Where you want the next fallout setting?

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KenAri

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How about somewhere other than America?
Tokyo? Cyber-Steam-Punk Asian Biker babes sounds cool.

London? Cockney raiders is always a giggle.

Hong Kong would probably be very appropriate. Lets see what the Reds have to say about the whole 'Apocalypse' thing.
I hereby second London.

Seriously, Bethesda: Imagine a Fallout game set in the ruined seat of an ancient empire, the Big Ben still faithfully striking the hours (maintained by a small group of loyal ghouls)! Toxic mist rising from the Thames at night as a new Jack the Ripper stalks Whitechapel! Junkyards made from gigantic steam locomotives! Buckingham Palace inhabited by ghoulified Royals, guarded by roaming packs of their beloved pet Corgis which have gone feral and mutated into orange Yao Guai! Raiders wielding weaponry looted from the British Museum!

Number one healing item: Mirelurk and chips!
I'm up for London! Colourful image you painted! Be interesting to see Bethesda's spin on a Victorian setting (especially after Bloodborne breathed some life into it). Be fun going through the old war museums, finding 11th century melee weapons to customize.
 

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I think a Southern city would be fun to go through. Mainly because the architecture would be interesting to see aged up through the psudo-50s sci-fi lens. Granted, seeing the stereotypical southern attitude of the 1950s enhanced might be less fun.
Charleston, SC could be a neat location due to the dense central city combined and proximity to military bases and Fort Sumter. Wouldn't be a lot of underground tunnels or basements though.
 

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Lousianna and arizona would be nice. Focus more on the space/ zeta aspect of the game. I would love to see a survivor travel with his dog through a several different alien ships. Also a mechanic where your dog mutates into some alien ceeature that mutates as you level up would be cool.

Hawaii would be nice. A place that was relitively untouched but still suffered by being cut off from the rest of the country would be an interesting turn for the series.

And for all saying they should go somewere else, it wouldnt be fallout. Its a game that revolves heavily around american pre-war arrogance and its consiquences. I could see a game set in canada working as it was americanised pre-war, but that would be as far from home we could go and still call it fallout
 

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I already planned a European Fallout plot out so i would place it in the Netherlands.
Placed right between post-apocalyptic Napoleonic inspired France and the Holy Radioactive Empire as Cyborg Vikings
invade by sea only to held back by Victorian Englishmen as they all fight about the last operational nuclear silo left.
So, i would say Europe. I often wondered how it all went down there.
To those that say that 50 americana is the charm of the game, well you are right! Time might be though for
perhaps a spin-off somewhere else to refresh some of the magic of the series.
I would think a sort of post-WW2 atmosphere with depression and rebuilding would be in order, and lots of history referances
as the remnants of Europe piece together what made their ancient empires great.
Also, get Obsidian to do it. :D
 

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Fallout is incredibly hard to take out of America. After all it is at heart a very tongue in cheek dissection of Americana. Going elsewhere has certain risks and just doesn't carry over as well. Fallout is making fun of certain elements of American culture. That is harder to do in many other settings. Maybe a Fallout London you could get away with? But others? It either becomes just another SF shooter or they end up mocking other cultures. As an example I have seen Australia mentioned. Sounds good until you try and do something that isn't Mad Max. It's well trodden ground. And while a neat setting there really isn't a lot to mock there. Going elsewhere starts to also risk some unintended messaging. How does one do Fallout Mexico while still maintaining that level of self aware deprecation without crossing over the border into tactless, tasteless or insulting?

Within Fallout's North American world there are a few areas that would still work well.

Atlanta - If you are looking for a culturally distinct area of the US, the South is one that they have not plumbed much outsideof that one FO3 DLC. Atlanta would be a good choice for a distinct urban area with surrounding country and wasteland. A good spread in environments. Some truly workable locales such as the CDC or Stone Mountain. A very Blue vs Grey, Civil War and Confederacy feel to be exploited.

Dallas - Similar to Atlanta the DFW area offers a lot of possibilities, both from distinct Western culture, recognizable yet achievable urban areas and a lot of open space between them. The weird way Dallas and Fort Worth are so spread out with so much open space seperating clusters of tall buildings works well for the FO type of setting.

