alpha male dominance and can be complete emotional wreaks ecause of their insane sex drive and over hype masculinity.
 

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ThePirateMan said:
I think religionsIslam and Christianity should fuck right off the world. Without any religious people being hurt, except for maybe the Pope, islamists and whatever other people use religion for power and/or harm. I see no reason for why people believe in any of this mumbo jumbo other than greed (the different variants of heaven), it being hammered into their minds throughout their life (any religion and society ever) and the threat of harm (the different punishments of religions, such as hell.)
I sadly won't mention the second opinion of mine because I believe that it would be too controversial, even for this place.
Agree completely, more people died in the name of god than Mr. Hitler.
 

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Ninjat_126 said:
You can "prove" the existence of a god of some description quite simply.

1. So, how did the universe begin?
2. The Big Bang? Cool... So what caused that.
3. Repeat until opponent gives up.

This doesn't prove that the Bible is correct, but for the universe as we understand it to exist it must have been created by a force outside of the universe. This could be a higher power or just a huge lump of dark matter or something similar.

Also, I believe in some form of higher power because the idea of everything in the world evolving randomly and somehow still turning out the way it is is kind of bullshit. It's like trying to walk through a wall. It's possible, but so hugely improbable that you'd probably never see it happen.
You can repeat your argument about causes infinitely. You must either accept an infinite regress of causes, or arbitrarily declare something the first cause. There's no reason we shouldn't just accept the Big Bang as the first cause if we're going to arbitrarily accept something anyway, so you need a stronger argument.

As to the second point, it applies only if you feel we're special. How the universe turned out specifically is as meaningless as the positions of grains of sand on a beach; it needs no explanation because it's not exceptional in any way.
 

michiehoward

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Zaik said:
michiehoward said:
Zaik said:
I think men are mentally, physically, and any other comparison you can think up, superior to women.

At least, I think "westernized" men are superior to "westernized' women. I can't speak on cultures outside of that. I'm not so silly as to say something crazy like the worst man is better at everything than the best woman, but given similar status in comparison to others of their gender, the male will win out every single time. I even think that women statistically living longer is brought out by an artificially shortened lifespan for men due to what they're forced to do and put up with as they live, not some sort of actual genetic advantage women have.

Basically, your "westernized" woman is a self destructive mess of daddy issues, personality disorders, and insecurities that is overall babied and coddled for her entire life. She uses sex as a means to live because she has nothing else to support her. Men who behave as "normal" women do are labeled mentally incompetent, perverts, rapists, and/or racists.

The one weakness that men have(and the only salvation for women) is the excessive sex drive that actively affects their judgement to the point they're willing to be subjugated by that which they should be ruling. I guaran-damn-tee that if men worldwide suddenly lost their sex drive 100% completely, and sex only served as reproduction for men, within 50 years women would be handled as cattle, and men would take on sons as desired, or perhaps in times of lowered population people would be paid to impregnate women in order to continue the species.
I'll see your "Daddy issues" and raise the boatload of your "mommy issues".
And so it begins. You know you're probably the first person to post just to disagree with someone and offer exactly nothing to the thread in general, right?
No, I posted my "controversial opinions" last page. I do apologize if your post, at least to me lacked an actual opinion. I mean why type all that out, when in about 15 seconds you could have wrote. I hate women.