But you know which ones are the worst? The most-definitely-not-fanfic-author-avatar [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ImplausibleDeniability] hooking up with...well, anyone who actually belongs into the story.
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Congratulations on winning the thread.
I would reward you but since you crept into my brain and stole my response, I can't. It would send the wrong message.
You already rewarded me when I stole the response... I took a few other things when I was in there too. Remember that wonderful time by the lake with the upcoming supermodel? Of course you don't. But I do now.
Congratulations on winning the thread.
I would reward you but since you crept into my brain and stole my response, I can't. It would send the wrong message.
You already rewarded me when I stole the response... I took a few other things when I was in there too. Remember that wonderful time by the lake with the upcoming supermodel? Of course you don't. But I do now.
This one threw me off too. He was just introduced so suddenly and almost immediately he latches on to Shinji. I didn't think Shinji was homosexual at all either. I will concede that it made sense though. Shinji may not have been a homosexual but he was desperate for any sort of caring and compassion anyone could give him.
Given that Kaworu was the first person to explicitly show any of those feelings towards Shinji it makes sense that he would begin to reciprocated them to some extent.
This one threw me off too. He was just introduced so suddenly and almost immediately he latches on to Shinji. I didn't think Shinji was homosexual at all either. I will concede that it made sense though. Shinji may not have been a homosexual but he was desperate for any sort of caring and compassion anyone could give him.
Given that Kaworu was the first person to explicitly show any of those feelings towards Shinji it makes sense that he would begin to reciprocated them to some extent.
Exactly, Shinji was in such a state at the time with no one to turn to that he latched himself to Kaworu. That's why he blushed when Kaworu said "I love you", because no one had shown that sort of affection to him before in living memory, so he was embarrased. He was desperate, like you said, however I don't think he reciprocated exactly.
I tend to be annoyed by Kanji/Naoto,or really any girl but Naoto is the most common.Mainly due to the fact that Kanji is gay. I don't mind it if you're just pairing for the sake of the hottness/crack factor
even for those people who hold the belief that somehow Kanji isn't gay (I find that notion rather silly anyway), Naoto and Kanji have the chemistry of oil and water. One's favorite pastime is crochet and knitting and is thick as a brick, the other is completely uninterested in anything feminine and is an intellectual who (based upon the romance option requirements) finds cunning attractive.
I also dislike pairings that make characters gay with no real evidence, simply for the sake of the romance. It's just off-putting.
Pretty much all of them, but specifically a) pairings where the 2 character quite clearly hate each other in the source material and b) homosexual pairings where 1 or both characters are clearly NOT homosexual, ie one of them is a huge ladies man/pervert.
I've never really been involved in fandoms all that much (although I did recently read a whole huge bunch of modern AU Merthur fanfiction after the last Merlin episode >>) but the way I see it, if someone wants to pair two characters, let them get on with it. I have better things to do than rage over something as silly as fan pairings.
Although it does annoy me somewhat when people start raging at same-sex fan pairings, insisting that the characters involved are straight if those characters have never actually mentioned their sexuality within the actual source material. Arthur marries Gwen you say? Why yes, he does, but I don't see how that precludes the possibility of him being attracted to Merlin. Bisexuality is a thing people, and bi-erasure is not cool.
And then there's the queer-baiting. Dean and Castiel are in no way interested in each other? Well then tell the writers to stop being asshats and to cut out the queer-baiting then. When the canon only ever treats same-sex attraction as a joke you can hardly blame the fandom from working out their frustrations in completely harmless fan works. If some girl somewhere wants to write a Destiel story let her. It's not hurting you.
While I usually don't care that much, the one specific pairing that I really hate is NarutoXSasuke in Naruto, mainly because it's fans are obnoxious, it'll never happen in cannon, and I find gay sex repulsive. I pretty much try to ignore all yaoi for the same reasons.
Incest also pisses me off, the most recent example being Sugu and Kirito in Sword Art Online. Yeah, they were biologically cousins but when you're raised as siblings it just doesn't lead to a romantic relationship, plus incest is bad 'mkay.
On a similar vein, does anyone else find the concept of harems ludicrously unrealistic, and rather insulting and degrading to women? I get the impression that those who think them up are very lonely indeed.
Shipping doesn't really grind my gears, I find it more humorous than rage-inducing. On that note:
Pictured above is a shipping chart for My Little Pony: Friendship is magic. A larger version can be found here [http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/108/9/e/ship_png_by_ciscoql-d4wif6p.png].
Some points of interest:
There are several pairings of characters who have never had speaking lines.
Every main character has been paired with themselves at least once.
Multiple characters have been paired with pets.
Mutliple characters have been paired with inanimate objects.
Multiple inanimate objects have been paired with other inanimate objects.
Someone has been paired with Daring Doo. Daring Doo is a fictional character.
Someone has been paired with Twist. There's nothing wrong with that, it's just icky to think about.
Like I said, it doesn't make me mad. I just find it funny.
Homestuck fan. Yeah its the fandom with an inbuilt shipping section INSIDE the actual story. And most ships are discussed within the cannon, the creator also declared all ships instantly cannon. Anyway:
Tavros-Vriska. Its basically a case of the horrible girl being a dick to hide how much she likes the guy secretly to the extreme. She cripples him. Its played quite hard and its intentionally made to mock animes where this is a trope. As such people who miss the mockery and take it seriously creep me out. Abuse isnt a healthy thing. Its played in anime and its kinda weird when it is.
I tend to be annoyed by Kanji/Naoto,or really any girl but Naoto is the most common.Mainly due to the fact that Kanji is gay. I don't mind it if you're just pairing for the sake of the hottness/crack factor(Trust me that's my main reason for Fuuka/every girl). However when it is serious shipping then no. Also Mitsuru/Yukari,it's not a bad pairing just a little too weak.Chie/Yukiko is done better.
As for non Persona parings,nothing really comes to mind except the Edgeworth/Phoenix pairing, for again lack of support.
NOw I sit and wait for the people who will flood me with "proof" of the above mentioned pairings.
So where was it established in the game that Kanji is gay? The game even goes against this idea several times, let's look at the evidence, he thought he might be gay because he was attracted to a girl who was dressed like a boy (who he was still attracted to after they found it they weren't a boy), he doesn't like girls personally because they make fun of the fact that he likes crafts (seen as a girl thing in the game), he peeps on girls in that hot spring scene, and he says "this isn't about being gay or not, it's about rejection" when confronting his shadow.
I'm pretty sure the last part was added in international versions,he was just along for the ride in the hotsprings scene where there was no intentional peeking just the girl's being awful at listening. Unless you're talking about the camping trip wher it just as could have easily been Yu or Yousuke he was looking at.Also where does it really show he's still attracted to Naoto after the reveal,I can't remember a point like that(that's not me being smarmy I really have terrible memory.Finally I do have a friend who is gay partially due to girl's being so awful to him. Not saying that it's some solid fact that Kanji is gay but just I've seen that sort of thing happen.
It shows he's still attracted to Naoto because of the several dozen times he blushes, turns away, and still has trouble talking to her when she shows up, not to mention, he wants to see her in different outfits during that beauty contest, they also added additional scenes in Persona 4 Golden, and are you going to claim the entire reason he snuck into the girls camp was not to prove he wasn't gay? Not to mention he gets nosebleeds (a Japanese thing to show somebody was having perverted thoughts about somebody else) several times, a few of which are only around women who aren't wearing much, and those are who those nosebleeds are clearly intended for at those times.
I take it as he's still trying to work out his feelings for Naoto combined with his general ineptness around girls(haven't played Golden so I'll refrain from comment on those scenes). As for sneaking into the girls camp, that is a combination of peer pressure,him still being in a more fragile state after the whole shadow incident(which made him even more rash than usual),and Yosuke being a dick.Also while I really don't see it that often I assume that he can get a nosebleed from seeing the guys,or as someone pointed out to me it could just be Atlus taking the piss.
I take it as he's still trying to work out his feelings for Naoto combined with his general ineptness around girls(haven't played Golden so I'll refrain from comment on those scenes). As for sneaking into the girls camp, that is a combination of peer pressure,him still being in a more fragile state after the whole shadow incident(which made him even more rash than usual),and Yosuke being a dick.Also while I really don't see it that often I assume that he can get a nosebleed from seeing the guys,or as someone pointed out to me it could just be Atlus taking the piss.
