Where Have All the Cheats Gone?
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I don't like achievements. I feel they take away the fun of the game. I want to do something cool that I think I made up, not because the game told me I should do that. I miss the days of cheat codes. It was great bringing in a tank on GTA. However I'm mainly a PC gamer now so there are still a few games there that I can still enter codes on.
Isn't there an add on for the Nintendo DS that allows you to use cheats in a game? Was was it called, Action Replay?
But yeah, I guess I kinda do miss old-school cheats. The last game I remember that allowed me to use some entertaining cheats was The Simpsons Hit and Run. Goddamn that game was fun.
But yeah, I guess I kinda do miss old-school cheats. The last game I remember that allowed me to use some entertaining cheats was The Simpsons Hit and Run. Goddamn that game was fun.
I've either refused to buy games full price or flat out refused to buy them due to their lack of cheats (or skins). Vanquish came to mind immediately. If I'd bought it brand new I'd be kicking myself to this very day.
Sorry but I remember when games were meant to be FUN!!!
Sorry but I remember when games were meant to be FUN!!!
I really can't help but read this article and question "Uh... what?".
As people have stated, games still have cheats in them, if they're really worried about the achievements they can always disable them when you activate cheats like GTAIV did. Achievements and cheat codes really have no correlation. Cheat codes began dying long before the 360 was released and I don't really remember the PS3 having a library of games with cheat codes for the time before they introduced trophies. It really boils down to what many people have said, there really is no need for them anymore. "Back in the day" when cheat codes were popular, the games were sometimes brutally difficult. Now, you can struggle to find a challenge on the hardest difficulty of most games. Why would you need cheat codes for invincibility or 1 hit kills when you can put it on easy or very easy mode and essentially accomplish the same thing. Frankly I don't recall a slew of games for the ps2 era having cheat codes either.
Yes achievements have been detrimental to many parts of gaming, but this is definitely not one of them. That being said, I like achivements. When implemented correctly, they can accomplish more than cheats ever could by allowing you to play in a different way while still challenging the player. Many people point to The Orange Box as one of the best examples of this, and even HL2 and Portal have cheat codes. There is also no reason achievements and cheat codes can't co-exist.
As people have stated, games still have cheats in them, if they're really worried about the achievements they can always disable them when you activate cheats like GTAIV did. Achievements and cheat codes really have no correlation. Cheat codes began dying long before the 360 was released and I don't really remember the PS3 having a library of games with cheat codes for the time before they introduced trophies. It really boils down to what many people have said, there really is no need for them anymore. "Back in the day" when cheat codes were popular, the games were sometimes brutally difficult. Now, you can struggle to find a challenge on the hardest difficulty of most games. Why would you need cheat codes for invincibility or 1 hit kills when you can put it on easy or very easy mode and essentially accomplish the same thing. Frankly I don't recall a slew of games for the ps2 era having cheat codes either.
Yes achievements have been detrimental to many parts of gaming, but this is definitely not one of them. That being said, I like achivements. When implemented correctly, they can accomplish more than cheats ever could by allowing you to play in a different way while still challenging the player. Many people point to The Orange Box as one of the best examples of this, and even HL2 and Portal have cheat codes. There is also no reason achievements and cheat codes can't co-exist.
Aww I remember these time fondly... Quick ppl, what where ur favrite cheats or Easter eggs.
Mine would be:
up C down C right C left C A-start : the all levels code for sonic the hedgehog
Bervoliobulletholes : the 50 tails code in conker's bad fur day
And the tank code in GTA3
Mine would be:
up C down C right C left C A-start : the all levels code for sonic the hedgehog
Bervoliobulletholes : the 50 tails code in conker's bad fur day
And the tank code in GTA3
1) open console
2) Spawnitem 12345
3) ???
4) Not Cheating Profit?
Plenty of games still have cheats. Especially computer games. Console games have less "intentional" cheats, but most will have some kind of infinite XP bug, or other game breaking glitch.
2) Spawnitem 12345
3) ???
4) Not Cheating Profit?
Plenty of games still have cheats. Especially computer games. Console games have less "intentional" cheats, but most will have some kind of infinite XP bug, or other game breaking glitch.
after readng this article i realized that my hate for achievements was unearned and that actually they brought a lot of good too. i never "care" fr achievements, probably because i dont play achievement based platforms but i never cheat either. the only "cheating" i do is i mod the game, usually myself, but i dont remove the challenge in any way.
cheat era is over? well good. we have enough cheats in our lives that gaming certainly doesnt need any.
cheat era is over? well good. we have enough cheats in our lives that gaming certainly doesnt need any.
The best parts about cheat codes, back in the day: You had to know someone to know them. You need real life friends. People who know people. You had to read gamer magazines (with real paper, and no Ctrl+F) and actually remember the codes yourself. It was like freaking Goonies, except with infinite lives instead of One-Eyed Willy's treasure
These days, any Joe Blow can just google it.
These days, any Joe Blow can just google it.
Why do people miss cheats? Cheats existed back in the day because they provided an alternative to actually workong to beat the games, which were undeniably much harder back then. Games these days are more about providing an experience, so cheats don't really contribute anything.
Also, don't blame achievments. Achivements provide a nice little sense of satisfaction, which I would take over the ability to give myself unlimited ammo and noclipping any day.
Also, don't blame achievments. Achivements provide a nice little sense of satisfaction, which I would take over the ability to give myself unlimited ammo and noclipping any day.
I'd still use them for the Starcraft campaign if it'd unlock the videos.
I don't know if achievements really ruined cheating. I think it went more like:
-Games were too hard for the majority to beat without cheats
-Games got [much] easier so everyone could beat them
-Games were so easy to beat that achievements were added to artificially enhance difficulty
I don't know if achievements really ruined cheating. I think it went more like:
-Games were too hard for the majority to beat without cheats
-Games got [much] easier so everyone could beat them
-Games were so easy to beat that achievements were added to artificially enhance difficulty
If I actually end up working in the industry, I'll make sure to include a system where when a cheat code is activated you're given a separate set of achievements that can only be completed using the cheats 
Cheats active, cheat achievements. cheats inactive, regular achievements. Everyone is happy!
Cheats active, cheat achievements. cheats inactive, regular achievements. Everyone is happy!Every developer should add options for cheating in their game. Be it via the console or something else.
Take a look at StarCraft 2, not only did Blizzard add interesting achievements beyond completing a level. They also made sure that a console was available for everyone who wanted to cheat. And the best thing is that using a cheat in the console disabled achievements in a very nice way.
I enjoy cheating once I have beaten a game. And if the developers don't provide me with the option. Well, then I can always find a trainer at cheathappens.
If developers want to make sure that achievements continue to have any value at all. Then they should do as Blizzard did and make cheating even more accessible for single player modes.
As a last note. Cheating should only ever be done in single player, lan parties (no, not the competetive ones) or at other controlled environments.
P.S. Even games such as Dead Island should have an option to create more than one character. Specifically one for VAC enabled games, and one without it (oh and do try and change how it works, as people are constantly using money cheats and going online with those characters)
Take a look at StarCraft 2, not only did Blizzard add interesting achievements beyond completing a level. They also made sure that a console was available for everyone who wanted to cheat. And the best thing is that using a cheat in the console disabled achievements in a very nice way.
I enjoy cheating once I have beaten a game. And if the developers don't provide me with the option. Well, then I can always find a trainer at cheathappens.
If developers want to make sure that achievements continue to have any value at all. Then they should do as Blizzard did and make cheating even more accessible for single player modes.
As a last note. Cheating should only ever be done in single player, lan parties (no, not the competetive ones) or at other controlled environments.
P.S. Even games such as Dead Island should have an option to create more than one character. Specifically one for VAC enabled games, and one without it (oh and do try and change how it works, as people are constantly using money cheats and going online with those characters)
I remember my first 2 hours of San Andreas.
Went as fast as possible.
As high as possible.
In any possible direction space allowed.
Flew a car faster than a plane.
Flew a fucking Airliner into a city.
Yeah, cheats enriched gaming. I can't think of a logical reason they;d be gone... Who is it costing to have them!?
Went as fast as possible.
As high as possible.
In any possible direction space allowed.
Flew a car faster than a plane.
Flew a fucking Airliner into a city.
Yeah, cheats enriched gaming. I can't think of a logical reason they;d be gone... Who is it costing to have them!?