It's not that I hate them, it's that they're beating all of these other developers that are held in such high regard. I really don't think that their games stack up to Valve's.
Why all the Zynga hate?
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Zynga sucks a$$ i like my hardcore game but i also played mafia wars on tagged facebook and myspace but they screwed us on tagged so i'm boycotting all there stupid game!!!!!!!!!!!
In response to the OP, I think PopCap are a fantastic developer. They make casual games but they do it well. Peggle was a bit too addictive and simple for my liking but Plants vs Zombies was awesome, it took a genre I've never really liked (Tower Defence) and made it fun and crazy.
The reason people don't like Zynga is because of a couple of things. Criticisms about "they don't make real games" aside (which I think is a crock of shit, personally), the main fault is that their games are bland, plagiarised, and operate in a similar way to a gambling addiction - if you don't log into Farmville every couple of days, all of your plants die and progress is lost.
Add to that the fact that the CEO admitted to scamming players of the corporation's games for additional profits and the fact that they're essentially dominating March Mayhem due to ignorance and yeah, it makes perfect sense that there's a lot of hate towards Zynga on these forums.
The reason people don't like Zynga is because of a couple of things. Criticisms about "they don't make real games" aside (which I think is a crock of shit, personally), the main fault is that their games are bland, plagiarised, and operate in a similar way to a gambling addiction - if you don't log into Farmville every couple of days, all of your plants die and progress is lost.
Add to that the fact that the CEO admitted to scamming players of the corporation's games for additional profits and the fact that they're essentially dominating March Mayhem due to ignorance and yeah, it makes perfect sense that there's a lot of hate towards Zynga on these forums.
I think its a joke that they are even in the march madness.
Their tiny flash games may be fun for some people, and most of them are still beta, but they aren't anywhere near the same level as quality as every other developer in the march madness thingy.
Their tiny flash games may be fun for some people, and most of them are still beta, but they aren't anywhere near the same level as quality as every other developer in the march madness thingy.
Every year the Escapist paints the devil horns on someone and try the whole competition to stop there advances and fails. Last year it was turbine, this year it is Zynga. Next year it will be someone else. Sadly, Turbine has been turned away by rampant hate and Zynga will probably do the same.
If you enjoy Zynga's games more than anyone else's then from your point of view Zynga is the best developer and there's no reason you shouldn't vote for them. Personally I like more intellectual, engaging games so I voted for the companies making Portal and the better of the FFs (6, 9, 13).
But... valve is in control of that, "blockbuster, netflix" thing. Steam.
Bringing most of the respectable PC games of the past years onto one site and creating a sort-of DRM that people ACCEPT is something that make Valve utterly kickass and do more for hte hardcore segment of gaming than Zynga will ever do, even if they made an extra billion players. Those billion will keep buying shovelware adn we'll be getting no where for an entire generation.
Oh and valve has made great games and respect their communities.
Does Zynga offer mods?
Bringing most of the respectable PC games of the past years onto one site and creating a sort-of DRM that people ACCEPT is something that make Valve utterly kickass and do more for hte hardcore segment of gaming than Zynga will ever do, even if they made an extra billion players. Those billion will keep buying shovelware adn we'll be getting no where for an entire generation.
Oh and valve has made great games and respect their communities.
Does Zynga offer mods?
These games tore my family apart. They were so addicting, my mother and father split over cafe world and farm ville. These games are my enemy. I garantee to you the day I can draw my sword, these companies will fall. Then they shall know the pain I've felt because of them.
Pop Cap actually takes time to make some really, really fun games like Plants vs. Zombies. Zynga on the other hand, makes poor quality flash games that spam and scam the players that play it.
Also, Zynga doesn't deserve to win a Best Developer contest like March Mayhem. There is no way in hell that Zynga is better than any of the other developers that were in the tournament. Its games are pure shit and it spams and scams the people that play the games. They didn't deserve to be in this tournament to begin with. Zynga also fucked up everyone's bracket. That is why we hate Zynga
Fuck Zynga!
Also, Zynga doesn't deserve to win a Best Developer contest like March Mayhem. There is no way in hell that Zynga is better than any of the other developers that were in the tournament. Its games are pure shit and it spams and scams the people that play the games. They didn't deserve to be in this tournament to begin with. Zynga also fucked up everyone's bracket. That is why we hate Zynga
Fuck Zynga!
I don't literally hate them, from time to time I'm farming, too, just to kill some time.
But nevertheless I don't like them and I totally agree that they don't fit in this contest.
What I don't like mainly is the arrogance, seeing themselves as great(est) developers and pioneers only because of their massive amount of users but haven't released any stable game yet. To excuse the countless bugs they mark every game as "beta" so that noone can really complain. 80 million beta testers 24/7 and no final version in sight or even intended. That's ridiculous.
In addition to that of course I dislike the fact that every popular Zynga game is a rip-off and the inventors of the idea, mostly smaller app developers, have no chance to compete because of their unfair and unreliable advertising/spam practices.
And looking at the exchange rate real money <-> ingame cash you'll see that it's nothing more than scam. For a single house in farmville for example you have to pay the equivalent of $5-20. Yes, you don't HAVE to pay for their games but playing the free stuff only is like playing the tutorial level of a game all the time and you'll be bored soon. So many people see those new and shiny houses in the market area and just want to place them on their farm to add a personal style to it. Since not having to deal with great challenges ingame you can see most of the farmers as Junior Level Designers - with the difference that they can't really walk through their maps and get some action afterwards. Now just as a gag: Translate the pricing for single objects to a regular CS map like cs_italy. So many houses, you'd have to pay about $500 to get that style and atmosphere. and that's just a single map ^^.
I added some farmers I don't know personally just to get some really active neighbors and trying out the social part of it and a lot of them seem to buy oodles of BS just because nearly every week another set enters the market. And when the next one comes up they store the old stuff to get space for the next BS and won't ever use it anymore.
So I guess assuming these neighbors are the average of farmville 'customers' they pay every month at least $50 by 'playing' that buggy and laggy scam app just because they are kind of addicted and can't stop anymore because otherwise they had to admit that they wasted a lot of time and money for nothing - so they keep on farming.
Talking about free games here huh?
So THAT's why I don't like Zynga
But nevertheless I don't like them and I totally agree that they don't fit in this contest.
What I don't like mainly is the arrogance, seeing themselves as great(est) developers and pioneers only because of their massive amount of users but haven't released any stable game yet. To excuse the countless bugs they mark every game as "beta" so that noone can really complain. 80 million beta testers 24/7 and no final version in sight or even intended. That's ridiculous.
In addition to that of course I dislike the fact that every popular Zynga game is a rip-off and the inventors of the idea, mostly smaller app developers, have no chance to compete because of their unfair and unreliable advertising/spam practices.
And looking at the exchange rate real money <-> ingame cash you'll see that it's nothing more than scam. For a single house in farmville for example you have to pay the equivalent of $5-20. Yes, you don't HAVE to pay for their games but playing the free stuff only is like playing the tutorial level of a game all the time and you'll be bored soon. So many people see those new and shiny houses in the market area and just want to place them on their farm to add a personal style to it. Since not having to deal with great challenges ingame you can see most of the farmers as Junior Level Designers - with the difference that they can't really walk through their maps and get some action afterwards. Now just as a gag: Translate the pricing for single objects to a regular CS map like cs_italy. So many houses, you'd have to pay about $500 to get that style and atmosphere. and that's just a single map ^^.
I added some farmers I don't know personally just to get some really active neighbors and trying out the social part of it and a lot of them seem to buy oodles of BS just because nearly every week another set enters the market. And when the next one comes up they store the old stuff to get space for the next BS and won't ever use it anymore.
So I guess assuming these neighbors are the average of farmville 'customers' they pay every month at least $50 by 'playing' that buggy and laggy scam app just because they are kind of addicted and can't stop anymore because otherwise they had to admit that they wasted a lot of time and money for nothing - so they keep on farming.
Talking about free games here huh?
So THAT's why I don't like Zynga
You sir are made of win you hit the nial on the head and restated my oppinion exactly what do these idiots get out of spamming a community they arnt even part of.FightThePower said:
P.s. who ever had the bright idea to involve 4chan should be hunted down and killed. thats the reason the zynga vs. valve forum is spamed with everything from porn to walls of nothing but zynga is gay.
If shallow, derivative time-wasters are the future are the future of the industry, then I'd rather the industry not have a future at all.
That's a little melodramatic, don't you think?Vladmir Oreilly said:
I mean, did a wise man not once say, "Can't we all just get along?" I think it was President Dale.
Anyways, the only reason I can think of valid hate for Zynga is that whole fiasco with scamming people. If the CEO changed after that, I wouldn't care, but to my understanding, it's the same guy, right? Well, that's pretty wrong. And the whole, you know, stealing artwork from other games. That's pretty bad too.
But, the games are popular. And popular things win in popularity contests.
I don't understand the big deal, though. I mean, I am new here, so that's probably the reason. But what happens to the winner of March Mayhem? Do they get anything? Anything at all? Does it carry any meaning?
What is the community here afraid of, in that manner? That people new to gaming will come here, see Zynga won, and start playing Facebook games rather than Mass Effect 5? Well, I don't see that happening.
But of course, I couldn't care less. The developer I registered here to vote for got knocked out in the first round!
Well, i hate them for being scammers and for having a name that sits on a tongue about as well as a pile of manure. Seriously, whoever came up with their company name should be shot, it's just ugly.
QFT. There's just so much truth in that. I prefer to call it "Hell March".Furburt said: