Why do people STILL bash FFX-2?
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Because it sucked perhaps? My dad who's a big FF fan never even bothered trying to finish this game.
I can see why people didn't like it after X, and I agree it wasn't as good as X, but I still enjoyed it.
The combat system was great and, really, combat is what you spend most of your time on in these games.
I enjoyed the sphere break mini game too, although I was upset they ruined Blitzball.
After the seriousness of X, I don't think X-2 was trying to take itself as seriously. With that mindset, I was able to have fun with it.
There are far worse games out there.
The combat system was great and, really, combat is what you spend most of your time on in these games.
I enjoyed the sphere break mini game too, although I was upset they ruined Blitzball.
After the seriousness of X, I don't think X-2 was trying to take itself as seriously. With that mindset, I was able to have fun with it.
There are far worse games out there.
I have to admit the first 3-4 hours or so made me cringe (and I'm a girly girl), but then after that the dressphere job system was so awesome and the sphere tablets allowed for "mucho el customizo".Olrod said:
the plot wasn't completely awful and I liked the whole reintroduction of the aeons as well as their dark counterparts.
it was awesome seeing what happened to all the characters after X and Wakka naming his son after his dead brother... well I almost cried.
I loved FFX-2.
definately not the best one in the series but it had it's merits.
that and the whole big secret for acquiring 100% completion<3
-Tabs<3-
good for him...SL33TBL1ND said:
All final fantasies try to do something different.
they can't appease everyone, nor do i want them to. I love that square and now squenix doesn't give in to what people want, otherwise they would churn out boring repetitive identical rpg one after the other.
FFXIII tried something different, people didn't like it.
I don't care I quite like XIII. X-2 is no different.
Some people will like it, some won't.
i personally don't like the new one XIV, but alot of people do, so that's their opinion.
just because your dad's a hardcore ff fan doesn't mean he's right.
I've played the FF series since I was 6 years of age, my first game being VIII (which i still love despite all the bitching people do about it), it doesn't mean I'm right either.
X-2 doesn't "suck". you want a game that "sucks"? Play mystic quest or Children of Mana *shudder*, then maybe you'll appreciate X-2.
-Tabs<3-
I had to sign in just for this. So to start, I'm a huge Final Fantasy fan. I have at least one copy of every Final Fantasy from the original to 13, counting the Tactics games and Disidia.
So I have X-2, and I will admit there parts to it I like. The job system was pretty cool, and gave a nice break from sphere hunting (F'ing Sphere Grid), some of the music I liked. One of my favorite characters returned, Rikku (Since Auron was gone after Sin was no more). I even liked Paine. Now those things don't make up for the rest of the game. Story was carp, script was carp, the first half the game is boring mission based 'Collect that Dress Sphere!'. Why? Cause the game said so was really the only reason I got out of it.
While we are speaking on weather a game should on the merits of its prequel or what not...It should. The game is X-2 (hopes this is BB Code), and as such it should stem off the original story in some way, no? If they could have done that, then I have a feeling it would be a better game. Instead they finished X with the defeat of Sin and at the same time got rid rid of the role of summoners. The only real thing X-2 is playing off is the return to a world setting that raked in cash, with a sprinkling of familiar faces.
So I have X-2, and I will admit there parts to it I like. The job system was pretty cool, and gave a nice break from sphere hunting (F'ing Sphere Grid), some of the music I liked. One of my favorite characters returned, Rikku (Since Auron was gone after Sin was no more). I even liked Paine. Now those things don't make up for the rest of the game. Story was carp, script was carp, the first half the game is boring mission based 'Collect that Dress Sphere!'. Why? Cause the game said so was really the only reason I got out of it.
While we are speaking on weather a game should on the merits of its prequel or what not...It should. The game is X-2 (hopes this is BB Code), and as such it should stem off the original story in some way, no? If they could have done that, then I have a feeling it would be a better game. Instead they finished X with the defeat of Sin and at the same time got rid rid of the role of summoners. The only real thing X-2 is playing off is the return to a world setting that raked in cash, with a sprinkling of familiar faces.
I thought I'd expound a bit more on my hatred for the FFX-2 Storyline while I'm waiting for the next episode of Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt to buffer.
Final Fantasy X told a few stories, but to me there were three main themes running through it: Tidus' Daddy Issues, Auron's quest for redemption and (in my eyes actual main story) Yuna's quest to grow up and save the world. She was still a teenager in FFX and had lived in Besaid almost all her life. FFX told of her quest to save a people she didn't really know and the inevitable sacrifice that would come with it.
It ended with Yuna losing both her one remaining Father Figure (in Auron) and her lover (in Tidus), as well as numerous friends in her Aeons who sacrificed themselves to bring an end to it all. Sacrifice is perhaps the driving idea behind Yuna's quest in FFX. At first she is resolved that she will die in summoning the Final Aeon to bring the Calm, an act which she finds out would also turn one of her guardians into the new Sin. An alternative appears, and instead she gets to keep her life but loses a bunch of other stuff instead. It's sacrifice of a different kind.
Final Fantasy X-2, in my eyes, should have been Yuna coming to terms that Tidus is gone and there isn't always a 'Happily Ever After' ending, that sometimes people die and they don't come back - even in Spira. It should have shown her continuous growth as an independent character. In Final Fantasy X we saw her as an emotionally strong willed character. A bit ditsy at times, a tad naive and in need of help getting along, but strong regardless. FFX-2 switches that around - she turns into Action Chick physically but the entire game is spent pining after Her Man, catching onto anything - even incredibly flimsy things - which might indicate she can get him back.
FFX-2 represents nothing less than the systematic character destruction of Yuna, and the complete invalidation of FFX's ending. How can anyone call that a satisfying sequel?
Final Fantasy X told a few stories, but to me there were three main themes running through it: Tidus' Daddy Issues, Auron's quest for redemption and (in my eyes actual main story) Yuna's quest to grow up and save the world. She was still a teenager in FFX and had lived in Besaid almost all her life. FFX told of her quest to save a people she didn't really know and the inevitable sacrifice that would come with it.
It ended with Yuna losing both her one remaining Father Figure (in Auron) and her lover (in Tidus), as well as numerous friends in her Aeons who sacrificed themselves to bring an end to it all. Sacrifice is perhaps the driving idea behind Yuna's quest in FFX. At first she is resolved that she will die in summoning the Final Aeon to bring the Calm, an act which she finds out would also turn one of her guardians into the new Sin. An alternative appears, and instead she gets to keep her life but loses a bunch of other stuff instead. It's sacrifice of a different kind.
Final Fantasy X-2, in my eyes, should have been Yuna coming to terms that Tidus is gone and there isn't always a 'Happily Ever After' ending, that sometimes people die and they don't come back - even in Spira. It should have shown her continuous growth as an independent character. In Final Fantasy X we saw her as an emotionally strong willed character. A bit ditsy at times, a tad naive and in need of help getting along, but strong regardless. FFX-2 switches that around - she turns into Action Chick physically but the entire game is spent pining after Her Man, catching onto anything - even incredibly flimsy things - which might indicate she can get him back.
FFX-2 represents nothing less than the systematic character destruction of Yuna, and the complete invalidation of FFX's ending. How can anyone call that a satisfying sequel?
It is a sequal though, FF and FF2 aren't sequals, FFX-2 is a sequal to FFX.
From what I remember of my short play through of this game it was just awful. I have to change my dresses to unlock the best dress, every fight?
The game also had no real connection to FFX, it wasn't like you had the same gang all running round looking to bring Tidus back. Where did Wakka, Kimahri and Lulu go? And where did this Payne (I think that was her name) come from? Why does she give a massive shit about Tidus?
I just thought they took one of my fav games ever, released some crap with "-2" after it, took out some people we knew and liked and stuck some random girl in.
I thought "I don't know what this is but it's not FFX-2", I know deny this games exsistance, so it doesn't tarnish my beloved FFX.
From what I remember of my short play through of this game it was just awful. I have to change my dresses to unlock the best dress, every fight?
The game also had no real connection to FFX, it wasn't like you had the same gang all running round looking to bring Tidus back. Where did Wakka, Kimahri and Lulu go? And where did this Payne (I think that was her name) come from? Why does she give a massive shit about Tidus?
I just thought they took one of my fav games ever, released some crap with "-2" after it, took out some people we knew and liked and stuck some random girl in.
I thought "I don't know what this is but it's not FFX-2", I know deny this games exsistance, so it doesn't tarnish my beloved FFX.
One, because it was the first actual sequel to a Final Fantasy game, and it wasn't good.
Two, they turned Final Fantasy into a 40+ hr long dress-up adventure.
Two, they turned Final Fantasy into a 40+ hr long dress-up adventure.
Right,
I HATE the Story
HATE the Characters
HATE the Premise
HATE the LACK OF SUMMONS!!
HATE the sexist and Insensitive character design
However, despite this I Believe X-2 has the BEST ability system in an RPG.
Let me Explain:
--> You have total control on who learns what abilities
--> The Ability list isn't restricted by the Level Cap (Stares at KOTOR)
--> All characters can be specced to learn any ability combo
--> The Abilities were the most diverse I've ever used.
This gives TOTAL FREEDOM over how you want the characters to develop,
want to use guns? you can.
Want to use Blue Magic? Yep.
Want a healer? Of course.
Also the combat was an improvement on the series (pity that 12 fucked it up) and the sidequests added depth to the game.
So to summarize: Story was Shite, Gameplay was surprising.
I HATE the Story
HATE the Characters
HATE the Premise
HATE the LACK OF SUMMONS!!
HATE the sexist and Insensitive character design
However, despite this I Believe X-2 has the BEST ability system in an RPG.
Let me Explain:
--> You have total control on who learns what abilities
--> The Ability list isn't restricted by the Level Cap (Stares at KOTOR)
--> All characters can be specced to learn any ability combo
--> The Abilities were the most diverse I've ever used.
This gives TOTAL FREEDOM over how you want the characters to develop,
want to use guns? you can.
Want to use Blue Magic? Yep.
Want a healer? Of course.
Also the combat was an improvement on the series (pity that 12 fucked it up) and the sidequests added depth to the game.
So to summarize: Story was Shite, Gameplay was surprising.
It was my comment!!
I played it and it sucks, plain and simple.
The plot is weak (trying to find you-know-who only to be let down...), the characters are ridiculous (Sailor Moon transformations?wtf?) and the music nearly made my ears bleed. I have to admit that the combat system is fun, but that´s about it.
If I try to comparee it to its predecessor(s), X-2 looks even worse.
The plot is weak (trying to find you-know-who only to be let down...), the characters are ridiculous (Sailor Moon transformations?wtf?) and the music nearly made my ears bleed. I have to admit that the combat system is fun, but that´s about it.
If I try to comparee it to its predecessor(s), X-2 looks even worse.
They did something different yes. I can respect that they tried something different to try to innovate the series. But they failed, because the game really does suck. Just because they made something different doesn't excuse them from making a bad game.Daedalus1942 said:
I've never played X-2 so I can't really say anything good or bad about it but from what I've seen it looks like it was made purely for fanservice in more than one obvious way.
There are a tonne of reasons why FFX-2 is a legitimately, provably bad game (brilliant combat aside). But more to the point: of course it's held up to the standards of its predecessor - it's a direct sequel. The two are linked in our minds, and it has to be said that the connection is not simply arbitrary or imagined. They are both part of the same continuing storyline, set on the same worlds with some of the same characters.
Further clarification: you'll not find many who hate FFX-2 purely because it's different from FFX. Some, sure, because there are always idiots in every crowd, but not many. We're Final Fantasy fans. We follow a series which has always strived to make their games different from each other. We know the drill. Please don't try and use the difference between these two particular titles as some sort of magic deflector shield for valid criticism.
Further clarification: you'll not find many who hate FFX-2 purely because it's different from FFX. Some, sure, because there are always idiots in every crowd, but not many. We're Final Fantasy fans. We follow a series which has always strived to make their games different from each other. We know the drill. Please don't try and use the difference between these two particular titles as some sort of magic deflector shield for valid criticism.
In your opinion... which, once again is purely subjective.SL33TBL1ND said:
I don't like mystic Quest or Children of Mana. Do i think they're horrible games?
God yes, but someone out there most likely does like them. I'm yet to meet anyone who has but I'm sure that person exists.
Clearly some people (as you can see from above, it's not just only myself) enjoyed X-2 for what it was rather than doing the dubmshit thing and comparing it to X when they're nothing alike.
You're entitled to your opinion, but it is JUST an opinion, nothing more.
-Tabs<3-