Abomination said:
Who says it is being compared to anything? Are you attempting to appeal to worst circumstances as an excuse for it happening? Something negative is negative regardless of what is happening in other locations. If you wish to debate proportionate suffering between the discrimination or oppression other races/genders suffer in comparison to white males that's a different topic.
But again, you are saying that a white male's opinion on if white men are being discriminated against in a certain area is worth LESS than a black man's because a black man is discriminated against more in OTHER areas.
To use your fast-food worker as an analogy. It would be like a fast food worker's opinion of how accountants can be mistreated in accountancy firms holding more value than an accountant's because a fast-food worker is more likely to be mistreated than an accountant in their respective work places. But we're not talking about in workplaces overall, we are talking about if accountants can and are mistreated AT ALL in their specific workplace.
That's not using my analogy. But sure, let's run with that. One of those is an across-the-board mistreatment of workers (think coal miners and garment workers in the early 20th century). The other is specific to a single company (or a handful). Guess which one gets correct by law and which one gets corrected by lawsuit?
Two groups protest. One is a group with a large, vast experience of mistreatment. The other is a group with a handful of instance of mistreatment. Which one is systematic and which one is not? Discrimination is systematic. That's what you and so many others seem to miss. It's not tiny little instances that don't affect your life beyond making you feel, temporarily, angry. The moment you walk away from the forum, your troubles end. You aren't being discriminated against. This comic was not, in fact, making fun of all white men.
Unless, of course, you think all white men would have your reaction. And no, they don't. My friend just saw a fraction of this forum and the comic and thought it was hilarious. His words exactly, "Whine some more." But I'm more polite than he is.
To help you understand discrimination better: an employer hates redheads. He won't hire them. Is this discrimination? Sure. Does it compare to discrimination against blondes who get the same reaction from many employers? No. Why? Because it's one employer. Almost every other employer has no problem with redheads. Many even prefer them. Redheads are, in fact, more likely to be employers than blondes or brunettes. But in response to this one employer, a massive protest emerges over discrimination against redheads. Meanwhile, blondes suffer high unemployment and low wages. But these same redheads aren't protesting that, not at all.
So when you and others like you scream about discrimination, it reeks of self-righteous and self-interested diversion. You do not have a moral weight behind you because, frankly, you don't actually care about discrimination. If you did, you wouldn't be protesting this because, even if it were discrimination, you'd recognize how little impact it has in the real world and you'd be going after bigger issues.
How does this relate in any way as to IF white males are discriminated against? Nobody is saying that white men have it worse in other areas.
We aren't talking about other areas. We are talking about in race and gender debates where a while male's opinion is discriminated against.
And you're doing it right now.
Have you been discriminated against, ever? Are you complaining on the internet that people discount your opinion about discrimination (which is discrimination according to you) when you have no experience of actual discrimination? Your opinion doesn't matter as much specifically because the kind of discrimination you talk about
isn't discrimination. A comic making fun of a specific kind of person, like you, isn't discrimination. A comic making fun of a woman who complains that men don't pay for dinner anymore
and that women aren't treated equally would also not fall under the heading of sexism (unless it was tagged "This is every woman, ever.").
And me, giving your opinion less weight because you haven't given me a single, solitary instance of discrimination (beyond me not valuing your opinion much - which is really a cause/effect issue), is not discrimination. To use my fast food worker analogy, you ain't worked under the conditions so you don't know what you're talking about. Go into the kitchen first, then come back and tell me what it was like. I will give your opinion more weight then.
Meanwhile, I assume a lot, if not most, black people
have experienced it. Because I've seen it happen, because I see the results of systematic discrimination, because I've yet to meet any black person in real life who can't think of a dozen instances off the top of their head.
