Who is the most powerful Superhero? - Can't seem to trump Silver Age Superman
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There is no limit to his power depending on how mad he gets. His power is conditional, which in my mind counts against him. If Superman were in the mood to kill, Supes could drop Hulk on Mars and let him die.Island said:
If we were talking modern day Supes, I'd agree with you, but Goku has never pushed a planet out of orbit, like our silver age friend has. Besides, it takes about 10 and half episodes for Goku to produce a spirit bomb. SA Superman would have the fight knocked out of the way in 10 secondsKSarty said:
Um Goku, quite obviously, can destroy planets easily, move instantly (that's faster than light guys) so I don't think he has much trouble.
If you're talking about Silver Age "pull new powers out of my ass to solve whatever problem I have right now" Superman, then no, there are no conventional superheroes who can defeat him, you need a god tier reality warper, so Bugs Bunny, Haruhi Suzumiya, or Sailor Cosmos.
A weapon of the government? Have you even read DC continuity outside of Frank Miller's DKR? He's never been a government pawn, most especially when Lex Luthor was the President.Island said:
And the Hulk is not anger incarnate. He has to keep getting more and more angry. His power is conditional. As was pointed out, given the chance, Superman could more then likely calm him down. Besides, it's not like Superman hasn't beat the Hulk before.
EDIT: and as if the Hulk is more of a Superhero then Superman. He fucking leveled Manhatten in World War Hulk. He was all about vengence. You claim Superman isn't a hero but the Hulk is? That's a very weak argument.
See, you don't know about Silver Age Supes. Against the Hulk he'd use his Super-Psychotherapy to work out Hulk's anger issues, restoring him to being Banner forever. That's just the sort of shit he did, week in week out.Island said:
Sorry man: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraman_(comics)hermes200 said:
That's the point isn't it though. I was trying to say supes is good because of it (the opposite is true) but simply to ascertain the most powerful superhero in standard continuity.
Couple of things for the Superman fans:
1) Superman entrusted Batman with a shard of kryptonite, stating if anything happened to make Superman go crazy, Batman is the only one who could actually complete the task. This is due to Batman's lack of Eagle Scout morality, and cunning ability to shield himself from Superman's telepathic-like ability. (He thinks at super speed too, which works out sort of like pre-cognition + mind reading.)
2) Captain Marvel is basically the same thing as Superman, but his powers are based on magic. Superman is weak against magic, hence Captain Marvel could easily kill him (if his moral obligation would allow it.) See Kingdom Come for details (not canon, but it's based on canon.)
3) Hal Jordan, while under the influence of Parallax, killed a bunch of Green Lanterns and Sinestro Corps, and collected their rings. He could have killed Superman, with one energy or another. After all, the Green Lanterns are essentially space cops, and the energy they use is supposed to be pervasive to all but yellow (until later, when conquering great fear removes the weakness to yellow.)
Anyway, reality-changing powers aside, Superman is definitely the hero with the most brute-force power.
1) Superman entrusted Batman with a shard of kryptonite, stating if anything happened to make Superman go crazy, Batman is the only one who could actually complete the task. This is due to Batman's lack of Eagle Scout morality, and cunning ability to shield himself from Superman's telepathic-like ability. (He thinks at super speed too, which works out sort of like pre-cognition + mind reading.)
2) Captain Marvel is basically the same thing as Superman, but his powers are based on magic. Superman is weak against magic, hence Captain Marvel could easily kill him (if his moral obligation would allow it.) See Kingdom Come for details (not canon, but it's based on canon.)
3) Hal Jordan, while under the influence of Parallax, killed a bunch of Green Lanterns and Sinestro Corps, and collected their rings. He could have killed Superman, with one energy or another. After all, the Green Lanterns are essentially space cops, and the energy they use is supposed to be pervasive to all but yellow (until later, when conquering great fear removes the weakness to yellow.)
Anyway, reality-changing powers aside, Superman is definitely the hero with the most brute-force power.
This.BrynThomas said:
As far as I know, he's the most powerful superhero about. Chances are someone has thought of something more ridiculously overpowered though.
Anti-Monitor is probably one of the most powerful supervillains though.
Agreed. Though, if some superhero/villain had a power similar to the Haitian, he'd be in big trouble.Nasty_Taco said:
Move planets? Goku can DESTROY planets, effortlessly at that. Goku fought guys that can destroy planets with ease in the very first episode. Also, Goku can teleport across the universe in a split second. Superman might have a tiny bit of trouble with that. Superman's enemies don't even compare to the guys Goku beat.dwightsteel said:
And that's just Goku by himself. If he fused with Vegeta, it would be a pretty one-sided fight.
ElTigreSantiago said:
Effortlessly? Goku has to charge his powers for half a season to destroy planets. Not to mention he can be killed (and has been), and that he has to get beaten by every enemy to come back stronger. Granted, the Vegeto fusion probably would provide a much better match for Silver Age Superman, but even then, Superman is invincible.
Goku would probably win though, since he'd just grab Superman and instantly trans-locate him to the largest amount of Kryptonite possible.
