Who Would Pirate the One-Cent Humble Indie Bundle?

Asehujiko

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So a quarter of the people who get this game go out of their way to be a dick...

This is why we can't have nice things.
There are multiple reasons why the difference occurs:
-Donation pooling.
-Multiple computers.
-Corrupted downloads.
-Interrupted downloads.
-Not having a credit card(not being american)
-Not having access to the payment methods(not being american or western european)
-Or plain not knowing that they have to pay for it because they stumbled onto one of the direct download links posted everywhere that say absolutely nothing about the sale.

I can personally attest the existence of 2 of the "multiple computer" downloads and one interrupted connection. By your logic about there ONLY being pirates, I'm 3 separate people all doing this to piss off the developers.
 

JEBWrench

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Well, we paid for it, and we're probably going to download the games at least four times. Maybe five.

And, this just in, you don't need a credit card. You need a bank account. There's a difference. Bank accounts, you can usually get at age 12-13 or younger.
 

joshuaayt

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I might, if I really really wanted them- I don't have a credit card, nor do I know anyone willing enough to bother buying it for me. Logically, it wouldn't make any difference to the guys who made it, because I wouldn't be able to purchase it in the first place. (Obviously I wouldn't download from the site, I'd torrent)
Of course, being a fleshy human who can feel guilt, I'd probably send some money their way when I finally do get a card.
 

JEBWrench

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PayneTrayne said:
Actually, you only need a bank account.
Then tell me how, if thats true.
I'm highly skeptical about the statement,
but if it works i'll buy it.
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Go to PayPal. Sign up. Sync with bank account.
 

GiantRedButton

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JEBWrench said:
GiantRedButton said:
PayneTrayne said:
Actually, you only need a bank account.
Then tell me how, if thats true.
I'm highly skeptical about the statement,
but if it works i'll buy it.
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Go to PayPal. Sign up. Sync with bank account.
It works up to now, however Paypal takes 4 days to set up, so it is rather complicated to circumvent the creditcard requirement.
Big thanks, i hope its still up when i get the account finished. :)
I was pretty annoyed that i couldn't get the deal. Nice :)
(Paypal needs to sent a minor transaction that shows that your account is ledgit. You need to go to the bank and after 4 days the transaction shows up on in your printable history.
 

Riobux

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I can tell I'm going to be quickly unpopular when I say this: I pirated the games. Before you all burn me to a crisp, there's really two things that led to me doing it.

The first was my dad. Even though I'm 19, I don't have a stable credit card that can be used online. So, I usually have to use my dad's card and then pay him back using money from my bank account. This can work well when it's repeated purchases from the same company (e.g. Play.com or Steam) but can quickly turn into a nightmare of "discussion" (if you can count a mostly one way scream as discussion). Let me give an example of how quick he is to bring to a rage: My dad was already somewhat annoyed with the ferrets as they were trying to climb into a planet pot. He also wanted me to write down what games I had. So I decided that I'd just read out two of the games (Resident Evil and Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem) and let him copy off the box of the third (some Star Wars game). He wrote down Resident Evil, and then I told him "Eternal Darkness Semi-Colon Sanity's Requiem" (yes, I know I should of said colon). He wrote out the word "Semi-colon". I corrected him. It led to him getting angry at me. So I usually refrain from confusing him too much, so I was going to just not touch the bundle.

Last night, someone I know offered me the game bundle, that they had the key. It was at that point, I thought "fuck it, I'll think of a way to pay them back" and clicked the link.

If my credit card was able to handle on-line transactions, then I probably would of paid about £2 all for the developers. Nothing I can do now I guess.
 

TriggerHappyAngel

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omg, even if downloading a certain (non-existing) game would cost someones life then it would still be downloaded by thousands of people :/

and i already felt guilty because i payed "only" 20$ ...
 

kingmob

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The argument of this article is severely flawed, ignoring the basis for the 25% figure completely. That is a huge figure and needs more basis than "a statistician friend that does simple math". The fact is that measuring piracy is a hard thing to do that is nearly impossible from just these 2 figures.

And then to assume 25% of the people are such assholes that they'd download a game instead of paying 1 cent just because they can is the biggest stretch of all. It doesn't make sense, where a lot of other reasons do. But the author chooses to ignore them ALL and comes right out that this proves his point.
And people wonder why badly thought out anti-piracy schemes still exist...
 

Playbahnosh

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Well, considering the global piracy rate is at around 98%, I'd say 25% is nothing sort of a miracle!

That 25% might not all be self-entitled assholes either. As it was said before, not everyone on the planet has a credit card, kids certainly don't have one not to mention under-developed countries. And there is the fact some people just got so used to downloading stuff it's hard for them to pay for anything software related or they simply don't know how. Yes, there are people who simply doesn't care, and won't even pay a single penny for a game, and yes, they are fucking assholes.
 

JEBWrench

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GiantRedButton said:
It works up to now, however Paypal takes 4 days to set up, so it is rather complicated to circumvent the creditcard requirement.
Big thanks, i hope its still up when i get the account finished. :)
I was pretty annoyed that i couldn't get the deal. Nice :)
(Paypal needs to sent a minor transaction that shows that your account is ledgit. You need to go to the bank and after 4 days the transaction shows up on in your printable history.
Odd, it took us a matter of minutes to set up ours. Of course, different banks operate differently, I suppose.
 

Daipire

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Distorted Stu said:
See video for answer.


I jest! I would buy it, i mean, come on, it's as close as physically possible to being free. AND ITS LEGAL! :eek:
It gets really hot at the 7 second mark... I jest!!! I swear!!!!1!!!!

Anyway, I'm a virtual hobo, I have no access to money over the internet... :(
 

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This is really sad. ITS ONE FUCKING CENT. But some people would rather die than spend one more cent than they have to.
You could probably walk outside and find a cent on the ground somewhere. It's not exactly breaking the bank. They're even stealing from a charity, a children's charity no less! They might as well go around punching babies in the face and pouring crude oil over baby seals as they club them!

Okay, maybe just a little over the top there, but you get the point.
 

Rect Pola

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Now it's official. All excuses to justify their defiance of basic societal flow and function are now meaningless.

Pirating is not being a rebel against "the man", it's a compulsion.
 

TSPhoenix

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I've found this all pretty interesting.

For the record I paid US$10.50 and bought a few copies for gifting within that figure. I've never played any of these games and quite frankly know next to nothing about any of them and have no idea if they are any good. Plus I'm not a huge fan of digital downloads but its for charity so I didn't care that much. If I really love one of them I might buy a boxed copy.

In return I get some emails with download links. I have a pretty dodgy internet connection so instead of worrying about my modem dropping out I though to myself, I could just get the torrent and when I wake up in the morning all the files will be there and they'll all be perfect and exactly the same as if I'd downloaded from wolfire.com. If anything I saved them bandwidth.

At this point I pondered what exactly was it that I bought. Lets say I buy some kind of trialware program, they give me a serial key which is unique to me, that I put into the program to say 'hey I own this'. With this bundle there is no such thing. If I don't keep my sister's PayPal emails (I wont, also irritating they didn't have Visa payment) there is no way to tell I purchased this EXE or pirated it.

Also one of the friends I gifted it to already has World of Goo, can he now keep the other games and give away/sell World of Goo? If I cut/paste the installer to a friend's HDD does that count? Is it magically illegal if I copy/paste it instead? When I die and I leave all my remaining games to my kids, do they all get a copy or what?

This has really blurred the line between piracy and legitimate ownership. There is no difference between a legal and illegal copy of this bundle. The ownership of said bundle is shaky at best.

Already one my friends I gifted (I don't know how it works for gift recipients) had trouble and couldn't get his games so I told him to just buy it again for a cent or find a download link.

Also I'm on Windows, what happens if later I want the Mac version that I paid for and the link doesn't work anymore? Do I have to download them all now?

In short there are a lot of ownership issues here that while nobody cares now as we are playing our shiny new games, they ultimately are important.