Why all the hate for TOR?
- Thread starter Riptide1
- Start date
Recommended Videos
ive seen alot of hate for this game...
people that say "i hate it" never had played it
big franchise
competing against a mega giant
recipes for someone to "hate" a game not even out yet...
people that say "i hate it" never had played it
big franchise
competing against a mega giant
recipes for someone to "hate" a game not even out yet...
1) They said you would get your own spaceship. Jubilations! So many options for character customization and roleplay! They later revealed that you would get a class-specific ship.
2) Class-specific partners who actually have an effect on the story! Jubilations! So many options for character development and roleplay! They later revealed that they won't even randomize the names, so you're going to see 10 million Wookies running around with the same name. Kind of breaks the immersion.
3) They said there was going to be advanced/specialization classes. Jubilations! So many options for character customization and roleplay! They later revealed the titles. And one was Jedi Wizard.
I've stopped paying attention after they touted space combat as being huge, important, and awesome, and it turns out it's just a rail shooter that doens't even have PvP.
2) Class-specific partners who actually have an effect on the story! Jubilations! So many options for character development and roleplay! They later revealed that they won't even randomize the names, so you're going to see 10 million Wookies running around with the same name. Kind of breaks the immersion.
3) They said there was going to be advanced/specialization classes. Jubilations! So many options for character customization and roleplay! They later revealed the titles. And one was Jedi Wizard.
I've stopped paying attention after they touted space combat as being huge, important, and awesome, and it turns out it's just a rail shooter that doens't even have PvP.
i don't hate the idea of TOR, i just think they could spend their time Much better, Battlefront 3, knights of the old republic 3 (or just remake & FINISH the 2nd one), another Jedi knight game (to wash away the stink of the ridiculous force unleashed) i mean star wars used to be the most aweosome franchise in video games, Lucas arts had a gift for making everything feel "Star wars authenthic"
I fear that this Mmo is just another loathsome piece of trash that they'll develop solely for profit, just like the force unleashed. and just like that trash, this will make millions, wther it sucks or is a good mmo.
And because its an mmo, and will do very little to advance the Proper storyline of star wars; hence the totally new time period, it would take too much thought and effort to develop something in one of the current time periods, but this way they can just write any old guff and connect it loosely to the past and future. Its all very convienient: (Waaay before the awesome jedi vs sith war, but also thousands of years after revan)
i mean, we already have an old republic! surely Old can't just cover everything thats happened before the clone wars!
I fear that this Mmo is just another loathsome piece of trash that they'll develop solely for profit, just like the force unleashed. and just like that trash, this will make millions, wther it sucks or is a good mmo.
And because its an mmo, and will do very little to advance the Proper storyline of star wars; hence the totally new time period, it would take too much thought and effort to develop something in one of the current time periods, but this way they can just write any old guff and connect it loosely to the past and future. Its all very convienient: (Waaay before the awesome jedi vs sith war, but also thousands of years after revan)
i mean, we already have an old republic! surely Old can't just cover everything thats happened before the clone wars!
im looking forward to it, for alot of reasons that people are saying are complete opposite such as
"its just a WoW clone"
uh...what? its fucking bioware. and have you any back history on kotor at all? in no way is it a WoW clone, if it is, the game will be dropped so damn fast to the point of not even being worthy of mention. bioware is taking a new spin on mmo's making it more single player based and continuing on the kotor backstory for a more story based approach to things, in which, this is drawing from a new market and different from wow.
if you are saying the above comment, i have no idea what videos you are watching or what info you are looking at, but i do not see a wow clone at all.
i have always despised the subsciption payments, i have always hated the grind and raiding and all that shit involved in mmo's, if you like it, wonderful, im happy for you, but i hate it, it seems like bioware is really taking a stab at getting rid of that kind of crap, and concentrating more on what they do best, which is why me, as like a bunch of other people, are going to give an mmo a try, and actually pay that annoying 15 dollars a month for the game.
in all honesty, i hope the game does great, but im not expecting gods greatest gift (kotor 3 would've been that). Haters gonna hate, and apparently they are some super angsty net nerds.
"its just a WoW clone"
uh...what? its fucking bioware. and have you any back history on kotor at all? in no way is it a WoW clone, if it is, the game will be dropped so damn fast to the point of not even being worthy of mention. bioware is taking a new spin on mmo's making it more single player based and continuing on the kotor backstory for a more story based approach to things, in which, this is drawing from a new market and different from wow.
if you are saying the above comment, i have no idea what videos you are watching or what info you are looking at, but i do not see a wow clone at all.
i have always despised the subsciption payments, i have always hated the grind and raiding and all that shit involved in mmo's, if you like it, wonderful, im happy for you, but i hate it, it seems like bioware is really taking a stab at getting rid of that kind of crap, and concentrating more on what they do best, which is why me, as like a bunch of other people, are going to give an mmo a try, and actually pay that annoying 15 dollars a month for the game.
in all honesty, i hope the game does great, but im not expecting gods greatest gift (kotor 3 would've been that). Haters gonna hate, and apparently they are some super angsty net nerds.
I think, as always, it's too early to tell if it'll be good or bad. Haters will hate (though I haven't really seeing that much hate) but I live my own life...I'll judge it when its done.
I am looking forward to it though. My only concern is that every Tom, Dick and Penelope will be a Jedi, faffing about the countryside spamming lightning bolts or other Midichlorian related shenanigans.
I am looking forward to it though. My only concern is that every Tom, Dick and Penelope will be a Jedi, faffing about the countryside spamming lightning bolts or other Midichlorian related shenanigans.
it so much that it looks bad more than me simply hoping its bad.
KOTOR was made, and it was great. obsidian made KOTOR2, and they fucked up what couldve been an awesome game if they just fucking finished making it before releasing it. and then....bioware decides to make an MMO in the same mythos, though 300 years later so they dont have to connect to the unresolved story of 1 and 2.
pretty much the same reason i hate the left 4 dead series. whatever the game's merits, i simply cannot get over the fact that it isnt HL2 ep3 that Valve is supposed to be making. likewise, TOR is not KOTOR3 and it never will be despite whatever ham-handed methods they use to try and tie it to the original plot to shut up fans. not to mention its taking an acclaimed series based on single player RPG-ness and making it an MMO, which for me is like making an FPS series into a racing game. i despise MMOs, and for turning a great series into one, TOR must die.
fortunately, im sure it will die. big budget MMO trying to overthrow WoW? trying to sell on the star wars license? it failed horribly with SW:Galaxies, hopefully it will with TOR so bioware will stop ruining the already dead series.
KOTOR was made, and it was great. obsidian made KOTOR2, and they fucked up what couldve been an awesome game if they just fucking finished making it before releasing it. and then....bioware decides to make an MMO in the same mythos, though 300 years later so they dont have to connect to the unresolved story of 1 and 2.
pretty much the same reason i hate the left 4 dead series. whatever the game's merits, i simply cannot get over the fact that it isnt HL2 ep3 that Valve is supposed to be making. likewise, TOR is not KOTOR3 and it never will be despite whatever ham-handed methods they use to try and tie it to the original plot to shut up fans. not to mention its taking an acclaimed series based on single player RPG-ness and making it an MMO, which for me is like making an FPS series into a racing game. i despise MMOs, and for turning a great series into one, TOR must die.
fortunately, im sure it will die. big budget MMO trying to overthrow WoW? trying to sell on the star wars license? it failed horribly with SW:Galaxies, hopefully it will with TOR so bioware will stop ruining the already dead series.
The story for each member of a class will be the same. They will have the selection of identical companions with preset names (as opposed to randomly generated). And I'm expecting that something like 90% of the game's content will be shared by all the classes. A jedi knight and a smuggler will probably have different questgivers and could even have different objectives and rewards, while the darksiders will likely view the quest from an entirely different angle, but in the end, the location and the situation will be the same for them all. The presentation might differ, but content will not.Savagezion said:
Some unique class-specific quests here and there, of course, but the majority of the content has to be shared. You can't make an MMO without Multiplayer and that requires sharing. You can't play with your friends if they spend all their time doing their class-specific quests and the only place you can see other players is Coruscant's Marketplace. The game already looks enough like a single-player game (with some other people getting in your way and ruining the experience/immersion/whatever) without making it 8 isolated mini-games.
And hey, making content for one class means only 12.5% of the players will see it. Making it available to everyone makes that 100% for pretty much the same cost. It's in the players' and the developers' best interest to make as fewer class-specific areas and dungeons as possible.
You can't expect people to reinvent the wheel everytime. The game isn't going to be innovative on the battle part, it's going to be in the story part. You should go out and buy the latest PC Gamer where they played the first six hours of the game, y'know, instead of talking about shit you don't have a clue of. Makes things better for all of us.Sturmdolch said:
I wouldn't go as far as to call it hate, but dislike, disappointment and pessimism, yes.
The main reason is because people wanted a singleplayer KoTOR to continue the story.
The other, and my personal peeve, it's being marketed for an audience that SOE tried to attract and ended up almost ruining Star Wars Galaxies.
The main reason is because people wanted a singleplayer KoTOR to continue the story.
The other, and my personal peeve, it's being marketed for an audience that SOE tried to attract and ended up almost ruining Star Wars Galaxies.
Surely the whole point of an MMO is the multiplayer, otherwise they could just make a single player game and release DLC. Without a good endgame this game will not do to well because people will complete the story and be done with it. MMO's make most of their money off of long paying subscriptions.gmaverick019 said:
As for TOR, i wish it all the best, i'm not fussed either which way. I don't think that because Bioware made it that means it'll be the best thing since sliced bread, but there we go.
Just have to wait and see.
I do agree that I personally would be more excited about a mass effect mmo. Offers up a unique combat and progression system and is not a dead horse IP. I don't have any real hate for this game though, but I don't really like what MMOs generally do to my life when i start one.Alade said: