Where's all the SJWs at?

[Lieju]

But that is besides the topic, since you seem to know a lot about this stuff, can you tell me where I can find the domains of SJWs?

Erm sure, off the top of my head: NeoGaf or the RockPaperShotgun forums seem to be the places to be for the other side. As a GamerGate supporter I'd recommend RPS because I actually feel that they've challenged my perspective on a few things, which is the whole point of a conversation. NeoGaf less so since it's more of a barely contained flame war turned echo chamber due to extreme moderation. Aside from those (and Twitter, but that's a stupid place to get info from anyway) there's this that might help you find what your looking for:

Hope that helps.

Ps: I'll make another post about the link you gave me.

I dunno how Wikipedia is anti-gamegate?
Their article on it doesn't seem to take sides, and the talk-page has all kinds of stuff, including claims that SJWs are out there attacking male journalists, and that the article is excluding anti-gamergate views.

I'd say they at the very least try to be neutral.
Not that that's the only part I find odd about that picture, if your definition requires ALL threads, admins and contributors to be pro/against, how can you claim things like Escapist being Progamergate?

 

[Lieju]

Thank you. Now, I don't hold this opinion myself but around the circles that hate the "SJW Menace" there is a very prevalent mindset of "These people never cared about video games when we were growing up, hell they made fun of us for doing so (girls) and now they want the industry to cater to THEM?!"

So many 'anti-SJWs' are self-centered idiots, then?

 

[Thorn14]

But that is besides the topic, since you seem to know a lot about this stuff, can you tell me where I can find the domains of SJWs?

Erm sure, off the top of my head: NeoGaf or the RockPaperShotgun forums seem to be the places to be for the other side. As a GamerGate supporter I'd recommend RPS because I actually feel that they've challenged my perspective on a few things, which is the whole point of a conversation. NeoGaf less so since it's more of a barely contained flame war turned echo chamber due to extreme moderation. Aside from those (and Twitter, but that's a stupid place to get info from anyway) there's this that might help you find what your looking for:

Hope that helps.

Ps: I'll make another post about the link you gave me.

I dunno how Wikipedia is anti-gamegate?
Their article on it doesn't seem to take sides, and the talk-page has all kinds of stuff, including claims that SJWs are out there attacking male journalists, and that the article is excluding anti-gamergate views.

I'd say they at the very least try to be neutral.
Not that that's the only part I find odd about that picture, if your definition requires ALL threads, admins and contributors to be pro/against, how can you claim things like Escapist being Progamergate?

Read the talk part of the article. There is a pretty heavy slant, and people being banned from editing it because they tried to argue about the slant or how its not neutral. People have emailed Wales about it.

And Escapist actually used to be on the neutral side, this is the first time I've seen it on the pro. i'd put it at like 75% pro and 25% anti. And I'm fine with that, I'd rather have a community with people who disagree as opposed to a 8chan / neogaf circlejerk.

So many 'anti-SJWs' are self-centered idiots, then?

A good number of the loud ones, I could argue for that. Just like there are people on the opposite side who are self-centered loud idiots too.

I never took too much stock into the whole SJW thing, at least as far as some has taken it. Some annoy me and I dislike attacks on gaming, but a lot of people think there's this huge infestation conspiracy thing that just makes me roll my eyes at times.

Who knows.

 

[C. Cain]

It's the best "map" of this affair that I know of.

<img width=500>http://www.matsmatsmats.com/images/kids/streets/LC144-myneighborhood-xl.jpg

Snazzy to look at, no doubt, but neither will get you very far.

 

[R0guy]

@Lieju: I'm guessing WikiPedia is meant to be "anti-GamerGate" because they won't allow debunked or unsupported statements (like the old saw about The Fine Young Capitalists R0guy attempted earlier) about Zoe Quinn to be published in her WikiPedia article as facts.

You have got to be trolling at this point.

And finally here's a link to her competing paypal scam. http://www.rebelgamejam.com/#

 

[R0guy]

It's the best "map" of this affair that I know of.

<img width=500>http://www.matsmatsmats.com/images/kids/streets/LC144-myneighborhood-xl.jpg

Snazzy to look at, no doubt, but neither will get you very far.

Step 1: Complain about generalisation.

Step 2: Make generalisation about the generalisation.

Step 3: ?????

Step 4: Achieve moral high ground.


Tell me what your plans are for step 3, please. Or better yet, actually help the topic creator find what he is looking for.

 

[C. Cain]

Step 1: Complain about generalisation.

Step 2: Make generalisation about the generalisation.

Step 3: ?????

Step 4: Achieve moral high ground.


Tell me what your plans are for step 3, please. Or better yet, actually help the topic creator find what he is looking for.

Step three is taking the piss. It's also steps one and two. There is no step four.

As to helping our esteemed topic creator? Well, I already suggested a place for him or her to look. Namely a very special satellite.
Turns out I gave her or him the wrong place; I mistakenly led him or her to the Social Justice League. Alas! No Social Justice Warriors in sight. Elusive bunch, that.

 

[CymbaIine]

SNIP



And finally here's a link to her competing paypal scam. http://www.rebelgamejam.com/#

What are those links supposed to be evidence of? The only one that proves anything is that she sent more than 4 tweets and I have no idea if all those tweets are about what you claim they are.

 

[Jesterscup]

SNIP
And finally here's a link to her competing paypal scam. http://www.rebelgamejam.com/#

What are those links supposed to be evidence of? The only one that proves anything is that she sent more than 4 tweets and I have no idea if all those tweets are about what you claim they are.

He's claiming that wikipedia isn't being impartial because EVIDENCE!. Actually Wikipedia has something called standards, and when there are arguments a thing called a discussion happens. Now as much as some people would like there to be certain statements on wikipedia, those statements are either
1. Not provably accurate (ie. from a reliable impartial source ) - and no Zoe herself does not count
2. Irrelevent to the page itself

Simply put, what you , or anybody else, may regard as facts, they are still subjected to the same scrutiny. Read the discussions, they were heated, prolonged and protracted. As far as I know they still continue. Fact is IF something does not meet the required standards it shouldn't be there.

Honestly, soo much online propaganda gets sucked up by people as fact it's scary. Go obsess over someone who's actually evil, not someone who's made a few mistakes and probably need compassion more than anything else.

 

[Dragonbums]

Because this might surprise you, not all people think video-games are the most important thing.

I especially love it when they say "Why don't feminists/lgbtq+/sjws focus on more important issues facing them like X". It's like, once again, we aren't a hive mind. There are far far more feminists and lgbtq+ people who literally couldn't give two shits about videogames, what happens in videogames, and if they were to reference it, it would be lumped under the "entertainment media" brush and be done with it.

A huge chunk of the feminist group knows who Bell Hooks is. Most feminist do not know of, nor do they care about Anita.

 

[Dragonbums]

I agree 100% Dragons make everything better.
Otherwise we wouldn't have the trope Instant Awesome, Just Add Dragons [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InstantAwesomeJustAddDragons]

This is truth. We all know Skyrim would be nothing without Dragons in it. In fact next game it should be nothing but dragons. I want the next phase of videogames to be dragons. Dragons everywhere. That will be a glorious day. Perhaps the avian reptilian comeback will bring back our dragon Lord Spyro.

 

[Alex1508]

But that is besides the topic, since you seem to know a lot about this stuff, can you tell me where I can find the domains of SJWs?

Erm sure, off the top of my head: NeoGaf or the RockPaperShotgun forums seem to be the places to be for the other side. As a GamerGate supporter I'd recommend RPS because I actually feel that they've challenged my perspective on a few things, which is the whole point of a conversation. NeoGaf less so since it's more of a barely contained flame war turned echo chamber due to extreme moderation. Aside from those (and Twitter, but that's a stupid place to get info from anyway) there's this that might help you find what your looking for:

Hope that helps.

Ps: I'll make another post about the link you gave me.

Wait a sec, how the hell did Bioware get in there?

 

[Dragonbums]

I suppose I can always go for Social Justice Hydra? Or a Social Justice Pigeon? I hope nobody took that yet.

What about one of those Eagles from LotR? You could be one of them, but social justicey. You deserve more than pigeonhood!

Don't underestimate pigeons man. We not only have badges of honor in our name during war, but we are revered in religious books as well! Nothing can top the beauty of the dove. We also have our own dating Sim. Where's the dating Sim for Eagles? That's right. Nowhere. Eagles are overrated. Go with our pudgy feathery friends.

 

[Impulse725]

Patricia and Shcrier are why people say Kotaku is a SJW stronghold.

Thats all I'll say.

You can name two people, one of which had numerous claims about her made up by people looking for a strawman to beat on, and that's your proof?

Yeah, I think I'm going to say you just demonstrated my point.

I wasn't offering if they are SJW or not, I said just those 2 are why its seen as a SJW fortress, I could go in depth but I don't think that'll help this article.

I don't like Jason because of his attacks on Dragon Crown's art and Patricia's articles tend to be eyerollingly bad and feel like just blog posts but that is just me.

That, and it's owned by Gawker, which puts it in such august company as Buzzfeed and Jezebel.

Oh sweet Buddha don't get me started on Jezebel.

http://jezebel.com/294383/have-you-ever-beat-up-a-boyfriend-cause-uh-we-have

I'm well aware its a fringe but that doesn't mean I can't call the site out on being crazy as hell. A lot of anti SJW folk get their ammo from that site.

There's some ok articles on there, but I wouldn't disagree. Even the best case scenario when I browse there is I read the first paragraph, go "i suppose that's something to think about". And then the rest of their always insanely long articles repeat the same point over and over, or goes off the rails. Not a huge fan.

 

[Dragonbums]

Social Justice Warlock?
Do I have to tap my lifeforce to necro threads?

I personally was going to call myself Social Justice Dragon Rider, but I think that or SJ Dragon was taken by some user on page 2 of the Jimquisition.

I suppose I can always go for Social Justice Hydra? Or a Social Justice Pigeon? I hope nobody took that yet.

Social Justice Wyvern?

At least then the acronym stays the same.

I swear that was taken too. Then again I was so sad that Social Justice Dragon was taken I didn't follow the Jim thread to see what else was taken.

 

[irishda]

DID SOMEBODAY SAY SOCIAL JUSTICE WAAAAAARRRRIORRRRRSSSSS!???

http://www.harkavagrant.com/?id=341

 

[Dragonbums]

snip.

When did The Escapist become pro-GamerGate?

Specifically "All GG related threads/articles are pro-GG including admins, authors and general communities" of the site.

That's what I want to know. Allowing discussion =/= mean advocacy.

Yes, yes, hold your horses. I don't think anyone can deny that that's some pretty sweeping generalisations. But that doesn't mean it isn't accurate to an extent. It's the best "map" of this affair that I know of.

I mean, I feel Escapist should go under neutral then. Because you have just as many people on here adverse to or neutral to GG. The same can be said for tumblr. I've seen positive posts about GG on tumblr yet it's put under the neutral category.

 

[Caostotale]

I support social progress in politics, the arts, and every other human activity, but won't assume the title 'SJW' because it's a stupid and derogatory term that was conceived by a bunch of privilege-class far-right anarchists and given momentum by a mob of misfits whose only approach towards participating in civil society was to become militant in the name of a consumer preference. Though by now, they're having themselves fitted for tri-corner hats and speaking about their mission in bold, Orwellian terminology, I'm fairly certain next to none of them were attending town meetings, getting involved in the labor movement, protesting the government's attempts to censor, torture, murder, or wrongfully-imprison people (i.e. real people), or attempting to expose corruption or foul play in any other sphere of the overall capitalist economy (take your pick...) before the Quinn conspiracy came along.

 

[irishda]

Wait a sec, how the hell did Bioware get in there?

Because there's gay relationships in some of their games, which is truly a sign of the SJW infiltration in cooperation with the reverse vampires and the saucer people in order to suppress proud hetero male awesomeness and also make us think we're rapists if we DON'T participate in these awful options.

I mean, why else would they include the option for gay romances?

To be a bit more serious though, I'd hesitate to call the Escapist PRO-GG too. They gave the pro side a home for discussion, but by Tito's own admissions he's not in support of this or the slander they spread one bit. And based on the punishments I've seen handed out, I'd say a lot of the mods probably aren't on the pro-side either.

 

[Azure23]

DID SOMEBODY SAY SJW??

[img/]http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/3710072/maleficent-o.gif[/img]

here I am! what will it be? patricary? mysogany? cultural apropriation? I got it all here...wanna hear how Elizabeth is actually sexist? oh hell why don't I just skip to the chase and tell you your all terrible peopel? yes YOU personally micheal! what the hell arte you doing? no don't look at me like that

Because derp

Spoiler

oh hey! you found my twitter acount!

I think it's hilarious that people would take that at face value while simultaneously being mocked for taking shit like that seriously. Thanks, you me brightened up my day a bit.