That's the impression I got from it as well, also, it's not peer pressure if it's his idea in the first place, which it was, Yusuke teased him which made him want to do it, then Yusuke tried to stop him from doing it, and he does get nosebleeds several times, sometimes around both guys and girls wearing little, sometimes around women wearing little, in which case it's obvious who those second ones were meant for, and if it is Atlus taking the piss, there isn't really any indication of it.
I'm actually a little disappointed in Golden, it's nice to have, and some extra scenes are nice, the extra month or two they give you are also nice, but they're outweighed by the negatives, they added a character who is okay, but they have a really awful dungeon with a really awful boss, this character also alters the main story in the most contrived way possible, it's like something out of a fanfiction, there's also these tarot cards that give you skills and permanent stat boosts, but they make the game way too easy, I managed to beat the entire game with only Izanagi, never once switching out for anything else because he always had the best stats, they also felt there wasn't enough fanservice in the game apparently.
i'm not a big fan of Ike/Soren from Fire Emblem Path of Radiance/Radiant Dawn...
i just don't see Ike that way, or really WANT him to be with Soren. granted there's a strong connection between the two, but i see it as immense loyalty and respect between the two. i LOVE Soren and i just don't like the pairing (sexually anyway) between him and Ike the musclehead.
Totally agree. Apparently two men cannot be close friends without being lovers. It makes much more sense anyway. Soren is too professional to get involved in that sort of thing.
This one threw me off too. He was just introduced so suddenly and almost immediately he latches on to Shinji. I didn't think Shinji was homosexual at all either. I will concede that it made sense though. Shinji may not have been a homosexual but he was desperate for any sort of caring and compassion anyone could give him.
Given that Kaworu was the first person to explicitly show any of those feelings towards Shinji it makes sense that he would begin to reciprocated them to some extent.
Exactly, Shinji was in such a state at the time with no one to turn to that he latched himself to Kaworu. That's why he blushed when Kaworu said "I love you", because no one had shown that sort of affection to him before in living memory, so he was embarrased. He was desperate, like you said, however I don't think he reciprocated exactly.
I always thought his interactions with Kawaru weren't supposed to imply that Shinji was gay, but was experiencing close male bonding and perhaps learning about homosexuality from a closer viewpoint.
i'm not a big fan of Ike/Soren from Fire Emblem Path of Radiance/Radiant Dawn...
i just don't see Ike that way, or really WANT him to be with Soren. granted there's a strong connection between the two, but i see it as immense loyalty and respect between the two. i LOVE Soren and i just don't like the pairing (sexually anyway) between him and Ike the musclehead.
Totally agree. Apparently two men cannot be close friends without being lovers. It makes much more sense anyway. Soren is too professional to get involved in that sort of thing.
well yeah there IS the whole "2 men can't show emotion to each other without being shipped by yaoi fangirls" aspect, but i could care less about that implication. hell, if *I* lived in Tellius (that Fire Emblem's land). i would TOTALLY try and hook up with Soren. (even if i was Laguz and that meant losing the ability to shift. which would suck. but Soren? WORTH IT [actually that only happens once a kid is made now i think about it... so it wouldn't matter since i'm male... still, you get my point])
i guess the main reason i don't like the pairing is because *I* want Soren.
Oh, I hear this all the time. If a man and a woman are standing next to each other, they must be in love! Yaoi fans at least tend to akcnowledge they'd often just like it to be true. (And unfortunately there's so little female/femalestuff to be found, a lot of it is based on implied relationships)
Pairings that are considered by many to be 'canon', despite a romantic relationship not being implied, on the top of my head: Caroline/Cave, Chell/Wheatley(Portal), Ichigo/Rukia (Bleach), Jill/Chris (Resident evil), Mario/Peach...
I bet a lot of people just don't oppose them that vehemently because they're heterosexual pairings, or just assume they're canon.
I have read some very outlandish and funny crack pairings that would never happen (Isn't that the function of fanfiction? To explore possibilities that could never happen), and there are several yaoi pairings I like because the characters are interesting, and the possibility of romance would be cute or make a good story. I like some hetero and yuri pairings for same reasons, but since the most interesting characters tend to be male...
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