why does everyone expect all snipers to quickscope?

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Quickscoping is both realistic and unrealistic, yes, a sniper would NEVER, EVER quickscope in real life, but that doesn't mean the sniper rifle wouldn't fire straight or not be lethal if you did, as the designers of Black Ops seem to think. Also, quickscoping is pretty much only done on CoD, as it's just not as fun on other games, getting that nice quickscope in on someone rushing you never loses it's thrill, and it's not even that hard, as people want you to believe. I managed to be able to do it to some degree in 3 games, and it's a lot of fun to go into a private lobby with my friends and see who's the best at it (usually not me, though :p). On the other hand, I REALLY hate the type of people it brought to the game, the whiny squeakers, and the people who record themselves doing a 540 degree no scope instead of a 360 degree no scope and think that it's some revolutionary new shot technique. (Seriously, look up "Jambi Shot" on Youtube, it's just a slightly longer spin, but it gets so many views.)
 

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SoulSalmon said:
So... wait what?
WHAT??

I am constantly bitched at for "quickscoping" whenever I play an FPS, but it's how I play I move around the map like pretty much anyone else and as soon as I see someone I quickly line up with their noggin, scope in, line up a bit better, shoot, scope out and keep movin.
And I've practically been shunned for it.

Now you're trying to tell me people ***** if you DON'T quickscope?

This is why I don't like FPSes, the games themselves are a lot of fun but AI opponents are predictable and Human opponenents are all, without exception, fucktards.
Well you never can please people if you use a Sniper rifle on CoD because one way or anouther someone on your team is against how your using it and will tell you to go 'pick up a Assualt rifle' for being different.

Though honestly I can't see why people get so upset with a Sniper taking a chance when caught off gaurd or is in close combat by scoping in quickly just because it 'Can' be a one hit kill(I do not agree with trick shots). When you can do the same, faster with more accuracy with half the assualt rifles (Try G11) and it's fine and accepted.
 

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because fuck good snipers.
i sniped a lot in Halo 3 thanks to my friend, MW2 and BO. it was shit in CoD because nobody plays like that. its worse in BO because snipers only have pistols, the crossbow and the ballistic knife, so you cant get to a decent position (unless its Array and you get to the pylon fast)
also, people hate the good ones because:
thats my friend i mentioned before, and he gets a lot of rage from the other team.
that channel is 80% sniping and 50-50 Black Ops and Reach.
Anyone else note that he MISSED most of those shots? At least in RL he would have, he was whole feet off of many targets and behind their movement, not leading, and the lame game gave him the kills anyways. COD multiplayer SUCKS for hit registration.

He got one excellent headshot that I saw though, kudos for that, nice shot.
LOL Honestly the PC cersion wouldn't have given him anything but the clean shots. The hell did they do to the console version!?
 

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philip1228 said:
Quickscoping is both realistic and unrealistic, yes, a sniper would NEVER, EVER quickscope in real life, but that doesn't mean the sniper rifle wouldn't fire straight or not be lethal if you did, as the designers of Black Ops seem to think. Also, quickscoping is pretty much only done on CoD, as it's just not as fun on other games, getting that nice quickscope in on someone rushing you never loses it's thrill, and it's not even that hard, as people want you to believe. I managed to be able to do it to some degree in 3 games, and it's a lot of fun to go into a private lobby with my friends and see who's the best at it (usually not me, though :p). On the other hand, I REALLY hate the type of people it brought to the game, the whiny squeakers, and the people who record themselves doing a 540 degree no scope instead of a 360 degree no scope and think that it's some revolutionary new shot technique. (Seriously, look up "Jambi Shot" on Youtube, it's just a slightly longer spin, but it gets so many views.)
Everyone knows real pr0s use the swiffer scope.

 

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TrilbyWill said:
w00tage said:
TrilbyWill said:
w00tage said:
TrilbyWill said:
because fuck good snipers.
i sniped a lot in Halo 3 thanks to my friend, MW2 and BO. it was shit in CoD because nobody plays like that. its worse in BO because snipers only have pistols, the crossbow and the ballistic knife, so you cant get to a decent position (unless its Array and you get to the pylon fast)
also, people hate the good ones because:
thats my friend i mentioned before, and he gets a lot of rage from the other team.
that channel is 80% sniping and 50-50 Black Ops and Reach.
Anyone else note that he MISSED most of those shots? At least in RL he would have, he was whole feet off of many targets and behind their movement, not leading, and the lame game gave him the kills anyways. COD multiplayer SUCKS for hit registration.

He got one excellent headshot that I saw though, kudos for that, nice shot.
the thing is, IRL, he wouldnt be running around like that. another reason sniping in BO is pretty much impossible: you dont even have a shotgun or smg.
Dude, NOBODY runs around like that. He hit his first target, turned and ran to the right about 12 feet in 1.5 seconds (maybe less - seriously), then when he turned and targeted the soldiers crossing the road, they were ALL doing like 20 miles an hour! Like 4 full strides a second, they looked like friggin jackrabbits.

And yes I know it's the "perks" that let them do that. I own MW1 and 2 and played the multiplayer on both until I realized how pointless and mindless they were, and how ridiculous the perks were. Modern Warfare should really be named "Fantasy Colosseum", because when you kill the opposing team your god will give you magical powers and sometimes take you up to his bosom and let you throw lightning bolts down on the enemies blarrrg don't get me started.
actually, he sped up the video except for the last kill.
Ah, seriously? Ok, egg on my face. MW2 you can run pretty fast, maybe half that speed, but I haven't played CODBLOPS so I just assumed they'd put in even more speedup perks.
 

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Kahunaburger said:
philip1228 said:
Quickscoping is both realistic and unrealistic, yes, a sniper would NEVER, EVER quickscope in real life, but that doesn't mean the sniper rifle wouldn't fire straight or not be lethal if you did, as the designers of Black Ops seem to think. Also, quickscoping is pretty much only done on CoD, as it's just not as fun on other games, getting that nice quickscope in on someone rushing you never loses it's thrill, and it's not even that hard, as people want you to believe. I managed to be able to do it to some degree in 3 games, and it's a lot of fun to go into a private lobby with my friends and see who's the best at it (usually not me, though :p). On the other hand, I REALLY hate the type of people it brought to the game, the whiny squeakers, and the people who record themselves doing a 540 degree no scope instead of a 360 degree no scope and think that it's some revolutionary new shot technique. (Seriously, look up "Jambi Shot" on Youtube, it's just a slightly longer spin, but it gets so many views.)
Everyone knows real pr0s use the swiffer scope.

wow he says 9 kills and 28 deaths with the technique, and thinks he did pretty well. That's the kind of score I was getting when I first logged into multiplayer using the basic M4 and not knowing any of the maps or objectives. Dude needs to quit trying to find a cool exploit and just play his best.
 

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w00tage said:
Kahunaburger said:
philip1228 said:
Quickscoping is both realistic and unrealistic, yes, a sniper would NEVER, EVER quickscope in real life, but that doesn't mean the sniper rifle wouldn't fire straight or not be lethal if you did, as the designers of Black Ops seem to think. Also, quickscoping is pretty much only done on CoD, as it's just not as fun on other games, getting that nice quickscope in on someone rushing you never loses it's thrill, and it's not even that hard, as people want you to believe. I managed to be able to do it to some degree in 3 games, and it's a lot of fun to go into a private lobby with my friends and see who's the best at it (usually not me, though :p). On the other hand, I REALLY hate the type of people it brought to the game, the whiny squeakers, and the people who record themselves doing a 540 degree no scope instead of a 360 degree no scope and think that it's some revolutionary new shot technique. (Seriously, look up "Jambi Shot" on Youtube, it's just a slightly longer spin, but it gets so many views.)
Everyone knows real pr0s use the swiffer scope.

wow he says 9 kills and 28 deaths with the technique, and thinks he did pretty well. That's the kind of score I was getting when I first logged into multiplayer using the basic M4 and not knowing any of the maps or objectives. Dude needs to quit trying to find a cool exploit and just play his best.
Clearly a 100% srs bsns video about a 100% srs bsns sniping technique.
 

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Because people in CoD are completel fucktards. Go Play battlefield quick scoping is frowned upon there.
This makes me face palm. The reason your getting flak was because your using a sniper and you only know half of the strategy of using it in cod.

Thats pretty much it, your using a weapon and refusing to utilize the other half. Quik scoping is a big part of the game.

You act as if BF is the glorious game with no idiots or annoying tactics FAR FROM IT. Not sure if you and old schooler like me. Remember noob tubes? Fuck remember the helicopters? Battlfeild got worse the last great one was 2142. Friend still plays bad company and the game looks just as annoying. You have Snipers 300 yards away so nobody could EVER prepare and the aiming is far to easy, i was poppin head shots like nothing.

The vehicle superiority is still strong. Look ever since badcompany call of duty has been less of a mess.

See I used to be a bid CoD fan myself. Until I realized that battlefield was just an overall better experience unless all you like was shooting in corridors. Bad company 2 is amazing, ESPECIALLY for Sniping. The game has bullet drop making it more of a challenge for sniper but once you learn to compensate the shot you are golden. Sniping is any call of duty title besides 4 is terrible and will more than often end up getting you killed or, like the OP mentioned, yelled at for using the sniper rifle like it should be used.

Battlefield DOES require much more tactics than a Call of Duty game ever will.

Yes there is vehicle superiority in battlefield and for a good reason, a TANK or a BLACKHAWK can do considerably more damage than your average grunt with an assault rifle, and you can't expect that grunt to destroy the tank with his assault rifle. this where tactics in battlefield come in. you need snipers to take out enemies mounted positions and coutnersnipe the enemy snipers and use the spot mechanic to help teammates out. you need assault for Ammo refills and an all around good damage dealing class. Medics heal the wounded, lay down suppressive fire and revive teammates to make sure you don't lose all your teams numbers. And then you have the Engineer whose EXACT job is to deal with enemy vehicles and support your teams vehicles.

The game is balanced. Get over it.

Yeah, it's so balanced they had to nerf the m60, what, 3 times? Not to mention the game hates newbies with a burning passion. I play a medic, but I had to muddle through for a few matches before I even got the heal pack. And the "Run around at all times" mindset is still in this game, which is bad when you're trying to heal someone and they won't hold the **** still.

And what about Magnum Ammo/Body Armor? I've played for a good while (just got the M60 with the medic, mortar strikes with the sniper) and haven't gotten either. I'm automatically at a disadvantage to anyone using it (And there's plenty of people that do).

So don't come telling us how BC2 is the promised land of shooters, no game is. Every game has it's rough spots, and the one you like is going to be the one with the flaws you can tolerate.
So your complaining that players who have played more, and have earned more, have more options than you? Of course they will, if there was no difference between a level 1 assault and a level 20 assault why would people keep striving to be better? It takes almost no time at all to level up the first few levels of any class, which is what is necessary to get some of the fundamentals to that class.

also, because I mentioned that sniping is more suitable in Bad Company 2 than it is in Call of Duty you seem to go ahead and start assuming that I thought Bad company 2 was the holy grail of gaming.

Note:
Body Armor: Reduces damage of each bullet by 25%
Magnum rounds: Increases the damage of each bullet by 25%

Now lets keep in mind this fact, say a machine gun does 1 (it doesn't but hypothetically)damage per bullet, this means that instead each bullet would do 1.25 damage, not much of an increase in potential. The same goes for Body armor what you are really doing is making it so that every fourth shot you have stopped about the equivelent of one bullets worth of damage. The most effect you are going to get out of these items come from the weapons that do high damage per bullet, such as a sniper rifle or shotgun. Even with Magnum ammo a sniper rifle will not 1 shot kill any full healthed player, so please do not act as if these specials somehow unbalnce the game I prefer using a red dot + marksman upgrade over magnum ammo and I manage to keep people just fine.

Extra note: In the regard of bringing up weapon nerfs, you being the one defending Call of Duty has have no right to talk. Weapons are constantly updated in call of duty in order to make a game more balanced. That is simply how games work, I remember when the galil was obviously the most overpowered assault rifle in Black Ops before it was nerfed as well.
 

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I ask because yesterday i played MW2(because i felt like it) and i felt like sniping (because i wanted to get everything for every gun because my dipshit freind made me level 70 10th -_- )anyway so i sniped i did pretty good got a few challanges for the first sniper rifle then one game i played against a "clan" of complete assholes (who also sucked)anyway after the first game against them (useing my sniper rifle) when we got back to the lobby pretty much all of them said i sucked because i couldn't quickscope (which i cant) and then challenged me to 1v1s
so i quit that game and joined a few more games short story short i got about 5 more 1v1s and about 10 more "you suck" messages. so yeah why does everyone (at least in CoD) think every sniper has to quickscope?
also sorry for spelling errors this compter i'm on doesn't have spellcheck
EDIT: maybe i should note that i played bad company 2
i just got bored because had everything
EDIT: oh an i play TF2.
Xbox kiddies?
Sounds about right. About the only way they can do something to get past an inferior control set up.
They believe they are the sauce because they can abuse an ingame mechanic.
 

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"DUR DUR DURRRR YOURE HARDSCOPIN DURP DUERRPP, CANT QUICKSCOPEZ LIKE ME YOU FUCKIN TRYHARD IM LEE-JIT."
Is what I have to deal with most of the fuckin' time.
I feel your pain though man, it's so damn stupid.
philip1228 said:
Quickscoping is both realistic and unrealistic, yes, a sniper would -snips-
Thats a damn fine avatar sir, damn fine XD!
 
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Because MW2 is a dumb game online.

Oddly enough it's hard to acctually camp on CoD games in general due to the map design that is more for close quarter combat, but bottom line is quickscoping is the most retarded tryhard nonsense that I have ever seen in a competetive game (if you could consider MW2 a competetive game).

Yes, you can have quickscoping. Quickscoping is fine! But it bugs me to no end when people act like 13 year old scrubs just because you use the sniper as it was intended.

It reminds me of those mashing tards on street fighter 4 who get really salty after losing a match because I don't want to rush down someone and think that blocking is overrated.

Okay that's only happened to me once, I can imagine anyone who sends a message to me online on street fighter acting like that is probably a CoD player.
Wow, did you use the word 'tryhard'? What the fuck does that ever mean? Every time someone says that someones beloved dog is diagnosed with bone marrow cancer. And then tun over by a truck with a giant ass painted on it.
 

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Most Call of Duty players despise campers. The only way to snipe without utilizing quickscoping is to camp, which makes people associate "normal" sniping with douchebag campers.

If you don't like being called out as a scrubby camper douche, then you should probably pick a different FPS series. I hear "normal" sniping is pretty good in the Battlefield series.
 

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Fishyash said:
Because MW2 is a dumb game online.

Oddly enough it's hard to acctually camp on CoD games in general due to the map design that is more for close quarter combat, but bottom line is quickscoping is the most retarded tryhard nonsense that I have ever seen in a competetive game (if you could consider MW2 a competetive game).

Yes, you can have quickscoping. Quickscoping is fine! But it bugs me to no end when people act like 13 year old scrubs just because you use the sniper as it was intended.

It reminds me of those mashing tards on street fighter 4 who get really salty after losing a match because I don't want to rush down someone and think that blocking is overrated.

Okay that's only happened to me once, I can imagine anyone who sends a message to me online on street fighter acting like that is probably a CoD player.
Wow, did you use the word 'tryhard'? What the fuck does that ever mean? Every time someone says that someones beloved dog is diagnosed with bone marrow cancer. And then tun over by a truck with a giant ass painted on it.
I don't know, I don't play CoD. But it's a funny word to use regardless.

I consider it a variant of 'scrub' that CoD players use. It's usually people who think they are good with their auto-aim quickscoping in their stupid competetive quickscoping lobbies and think they are awesome just because they do game battles, and then challenges someone to a 1v1 if they lose to said person with a sniper rifle.
 

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Prone? Prone is for cowards, hippies, asthmatics and buttfucking sailors. REAL snipers fire while standing up. Hoorah!



MetallicaRulez0 said:
If you don't like being called out as a scrubby camper douche, then you should probably pick a different FPS series. I hear "normal" sniping is pretty good in the Battlefield series.
2142 has very good sniping however there's very little bullet drop and the draw distance isn't what it should be.

ARMA is the best though.
 

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Probably because everyone wants to be playing Unreal Tournament but MW has the shiny graphics and the jingly jangly gunz