Its lazy and boring and pretty much exactly copies mods that already exist and are superior. Doesn't really justify having a price tag at all.
Why all the hate on Hearthfire?
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And this makes me glad to not be subjected to the DLC for Skyrim, due to mainly playing on my PS3 while I upgrade my PC.
I honestly found the world to be as shallow as a puddle of water, with the only deep part being the Dark Brotherhood... then I finished that quest and didnt like the taste it left in my mouth.
I honestly found the world to be as shallow as a puddle of water, with the only deep part being the Dark Brotherhood... then I finished that quest and didnt like the taste it left in my mouth.
I like how you can ignore all the information coming from actual modders and pretend you're right.TaintedSaint said:
Heres why i hate it:Montezuma said:
I think Hearthfire was a totally stupid direction to go with the DLC. I hate it because i dont like the content. And i believe the time could have been better spent focusing on Skyrims strengths rather than trying to cover obscure unrelated bases.
Skyrim is a land where youre the fucking Dovakin. You kill dragons. Explore an ancient dead city. And scour the land with your fury and lightning and its fucking awesome. Skyrim is a playground. An amazing beautiful playground. With amazing rides and scenery and youre a god placed in this playground to do whatever you want. Some amazing tools in skyrim. The dwarven civilization was fascinating. The origin of the falmer. To me hearthfire is like giving you the power to change the colour of the smallest swingset in that playground. Its boring compared to the possibilities that such a setting unlocks for you. Creative and brilliant stories could be told.
Instead your mighty powerful dovakin can adopt a kid and make a fish farm. It seems like Skyrim is trying to appeal to a niche of players who honestly, even if they do play skyrim, are not playing skyrim to fullfill that need to create an average virtual life. They are there to create an amazing virtual life where they can be something above the ordinary. Im not gonna touch the mod arguement. Instead ill say hearthfire for me poorly fills a role filled by the sims. It forgets the niche Skyrim fills for gamers and tries to be too much to appease too many people. It should stick to its strengths. Add this content later after they properly explore all Skyrim can be. Its like having a beautiful unfinished painting and using the extra space for naughts and crosses. Use it for more art instead!
You make a good point, and I appreciate your honesty.BiscuitTrouser said:
Of course we all have different play styles, and roleplaying is important for some players, myself being among them.
Well, I was really eager to get it, as in "Oooh! Shiny new DLC! Must get it! Must play some more Skyrim!"
...and what I got was, basically, a Barbie house with a Playdoh kitchen and an MLP experience of how-to-parent an adopted kid because sex is out of the question. Let the peasants make filthy sex and ship the kid to you with UPS!
OK, my fault for not reading up on it beforehand, but I was expecting to build my fancy own black tower of doom right outside the city walls, and then open up franchises all over the map. Can't have that, but I can play digital Barbie stuff, no thanks for that. It's like adding a clown nose or a giant wiener to a Lamborghini Gallardo - it's just wrong.
...and what I got was, basically, a Barbie house with a Playdoh kitchen and an MLP experience of how-to-parent an adopted kid because sex is out of the question. Let the peasants make filthy sex and ship the kid to you with UPS!
OK, my fault for not reading up on it beforehand, but I was expecting to build my fancy own black tower of doom right outside the city walls, and then open up franchises all over the map. Can't have that, but I can play digital Barbie stuff, no thanks for that. It's like adding a clown nose or a giant wiener to a Lamborghini Gallardo - it's just wrong.
I don't hate Hearthfire. It's just that I'd downloaded the Olympus Mons mod that gave me a castle that I had to fight a really strong mod-exclusive dragon on top of a mountain to gain access to. 'Twas badass as fuck.
I've no interest in adopting a kid because the kids in that game annoy the fuck out of me, I don't bother with cooking, I'm not interested in a pet. Basically the stuff it added didn't interest me.
At least it's not Horse Armour.
I've no interest in adopting a kid because the kids in that game annoy the fuck out of me, I don't bother with cooking, I'm not interested in a pet. Basically the stuff it added didn't interest me.
At least it's not Horse Armour.
I think one's perspective would be based entirely upon if they play Skyrim on console or pc. On console, you might want to build a custom house and all that since every house available in the base game has some sort of compromise inherent. By contrast, on PC there are dozens of house mods of varying quality.
That said, I have not seen a house mod on the PC that has anything approaching this amount of depth. Of course, now that the base has been put in, the modding community is certain to capitalize it and make it better. So, in general, I don't have any hate for the mod and those who direct such hate are silly in my book. To hate something so easily ignored is silly.
That said, I have not seen a house mod on the PC that has anything approaching this amount of depth. Of course, now that the base has been put in, the modding community is certain to capitalize it and make it better. So, in general, I don't have any hate for the mod and those who direct such hate are silly in my book. To hate something so easily ignored is silly.
Gee, why on earth would someone pay five dollars of their own money to get a house DLC that was built by professional developers and not some guy in a basement. How dare they not share my same opinions on this DLC, they must obviously have the brain power of your average taproot!
Seriously, if you like it, good for you, if you hate it? Then hate it, just try to do so silently without foaming at the mouth with vitriol for people who are adults who can choose how to spend their money in any way they want.
Sure, I don't agree with the things people spend their money on, infact I could sit here and complain about people giving money to Anita Sarkessian, or to Call of Duty games, or Battlefield games. But come on, this DLC is five bucks, most people have that much in spare change alone.
Seriously, if you like it, good for you, if you hate it? Then hate it, just try to do so silently without foaming at the mouth with vitriol for people who are adults who can choose how to spend their money in any way they want.
Sure, I don't agree with the things people spend their money on, infact I could sit here and complain about people giving money to Anita Sarkessian, or to Call of Duty games, or Battlefield games. But come on, this DLC is five bucks, most people have that much in spare change alone.
I hate it because its a buggy heap of shit. As is everything from Bethesda. I can't even use it because I wanted to build the House in Falkreath but its bugged and the Yarl won't give me the option.
Bethesda games are horribly bad games with an awesome concept.
Bethesda games are horribly bad games with an awesome concept.
Based on what I've seen and heard....
Why would I want to play the Sims while I'm playing Skyrim?
Why would I want to play the Sims while I'm playing Skyrim?
My thought on it is this:
It's primarily a console oriented DLC. However, if they hadn't released it on PC, PC gamers would have complained.
It's a $5 DLC that you don't have to buy. If Mods do it better, good for you. Get a mod. For me? I got it (I'm on PC). Why?
I'mma quote myself here:
It's primarily a console oriented DLC. However, if they hadn't released it on PC, PC gamers would have complained.
It's a $5 DLC that you don't have to buy. If Mods do it better, good for you. Get a mod. For me? I got it (I'm on PC). Why?
I'mma quote myself here:
Krantos said:
I quite like it but I can see why it might not appeal; PC gamers can download houses for free from Nexus, not everyone is bothered about adoption and marriage, nobody I know bothers with cooking and a lot of people are straight-up bored of Skyrim, and that's all pretty reasonable. I don't understand the hate - I doubt Bethesda are taking time out of bigger, Dawnguard style expansions and throwing all their manpower into Hearthfire and it's not like they're throwing in things that people would have expected to be included in the original game (eg arrow crafting in Dawnguard) - but I can definitely see why people wouldn't be interested.
Well good for the PC master race then. I guess us console users should just be left in the cold then.pilouuuu said:
I play it on PC and I haven't bought it, mainly because I don't want to build my own house and spend the 5 bucks on a mod to do that as well as adopt a kid. Frankly, I have all my house needs fulfilled with Dovakhiin Hideout and Soul Forge. That being said, I am definitely not complaining about Hearthfire. One of my friends refuses to use any mods, mostly because he doesn't really know how, and this is amazing in his eyes. I've used most of the house mods on Nexus, but seeing Hearthfire on his computer I am of the opinion that the mods don't really come anywhere close to the DLC. Yes, it was all done before, but it was never done as well. You're paying for quality with this.
In Skyrim I want to do cool fantasy adventure shit.
I don't want to run a household. I do that in real life. That shit is fucking boring.
If you seriously want to play a game and spend your time in game cooking...buy Cooking Mama not Skyrim.
I don't want to run a household. I do that in real life. That shit is fucking boring.
If you seriously want to play a game and spend your time in game cooking...buy Cooking Mama not Skyrim.
It does a much better job than any mod I have seen in adding proper customisable housing, and the adoption options were also great. The problem with trying to achieve these things with lots of mods is that they often don't work well together, but Hearthfire averts this.
I personally enjoyed it and considered it worth the price, but wouldn't tell anyone else that it is essential or worth their money.
I personally enjoyed it and considered it worth the price, but wouldn't tell anyone else that it is essential or worth their money.