Where do you think WW3 will start?
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Germany. Both the other World Wars started in and around there, and I'm guessing the third will start there too.
That's my point: The US did nothing until Germany declared war. They were perfectly all right sitting back and only defending their own borders. As we wittnessed many times over the years, the US has no problem with evil dictators, so long as they get cutt of the profit. Recently, they did nothing against the many Arab dictators until the whole world started protesting them, and even then waited a while.
I'm not saying that the US is the embodiement of pure evil. I'm saying they're not the crusading heroes of freedom and democracy they want the world to think they are. They're people. Capable of evil, capable of corruption and malice. It is a place just like all other countries: inequalities, injustice and feuding run rampant.
I'm not saying that the US is the embodiement of pure evil. I'm saying they're not the crusading heroes of freedom and democracy they want the world to think they are. They're people. Capable of evil, capable of corruption and malice. It is a place just like all other countries: inequalities, injustice and feuding run rampant.
I'm gonna guess Between china and America once America goes bankrupt. Though what China doesnt realize (and most of the world for that matter) is that China needs America far more then America needs china, so it wouldnt help either country.
America Vs Russia, China, North Korea, Britain, Germany, France, Sweden, Switzerland... and the rest of the countries on earth...
because, if you keep poking the tiger then it WILL attackyou americans eventually.
poking the tiger with war games claiming that russia invades USA, making them want to, so china joins in, then we join in, then the rest of europe, then africa, then asia, then South america, then finally Canada)
because, if you keep poking the tiger then it WILL attack
poking the tiger with war games claiming that russia invades USA, making them want to, so china joins in, then we join in, then the rest of europe, then africa, then asia, then South america, then finally Canada)
This is a very good post. I don't mean to inflate your ego here, but you seem to have a very good understanding of current conflicts and their origins. My hat goes off to you, sir.RaNDM G said:
How would that be the number one candidate? Not only is the entire UN behind the action, but so is the Arab League.notimeforlulz said:
They declared war on Germany at the same time Germany declared war on them... Let's not forget America was still in the depression at this point, and no one thought of them as a super power in the way people viewed Britain.Pierce Graham said:
Of course they did nothing, we have learned that no matter what we do, people will claim we are being imperialistic and actively trying to over throw a government will only strengthen it, as they are now seen as an opposing force to "the Imperialistic West." Had America gotten involved in the Arab uprisings earlier, then a revolution started by the people would be portrayed negatively. Though in some cases, I admit we will turn a blind eye, preferring stability over freedom. But to say we sat back and did nothing because we supported the dictators is a falsehood.
Yes, our very existence pokes the tiger. Never mind what good will missions we send the military on (saving Pakistani's from flooding, sending carriers to disaster areas). Or the billions we give to help out struggling nations, like our plan for Egypt. Besides, China and Russia won't ever invade the U.S. Despite everything, we have very good relations with each other. If shit hits the fan, you can bet the leaders will be on the phone trying to fix it before the news even hears of itfragmaster09 said:
pretty lame excuse, considered supporting really, really evil people like batista, pinochet, diem and hussein is allright as long as they play ball. but a democraticly elected allende, or a doctor mosaddegh, who has this crazy ideas that the iranian people should govern themselves, and that the wealth of the country should benefit the citizens and no foreign nations (absurd ideas, i know) get disposed of and replaced by axecrazy religious fanatics and dictators by the totally altruistic and freedomloving u.s. of a.Sean951 said:
LIES, china provides cheap labour for America, without it, America's financial collape would be sped up tenfoldemeraldrafael said:
I can't see any reason for our current situation to escalate into a third world war in the near future. Sino-Russian relations are too good, Sino-American relations are non-hostile and even Russo-American relations have improved drastically with Obama and Medvedev signing the New START agreement. Russia invaded Georgia, China invaded Tibet and the US invaded both Afghanistan and Iraq without things escalating. China could probably invade Taiwan and Russia could most likely invade Belarus without too much hassle from anyone else. I don't think either of them will, but I'm sure they can. So I don't think we need to worry about a ww3 for another couple of decades.
Not really. America is perfectly capable of doing work for itself. the problem that stops (yet also helps) America is Unions and their power. They gained way back when in the 1800s once steel got huge,a nd its never really gone away. You get rid of a union, or at least make it more managble to contend with in the government, and America can get much more business back and wouldnt need China. Sure, shits going ot be expensive, but you're making a larger salary, and eventually you'll decrease the relevance of China and other foreign trade partners, shirnking the debt and making prices drop and giving more money to spend, ending in a surplus before it sinks back again to debt (which is how a free market works, constant ups and downs, cause if it was always up, something is going very wrong and that bubble is going to hurt when it pops).fragmaster09 said:
China is actually more hurting itself. its bogging down the American market which has to mark up Chinese shit so American business can compete, but is hurting the national yuan (the Chinese currency), so much so that its inflation is hurting domestic market, and they're trying to raise its domestic value, which means raising trade prices (giving more incentive for America to drop cheap shitty chinese labor), meaning less trade partners cause the world still hasnt fucking righted its ship (and dont say the EU is good, cuase that doesnt count since thats a Continent as a collective whole, and individually the countries arent doing too well) and hurting China, while America continues to innovate (<url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/111002-Detroit-Man-Discovers-Recipe-For-Stronger-Lighter-Steel>what with our new steel).
It won't.
Our international system is too interconnected to allow for a major war between the great powers anymore. A similar state was achieved during the belle epoque (before the First World War), except there you had a paranoid Germany surrounded by powerful colonial empires who shared fluctuating alliances with each other. That isn't the case now, and it never will be. We've learnt the lessons that the previous World Wars caused... finally, and after only 60,000,000 men, women and children brutally killed.
Our international system is too interconnected to allow for a major war between the great powers anymore. A similar state was achieved during the belle epoque (before the First World War), except there you had a paranoid Germany surrounded by powerful colonial empires who shared fluctuating alliances with each other. That isn't the case now, and it never will be. We've learnt the lessons that the previous World Wars caused... finally, and after only 60,000,000 men, women and children brutally killed.
or: since America has grown used to living off other's work, they would be slow to embrace this 'new' idea of going back to the 1800's-style work, by the time they accepted the reform, the country would have all but collapsed, and relied on the UN to get money, increasing their debts even furtheremeraldrafael said:
germany became Austria-Hungary's only European ally, that's why they ought in WW1, they were not paranoid, if they were, the Kaiser would have allied himself with the entirety of Europe other than Austrio-Hungarian empire... and our Empire was still strong back then, in fact, it collapsed BECAUSE of the 2 World Wars.MasterOfHisOwnDomain said: