It seems some people here think that hardscopers (god I hate these terms) just sit there scoped in until they see someone and pull the trigger. However, the truth is that us hardscopers, defend a position or patrol an area where we can see a large area, and when we see someone, we make sure to kill the enemy with only one shot by aiming carefully. I personally don't care when people quickscope, but what does bother me is when people say very mean things to me for hardscoping them when I don't get bothered by the fact that they 'double tap y 720 grizz fakie knife whatever spin shot zero gravity silent super shot'
why does everyone expect all snipers to quickscope?
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Because, as my dear friend DSK has pointed out to me several times, you are expected to play at the game's pace, not your own. You'll do much better if you let the enemy come to you rather than running around like an idiot. Unfortunately, other players see that kind of tactical thinking and on-the-fly strategizing as unfair because they don't think they can do it. MW2 is intended[footnote]It fails pretty categorically at simulating small-squad tactics, but hey. Points for the effort.[/footnote] to simulate small-squad tactics, but suffers from a tendency towards lone-wolf syndrome (rewarding risky actions taken by lucky single players) while simultaneously punishing an entire team for a lone-wolf's actions when they fail (in the form of broad-range killstreak rewards like the airstrikes and especially the AC-130, not to mention the Nuke).
This is part of why, in my opinion, Modern Warfare would have benefited greatly from dedicated servers[footnote]The other part, of course, being CHRIST ON A CROSS P2P ARCHITECTURE DOES NOT WORK FOR MULTIPLAYER GAMES FUCK.[/footnote]. People who aren't interested in learning the deeper parts of the game can play on JFF (Just For Fun) servers while those like myself who enjoy the more tactical aspects of the game can play on Team Tactical servers and the like.
Anyway, if you're more interested in playing it slow and sniper-like, that's fine. Don't let other people dictate the pace at which you play the game. You'll do much better (in my experience) if you let the other team run around like chickens with their heads cut off while holding defensible positions. Build a close team of friends who can watch the other angles and talk to each other. My group uses Skype (because Steam's VoIP service is still pretty terrible). You've got to trust each other, though, or it all falls apart.
But most of all, remember it's just a game. You're supposed to be having fun and, if you're not, figure out why and fix that. Happy sniping, Geist.
This is part of why, in my opinion, Modern Warfare would have benefited greatly from dedicated servers[footnote]The other part, of course, being CHRIST ON A CROSS P2P ARCHITECTURE DOES NOT WORK FOR MULTIPLAYER GAMES FUCK.[/footnote]. People who aren't interested in learning the deeper parts of the game can play on JFF (Just For Fun) servers while those like myself who enjoy the more tactical aspects of the game can play on Team Tactical servers and the like.
Anyway, if you're more interested in playing it slow and sniper-like, that's fine. Don't let other people dictate the pace at which you play the game. You'll do much better (in my experience) if you let the other team run around like chickens with their heads cut off while holding defensible positions. Build a close team of friends who can watch the other angles and talk to each other. My group uses Skype (because Steam's VoIP service is still pretty terrible). You've got to trust each other, though, or it all falls apart.
But most of all, remember it's just a game. You're supposed to be having fun and, if you're not, figure out why and fix that. Happy sniping, Geist.
Personally I don't see why either, i like taking my time to get good shots, not a crapload of sucky ones. Also, I don't see why headshots are so prevalent when sniping. Firstly, real snipers aim for center mass, not the head, since it's harder to hit. And either way, the enemy will be taken care of.
As a total non-shooter guy, the concept of quickscoping sounds kinda silly and unintuitive. I mean if I pick sniper at the class/weapon selection screen I assume this means Im gona be doing precision shooting from long range.
When I used to play MW2 with friends I used to snipe quite a lot, which would nearly always end up with complaints about how I didn't quickscope all the time. Fuck that shit, I can snipe how I want, I bought the damn game.Just because you have been watching too many youtube montages doesn't mean everyone has to snipe that that. I mean, why were snipers put into the game in the first place? I don't think the developers thought of quickscoping when designing the game...
i wish this were true but the only people who try to use any seblence of teamwork are "clans" and even then they still tend to do their own thing. the only thing people care about in these games are kill/death ratios, not who killed who wereKeava said:
So... wait what?
WHAT??
I am constantly bitched at for "quickscoping" whenever I play an FPS, but it's how I play I move around the map like pretty much anyone else and as soon as I see someone I quickly line up with their noggin, scope in, line up a bit better, shoot, scope out and keep movin.
And I've practically been shunned for it.
Now you're trying to tell me people ***** if you DON'T quickscope?
This is why I don't like FPSes, the games themselves are a lot of fun but AI opponents are predictable and Human opponenents are all, without exception, fucktards.
WHAT??
I am constantly bitched at for "quickscoping" whenever I play an FPS, but it's how I play I move around the map like pretty much anyone else and as soon as I see someone I quickly line up with their noggin, scope in, line up a bit better, shoot, scope out and keep movin.
And I've practically been shunned for it.
Now you're trying to tell me people ***** if you DON'T quickscope?
This is why I don't like FPSes, the games themselves are a lot of fun but AI opponents are predictable and Human opponenents are all, without exception, fucktards.
Me want!SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
But I agree on the rest of your message:
Whatever you do online, someone will hate you and call you a noob.
If I got time to aim, I aim. People really hate that for some reason, but its their head thats being pierced and my name on the top of the scoreboard.
Pretty much this.neonsword13-ops said:
I put over 80 hours in to Black Ops, and then one day after I had quit I said to myself, "Well that was a shit game" then I thought when was the last time I enjoyed playing it and I could not remember. So, I uninstalled it there and then.
I reinstalled TF2, which I had only played about an hour of over the last 3 years. I have around 12 hours clocked up now and I can say it is the best MP FPS I have ever played. It is so well balanced.
because the people online in COD are assholes. my cousin would always be bragging to me about how i was the last COD player on earth who wasn't a prestige and he could get 3 kills with one ballistic knife and he could throw a tomahawk across the map and get a kill by chance and was, in general, the better COD player. heed my advice: play like a soldier, not a 1337. just run around the map, shooting down people with an SMG/shotgun/combat rifle, don't bother with triple ballistic knives or random tomahawks, or quickscoping, cause that wouldn't be possible (not to mention highly unrecommended) in real war.
Because people in CoD are completel fucktards. Go Play battlefield quick scoping is frowned upon there.
This makes me face palm. The reason your getting flak was because your using a sniper and you only know half of the strategy of using it in cod.Drizzitdude said:
Thats pretty much it, your using a weapon and refusing to utilize the other half. Quik scoping is a big part of the game.
You act as if BF is the glorious game with no idiots or annoying tactics FAR FROM IT. Not sure if you and old schooler like me. Remember noob tubes? Fuck remember the helicopters? Battlfeild got worse the last great one was 2142. Friend still plays bad company and the game looks just as annoying. You have Snipers 300 yards away so nobody could EVER prepare and the aiming is far to easy, i was poppin head shots like nothing.
The vehicle superiority is still strong. Look ever since badcompany call of duty has been less of a mess.
See I used to be a bid CoD fan myself. Until I realized that battlefield was just an overall better experience unless all you like was shooting in corridors. Bad company 2 is amazing, ESPECIALLY for Sniping. The game has bullet drop making it more of a challenge for sniper but once you learn to compensate the shot you are golden. Sniping is any call of duty title besides 4 is terrible and will more than often end up getting you killed or, like the OP mentioned, yelled at for using the sniper rifle like it should be used.Legion IV said:
Battlefield DOES require much more tactics than a Call of Duty game ever will.
Yes there is vehicle superiority in battlefield and for a good reason, a TANK or a BLACKHAWK can do considerably more damage than your average grunt with an assault rifle, and you can't expect that grunt to destroy the tank with his assault rifle. this where tactics in battlefield come in. you need snipers to take out enemies mounted positions and coutnersnipe the enemy snipers and use the spot mechanic to help teammates out. you need assault for Ammo refills and an all around good damage dealing class. Medics heal the wounded, lay down suppressive fire and revive teammates to make sure you don't lose all your teams numbers. And then you have the Engineer whose EXACT job is to deal with enemy vehicles and support your teams vehicles.
The game is balanced. Get over it.
Drizzitdude said:
Yeah, it's so balanced they had to nerf the m60, what, 3 times? Not to mention the game hates newbies with a burning passion. I play a medic, but I had to muddle through for a few matches before I even got the heal pack. And the "Run around at all times" mindset is still in this game, which is bad when you're trying to heal someone and they won't hold the **** still.
And what about Magnum Ammo/Body Armor? I've played for a good while (just got the M60 with the medic, mortar strikes with the sniper) and haven't gotten either. I'm automatically at a disadvantage to anyone using it (And there's plenty of people that do).
So don't come telling us how BC2 is the promised land of shooters, no game is. Every game has it's rough spots, and the one you like is going to be the one with the flaws you can tolerate.
The problem with Quick Scopers is that they tend to not only be A-holes but just suck at it in general. It will be Search and Destroy 3 to 3 and the guy is last man. He see's the last man on the enemy team and what does he do? Left trigger and right trigger at the same time in an attempt to "quick scope" him. He misses and the enemy turns and shoots him like any other normal person would.
Quick Scoping is a curse upon the CoD franchise. Being a good sniper isn't. I don't even consider quick scopers snipers either, just show-offs.
Quick Scoping is a curse upon the CoD franchise. Being a good sniper isn't. I don't even consider quick scopers snipers either, just show-offs.
You can disable sprays and you can turn off voice chat. The assholes I wouldn't know about because I can't hear them speak.cyrogeist said:
That's how I play and I enjoy it just fine. I don't need to use voice chat in tf2 anyway. The preset voice commands has more than enough usefulness for me.
About your actual complaint, as many have said snipers are one of the most complained about classes since their introduction in online PC FPS games. You're either a gimmicky noob that quick-scopes or a camping noob that uses the sniper like the way it was intended. Either way, you can't win. If people think you suck then that's their issue. The only thing that should matter is your enjoyment. You are not there to please them.