Who Would Pirate the One-Cent Humble Indie Bundle?

[Uncompetative]

This is all stupid.

Surely they could just put this game bundle up on a torrent site for everyone to freely download and then include a reminder message in the software inviting you to make a donation to the developers and/or their preferred charity.

Isn't this called 'Shareware'?

Besides, any charity worthy of your donation need not be entangled with a software purchase - you know... give to that charity independently?

 

[SNIPERFOX ft. Harry P.Ness]

i bought it for like 2 euro- its awsome- dont pirate it

 

[twm1709]

Rosen reached the 25 percent figure by sending two days of raw download data to a statistician friend of his, who estimated that the bundle had been downloaded from the website roughly 105,500 times, while approximately 79,000 people had made a donation of some amount. Some simple math indicates that about 75 percent of the downloads from the site are legitimate.

I doubt thats entirely accurate. For example, I payed for the games and downloaded 2 in my laptop but then I removed them and downloaded all of them in my desktop PC the day after. According to this, I've payed for the pack once and downloaded it twice. Does that mean I pirated the game?.
This the mail I got when I bought the pack:

Thanks for purchasing the Humble Bundle! To access your DRM-free copies of all of the games on any platform, just follow this link:

Please save this email so that you can download the games again whenever you'd like in the future. Feel free to make local backups though, to save bandwidth.

Not saying this is the case for everyone but saying that you're pirating for downloading from the link you bought is the equivalent of saying I'm pirating steam games if I re-download a game I payed for.

 

[John Funk]

It really blows my mind that pirates don't seem to have a concept of "If you can't afford it, you don't get to have it."

Question:

I used to have to pay up to £100 on a video game soundtrack because the CD was out of print and collectible. And always 2nd hand to boot so none of the money went to the original creators.

I now download these music tracks for free and it's not harming the original publishers/ creators banks because they're not selling it anyway. This, presumably in your eyes, makes me a pirate.

So, in your opinion, should I have to suffer without because I'm more for downloading for free rather than give stupid amounts of money to greedy, opportunist ebay sellers?

I know your quote is more aimed at pirates who download games that are still in print, but it does somewhat irritate me when people lump all free-downloaders into one pot, unable to comprehend that people do it for different reasons, some of which I would say are quite reasonable.

Like you said, downloading things that aren't available is a bit more of a gray area.

But "should I have to suffer"? Really? You're suffering for not having the music on this rare disc? That's being a bit dramatic, don't you think?

 

[GiantRedButton]

Rosen reached the 25 percent figure by sending two days of raw download data to a statistician friend of his, who estimated that the bundle had been downloaded from the website roughly 105,500 times, while approximately 79,000 people had made a donation of some amount. Some simple math indicates that about 75 percent of the downloads from the site are legitimate.

I doubt thats entirely accurate. For example, I payed for the games and downloaded 2 in my laptop but then I removed them and downloaded all of them in my desktop PC the day after. According to this, I've payed for the pack once and downloaded it twice. Does that mean I pirated the game?.
This the mail I got when I bought the pack:

Thanks for purchasing the Humble Bundle! To access your DRM-free copies of all of the games on any platform, just follow this link:

Please save this email so that you can download the games again whenever you'd like in the future. Feel free to make local backups though, to save bandwidth.

Not saying this is the case for everyone but saying that you're pirating for downloading from the link you bought is the equivalent of saying I'm pirating steam games if I re-download a game I payed for.

You are part of the 25% "Pirate" statisic.
So yeah according to the article you are a pirate
You raised the downloads by two but the donations only by one.
To the creator of this thread this means your one pirate.
If you downloaded it 3 times your actually 2 pirates.
There should have been a bit more honesty with the numbers, the article heavily suggests that there where 25%
pirates. The numbers presented are in no way related to piracy.
Btw, how long will the bundle still up? Its still some time until my bankaccount is validated with paypal.

None in the original blogs comments even assumed that the 25% where from pirates, i'm sorry but the op should really use numbers less sensationalist.
http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/05/Saving-a-penny----pirating-the-Humble-Indie-Bundle

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

I paid $10. Since I already owned World of Goo and Aquaria.

WHY DO PEOPLE PIRATE A PENNY?!

 

[Feylynn]

Well, I'm trying to pay for the bundle but none of the payment processors they offer will allow my to use prepaid credit cards and I have no other way of getting money on the Intarwabes. =(

It's not even like I can seek alternatives with only 4 hours left on the offer.

Not to say I'm going to pirate them, just trying to criticize their limited payment methods.
Seriously, give me a hat to throw the money in and I'll find some change.
Give me the ability to use a prepaid credit card and I'll give them a more substantial amount of money.
Leave me no payment method, I leave them no money.

Or maybe this is just seriously advanced cause and effect I'm scientififying right here and no one else got it. =/

 

[GiantRedButton]

Damn only 4 hours left, i'm not allowed to buy it then because of paypal setup time.
Maybe they'll prolong the donation-drive? http://www.eff.org/ gets part of the sales and that is a great cause.

 

[Feylynn]

Hmmmm, perseverance has given the devs $1!
Was trying for closer to 10 as that's what the card's status says it has left, but apparently it either lies, or they like smaller payments better... A mystery it remains.

The cardboard sign asked for $1 though, I can only assume Indie Devs will eat tonight lol.

 

[Terramax]

But "should I have to suffer"? Really? You're suffering for not having the music on this rare disc? That's being a bit dramatic, don't you think?

I suffer in that I know other people are able to listen to the music because they bought the music when it was first released whilst I cannot because I'm not willing to part absurd amounts of money for it.

 

[AngryMongoose]

How is it any worse than the people who paid one cent though? They publishers get no money either way. Not everyone is able to use online payment methods, and they'd pretty much been told that these items are effectively free.

 

[Delusibeta]

Slightly off topic, but check 1:17 of the video. If the money raised hits $1 million, Gish, Lugaru and Penumbra: Overture will have their source code released. 3 hours remain, and they're $50,000 short. Start blaming your local pirate.

 

[chronobreak]

I suffer in that I know other people are able to listen to the music because they bought the music when it was first released whilst I cannot because I'm not willing to part absurd amounts of money for it.

But it's only music. It's going to be ok, it isn't food or water or oxygen, by not having it you aren't really "suffering". I'm sure it sucks, but hey, dem's the breaks. I don't suffer because I look at my neighbors house and he has a great car, swimming pool and all that stuff. Not everything is going to be equal all the time.

 

[GiantRedButton]

Someone just donated 1337$
Thats how i love practical jokes.
Gets us closer to the source-code limit

 

[Flour]

I like how about 90% of the people here don't read.

The article, and links posted by others say it's 25% of all games downloaded from that website.
Apparently people are horrible pirates for using download accelerators, downloading it on multiple computers, giving friends who paid together for the game a link, and whatever else legitimately happened with it.
While some people will have put the download link on websites, those people need to be shot, but not everybody who downloaded the game from such a link might have known they should have paid for it.

That said, while I do pirate games to see if I like them*, indie games are a huge exception. They're the people that could use my money, but unfortunately there's no way for me to pay for those games.(I don't see why I should download something I couldn't pay even if I wanted to)

*[sub]I don't trust Demos and Reviews, and if I like the game I'll buy it when it costs as much as I think it's worth.(generally this is 30-40 euros and I often buy the console version, Dragon Age is an exception)[/sub]

 

[Slythernite]

In my opinion, Penumbra: Overture is worth a solid $9.99 all by itself, so one cent? One bloody tiny little couch-borne cent? If that's not the greatest deal since the Orange Box, I don't know what is.

 

[PhunkyPhazon]

Tell me this is a joke. You could legally get it for almost nothing, for crying out loud!

 

[Frankster]

That said, while I do pirate games to see if I like them*, indie games are a huge exception. They're the people that could use my money, but unfortunately there's no way for me to pay for those games.(I don't see why I should download something I couldn't pay even if I wanted to)

*[sub]I don't trust Demos and Reviews, and if I like the game I'll buy it when it costs as much as I think it's worth.(generally this is 30-40 euros and I often buy the console version, Dragon Age is an exception)[/sub]

:\ Let's apply this to say....a supermarket. There's this awesome new candy bar with flashy packaging. You steal it, then decide whether to go back and purchase it depending on whether you enjoyed it or not. That's the kind of attitude you're approving.

I can't stand this sort of self entitled attitude, especially for a non vital luxury for a videogame, it does show a certain decadence and loose morales.
You seem more reasonable then some others who post on this subject, but I really don't approve of your way of thinking >< Ffs, how would ANY of you have survived back in the days before internet made pirating so friggin easy?

Edit:Btw, bioware doesn't really need your money for Dragon age. You'd be helping the gaming industry a lot more if you bought lesser known quality titles rather then the AAA game everyone is buying. Not that I really believe that, Id rather you pay for everything you play, but if you really want to play robin hood.... Give to the poor, not the rich plz.

Edit2: Don't get me started on "I think we should only pay what I think its worth" attitude ¬¬ The emoticon says it all.

 

[blarghblarghhhhh]

I can tell you right now that the price doesnt matter to pirates as much as principal does. Most of them dont pay for something that they dont have to. I follow that to some degree. I dont pirate in an illegal sense but I do buy used games which is just as bad. just because you pay someone for something doesnt mean your not stealing.