Why can't i play Nazi's?

Scarecrow38

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I think the simple answer is it sucks to be on the losing side. The only way you could play Nazis is to cut the game off as the stopped winning. Which wouldn't feel right.
 

p3t3r

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i think that there could be a game where you can play as nazi but it wound't be the main mode maybe ant extra compain unlocked at the end of the game would work thought
 

Woem

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Simple: the game won't sell. Politicians would be all over it to get the game banned.
Imagine this: http://www.switched.com/2007/12/10/german-politician-sues-wikipedia-over-nazi-symbolism
 

Custard_Angel

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The Nazi's are just too iconic as super villains. Theres no reason not to keep this trend.

A game like that may be interesting, but theres no reason for its existence.

A Nazi version of Call of Duty would just be Call of Duty... No difference.
 

Azhrarn-101

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Mojave said:
We have all seen the many many MANY WWII games in which we play as either the allies or the sovjets. But why are there so few games in which i can play as the Nazi's?

The ethical/political discussion aside, war is hell, for both sides. The Allies weren't fighting demons, the Axis suffered a great deal as well. And i think it's about time we gave Hans in the trench a little bit more of a human face.
May I introduce you to the following game then: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad [http://kotaku.com/5333962/red-orchestra-2-heroes-of-stalingrad-screens/gallery/]

The campaign is from the Nazi point of view.
 

WhackySacky

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Seeing as im irish and we weren't a part of WWII directly id buy the game.
in the media the germans of that era as evil but no one i know really cares anymore
and to be honest alot of people here would like to be the germans fighting the british because of obvious reasons or even the americans cause it'd be a nice change of pace.
 

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A German soldier that rebelled against, and was ultimately betrayed by, the Nazis would work perfectly. Think about it.

Man works for "organization" that has questionable business practices.
Man grows suspicious of superiors, actions of his superiors.
Superiors realize that he is a threat to everyone ever, send all his old friends to kill him.
Man is cast as bulletproof and rugged hero who is fighting to preserve the little sanity left in this crazy world.
Allies arrive to blow things up for finale in last level.

Obviously, you aren't actually playing as a Nazi, but I think this would sell like hotcakes.
Especially if it smelled like hotcakes.
 

similar.squirrel

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I seem to recall being able to play as the Axis side in COD5 multiplayer...

I don't think a campaign would go down very well at all.
Know I wouldn't play it.
 

notsosavagemessiah

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it's very true, it's the ethical reasons that keep people from allowing you to play as nazis. What they did was horrendous, and while it's true that was is in fact terrible on all sides, people don't like to give human faces to our enemies. If we do that, we might just illuminate the fact that while we did the right thing during WWII, it was by no means a noble endeavor. It was violent, bloody and traumatic for everybody involved. This simply doesn't jive with people and therefore would never sell. However, if you want to see a movie about the human cost of war from the other side, i would recommend the excellent movie "LETTERS FROM IWO JIMA". It's a harrowing reminder that despite the propaganda on both sides, there are good and bad people on all sides, and above all, that there is absolutely nothing glorious about war, and it takes a toll on us all.
 

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Motti said:
Mojave said:
We have all seen the many many MANY WWII games in which we play as either the allies or the sovjets. But why are there so few games in which i can play as the Nazi's?

The ethical/political discussion aside, war is hell, for both sides. The Allies weren't fighting demons, the Axis suffered a great deal as well. And i think it's about time we gave Hans in the trench a little bit more of a human face.
Because the nazi's were clearly evil and weren't really human. We should do nothing to change this image and apply it to modern Germany.
I don't actually think this (sarcasm doesn't come across too well on the interwebz), but many people do. If there was a shooter made with a nazi character that wasn't a defecting love interest for the main hero (let alone, god forbid a playable character), it would quickly go the way of six days in fallujah. We all know how well that went.
I suppose it's kind of sad that this sort of view limits the areas that videogames can go, but that's life for you. People are stupid.
What do you mean "the way of Six Days in Fallujah" was that dropped or something?
Wait I've got a good reason though for why we shouldn't make a game like this. Watch the Twilight Zone episode "Deaths-Head Revisited".
 

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Glefistus said:
Mojave said:
i think it's about time we gave Hans in the trench a little bit more of a human face.
I agree, both sides of my family fought for the Nazi regime, and media like "Inglorious Bastards" makes me want to strangle the writers, I can guarantee most of the Nazi soldiers were either indoctrinated ot did not want to fight for the regime at all, but rather were forced.
I believe Inglorious Bastards is going to feature likeable Nazi's
 

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Mojave said:
But why are there so few games in which i can play as the Nazi's?
I quote you because you started the threat, but it goes out to almost everyone in here:

I'm quite offended by you guys calling every german soldier a Nazi. My Grandfather and two of his brothers did fight in WWII in the Wehrmacht. They were not partymembers and after reading letters and (my grandfathers) diary, they didn't fight for Hitler or the party as well.

A third brother was a party-member, he was in the SS and yes, he was a Nazi.
But your everyday german Wehrmacht-grunt fought because he either believed he was defending germany (and his family) or because he had to.

"History is written by the winner" is correct, but at least try to get it right.
 

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KingPiccolOwned said:
What do you mean "the way of Six Days in Fallujah" was that dropped or something?
Dropped, stomped on, then set on fire and thrown in the bin.
And going out of business too at this rate.

Six Days in Fallujah Publisher: "We're Surrounded" [http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/08/06/six-days-fallujah-publisher-quotwe039re-surroundedquot]
 

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Well you can't play as Nazis because the grammar variety are going to murder you.

Sorry. I didn't mean to do that.

Anyway, on topic: In the Call of Duty: World at War multiplayer you can play as Nazis, but that's not much really. I suppose no developer is going to make a game where you play as a Nazi because they fear the fallout it would bring. A game featuring playable Nazis would be like Christmas for Jack Thompson, regardless of what was actually in the game, story-wise. It would be denounced as a method of getting kids to sympathize with Nazis and undermine the interests of America.

It would not be a good idea on the part of the dev team.
 

gregman_pl

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Nazis are bad, m'kay ?

The reason, I think, is than playing Nazis would make you symphatise with them to some extent, and you shouldn't do that, because they're bad ... m'key ?
 

Azhrarn-101

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bernthalbob616 said:
Anyway, on topic: In the Call of Duty: World at War multiplayer you can play as Nazis, but that's not much really. I suppose no developer is going to make a game where you play as a Nazi because they fear the fallout it would bring. A game featuring playable Nazis would be like Christmas for Jack Thompson, regardless of what was actually in the game, story-wise. It would be denounced as a method of getting kids to sympathize with Nazis and undermine the interests of America.

It would not be a good idea on the part of the dev team.
I'll repeat what I said towards the top of the page then.

"May I introduce you to the following game then: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad [http://kotaku.com/5333962/red-orchestra-2-heroes-of-stalingrad-screens/gallery/]

The campaign is from the Nazi point of view."
 

Sonicron

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Azhrarn-101 said:
May I introduce you to the following game then: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad [http://kotaku.com/5333962/red-orchestra-2-heroes-of-stalingrad-screens/gallery/]

The campaign is from the Nazi point of view.
Damn, beaten to the punch... I've played that game not too long ago, and it was interesting, to say the least. Often quite challenging as well.

Specter_ said:
I'm quite offended by you guys calling every german soldier a Nazi. My Grandfather and two of his brothers did fight in WWII in the Wehrmacht. They were not partymembers and after reading letters and (my grandfathers) diary, they didn't fight for Hitler or the party as well.

A third brother was a party-member, he was in the SS and yes, he was a Nazi.
But your everyday german Wehrmacht-grunt fought because he either believed he was defending germany (and his family) or because he had to.

"History is written by the winner" is correct, but at least try to get it right.
Thank you for this.
This is pretty much how it was with my family back then. Goes to show that generalising just isn't the way to go. Many people had NO idea what was really going on, there were heaps of German soldiers who never knew about stuff like concentration camps etc. Makes me sick every time to see them uniformly painted as the inhuman spawn of Satan himself.