Orlando - Fallout The Happiest Place On Earth!!! or how to get instantly sued! Can you imagine using a post Apocalyptic Disney World setting? EPCOT as the future city ala Enclave or Institute that it was meant to be. The Magic Kingdom populated by twisted characters. Miles and miles of secret underground tunnels and complexes. etc. Yeah Disney would never ever go for it. But it would be so cool!

Los Angeles - I can't help but think that the Nick Valentine character presages a Fallout dip into Noire. Which would be well suited to Los Angeles art deco stylings and insanity. Plus we have yet to visit California in 3d.

Pacific Northwest - Seattle or Vancouver? Just some nice environmental and cultural possibilities. Hey maybe a Fallout Winter environment.

London or smaller UK location - The UK has enough close cultural ties to the US particularly in the mid 20th century that it can be pretty freely mocked without real cultural concern. A London type setting would allow some real distinct places and scenarios. Plus it could plumb the early years of the British Invasion, staying with the normal Fallout Musical History theme. Licensing the Beatles however would be necessary and likely cost prohibitive. Plus London suffers the same negatives that New York, Sf and Chicago do in terms of unreachable scale. A little too much there to selectively compress in scale while still maintaining the suspension of disbelief.

On the list of places that would likely never work or would be too close to what has already been done. (in my humble opinion)

New York, Chicago and San Francisco - Yeah they are all places we really want to see. But the shear scale of all three would grossly limit the game and setting and take away from the experience. We can dream of them. But I don't think they could ever do any of the three justice.

Detroit - Lets be honest how could anyone tell the before or after? Make Detroit the one place that gets safer and more civilized after the bombs drop? Yeah good plan.

Philadelphia - While a good environment it dances somewhere between FO3's Capital Area and FO4's Boston. What little distinctness from those has already been plumbed in FO3's The Pitt.
 

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Can I say none? At this point I'd prefer the franchise just quietly die off.
Fallout 4 hurt too much.

But gun to my head... Texas. I know they briefly touched on it in the ill fated Brotherhood of Steel game, but I think it could be fun. Maybe do like southern Texas and creep into Mexico a little, have some crazed people set up in the Alamo and what have you.
 

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I know nothing about American states, so I'll second Japan - nuclear powered mecha anyone? Or Australia, their wildlife is scary shit anyway without two heads, and you'd basically get Mad Max. Rad Max!

London would be interesting. I'd love a David Attenborough style character on one of the radio stations, talking about rad-wildlife.
 

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mmm, australia would be fun, with all sort of deadly creature, giant spiders... oh wait, isnt that modern pre-war australia ?


ok, Canada would be fun too. first, they could implement a season system, so that half of the year you have cold and snow that change the landscape. so now, you need armor, but also winter gear to survive the cold, but not all the time, just in winter. plus if you make water freeze when it's cold, it could radically change the way you travel or the way you are doing quest depending if you do it in winter or in summer. and mutated polar bear beats deathclaws...

it also would be interresting how the politics play in canada too. yes canada was annexed but only in january 2076 according to the fallout timeline. so right after the bombs, probably that a part of the survivors would have turn toward what's left of the USA, but another part would have try to rebuild canada. there's a chance of civil war just after the bombs there...


Florida should be something to look out for too.
 

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I'd say Louisiana, either New Orleans or Baton Rouge, with a move away from swing to Jazz in the musical style and a lot of constructed roadways. Maybe use the crafting system to allow/require the player to connect communities themselves using the resources to construct roads through toxic/ghoul infested bayou?

Mainly, I'd like to see something other than rolling hills and pastoral suburbs.
 

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UK. Preferably anywhere that has access to rural, urban, metropolitan, subway underground [flooded/non flooded], and maybe some junk cities like Megaton was.

Instead of Ghouls it would the inbred mutated descendants of the Royal family trying to spread neo-imperialism on whatever vicinity theyve taken over, maybe a few 3-4 dozens of them all over the area [like the Nemesis or a bounty system except with royal loot rewards]. Charging at you with mouths like mole rats, alabaster skin that cooks in the daylight, swinging broken bottles while screaming about having a go & swearing on their mums.

Instead of Super mutants there would be giant stout rugby hooligans who got tricked into drinking a weird drink that reacted horribly with the radiation.

I doubt there would be guns which would make them a rarity there, but im sure theyre will be plenty of bludgeons & cutlery alternately.
 

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Okay, so it probably wouldn't happen, but I would love to see a Fallout game set in Russia. I think the developers could get really creative with mutated wildlife, radiation filled locations, and produce probably some of the craziest weaponry and power armor the series would ever see.

I don't know about all of you, but I would love to fight off a swarm of ghouls atop Koshtan-Tau mountain while a violent snow storm blinded the world around me, forcing me to rely on the haunting green glow emitted by the ghouls to find me as they attack, en masse.
 

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If I remember correctly, the resource wars mainly took place around the Middle East, with Europe and Russia fighting over territory. What I'm not clear about is what happened between then and the fall of the bombs. Was it only China and America firing off or everyone? Maybe using fallout in terms of after a war and looking at the oil fields. There's lots of destruction but only through 'conventional' bombing.

But then it would look like New Vegas... I cant do desert again.
 

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trunkage said:
If I remember correctly, the resource wars mainly took place around the Middle East, with Europe and Russia fighting over territory. What I'm not clear about is what happened between then and the fall of the bombs. Was it only China and America firing off or everyone? Maybe using fallout in terms of after a war and looking at the oil fields. There's lots of destruction but only through 'conventional' bombing.

But then it would look like New Vegas... I cant do desert again.
they say in the timeline that oild field in the middle east run dry in 2060, so i guess by 2077 they would be poor and dying countries
 

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distortedreality said:
I say this every time this thread pops up....but Australia.
I only want this because I live here. Ha ha.
But, yeah. Australia, but it'd have to be one of the "cool" cities, like Sydney or Melbourne. Canberra would be OK too.
 

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Somewhere in America as that's the point of the Fallout Universe. America is a huge place with plenty of places to explore rather than lose the personality of Fallout by moving it out of America and becoming a generic post apocalyptic RPG.
 

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I'd like to see one in Europe. A lot of people say that taking it out of America would mean it's 'not Fallout anymore' because Fallout is a deconstruction of Americana. But what is wrong with deconstructing something else for a change? You honestly think there's nothing in Europe to deconstruct? Fallout has been the same bloody game every time, I think it's a good idea to change it up and explore some different themes and ideas every now and then.
Also, maybe some snow? They set the game in Boston and I haven't seen a single flake of snow. That might be a nice change too.

sheppie said:
Fallout 5: The Netherlands.

Because not even nuclear war will take the awesome out of it. Windmills, cheese, awesome people. Modifying your clogs on the armour bench. Going to the remnants of Staphorst and encounter the cavemen living there. Admit it, you want this.
You don't need post-apocalypse to see cavemen here >:D
In all seriousness, I'm afraid nuclear war would pretty much be the only thing that can take the awesomeness out of it, because water pumps are hard to operate when your face is melting off and half the country would be flooded.
 

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I've always thought Midwest. No, not "but Fallout Tactics had Enclave in Chicago." Sorry, St. Louis is the gateway to the west, anything east of that... is eastern U.S. My thinking on a real fallout set in the Midwest would be this, there are some VERY large stretches of land around there that no nuke would have been aimed at. And those stretches are some of the most fertile land you could find anywhere. My post-apocalypse theory is that somewhere in NW Kansas or SW Nebraska there's probably a small town with a community college that offers agricultural studies... and that small town (being populated with rural Americans) could probably defend itself well enough... Well, some small amount of time after the war that small town would be one of the best, safest, well-fed, well educated places to live left in the world. By the time of FO 3 or 4 or NV, it could be home to the most advanced wastelanders in the US. I think that could be interesting, to see them out there isolated and possibly hoarding wealth the likes of which the NCR or East Coast Brotherhood has never seen.