Why does everyone hate Halo 3?

[SP MeaslyBinkie]

People dislike it because they treat it like the Nickleback of gaming. But really I dont understand why people do its one of the most revolutonary games of its genre maybe just for the console seeing as I have never played the PC versions and I could go on and list the features that its brought but we have already heard them all so I won`t.

 

[TOFUM4ST3R]

I wonder, how long does it take halo players to grasp Gears of War's cover mechanic? Perhaps you could win a few matches after 20 rounds?

Well, considering I (used) play Halo (busy playing Valve games and Fallout 3 now), it must probably take the average Halo player the most of .00000001 seconds to grasp the cover mechanic, and 1 match to find out the game not about cover and primarily about shotgun blindfire and host advantage. (Talking about GeoW1 here.)

 

[bmf185]

I sat down to play it on my friend's 360 that has no hard drive (so I had to play it through in one sitting), and a few hours later I left because I had finished it. Where is the epic game that I was promised? The bad thing about installments of a series is that they generally have to kick the previous one's ass or they will feel like...well...an installment in a series. That, and it was juxtaposed against an all-around awesome game with creative gameplay and an original storyline. Yes, I AM talking about Bioshock.

 

[INF1NIT3 D00M]

I wonder, how long does it take halo players to grasp Gears of War's cover mechanic? Perhaps you could win a few matches after 20 rounds?

Well, considering I (used) play Halo (busy playing Valve games and Fallout 3 now), it must probably take the average Halo player the most of .00000001 seconds to grasp the cover mechanic, and 1 match to find out the game not about cover and primarily about shotgun blindfire and host advantage. (Talking about GeoW1 here.)

Well, I WAS trying to mess with drollins32 because he has views different to mine, but it seems that between TOFUM4ST3R and Eldritch Warlord I am doomed to be endlessly quoted and my parades sentenced to be rained upon.
TOFUM4ST3R, your quote was particularly sobering. I could almost hear the whiny 5th grade two-little-kids-arguing-over-games voice with which that post was written.
In response, I say:
NUH-UH! Halo sucks! I got a million billion kills in one round of gears on my first try. youre just a big stupid head! Ima go tell my mom on you!
Now, being (a little) more rational:
I played Gears of War until the disc cried for me to stop, and never once did I come across anything resembling a host advantage. Also, the definition seems to change from person to person.

And now to continue making my point that Halo is Teh UNkool and that GEarZ ROXXoRz!:
Halo is nowhere near as balanced as Gears of war is, and I found that tweaking weapon spawns in Gears of War is much faster and easier. The bare-bones layout of the multiplayer in gears trumps Halo any day because there is a perfect balance of weapons, spawn points, and map symmetry. The maps are asymmetrical, but with enough similarities to be fair to both sides. spawn locations switch each round, and all players spawn with enough weapons to last the round and no weapon REALLY beats another, much like rock paper scissors. When you look at halo, there is serious overkill in everything. Youre unstoppable in campaign mode and when you go online that makes the game into something of a race for the biggest gun. It seems that skill factors in less than in other games, because regardless of skill, whoever gets to rocketspawn first, wins.

I think it all comes down to simplicity. many people on here have said that Halo is simpler than other games, and Im starting to believe it. In CoD4 you need to think tactically, using the environment and whatever weapons you have to achieve a goal. In gears, you need to work as a squad to win. In Rainbow six vegas, you need to be a better swat team to win (honestly I usually play terrorist hunt and dont play deathmatch very often). All these games require constant thinking and input, and Halo simply doesnt work that way. I think people go into the game expecting a First Person Shooter in which tactics are necessary to win. Instead, Halo is a Ferst Persun Shutr with an emphasis on teabagging. You dont need intelligence, you need firepower. You dont need strategy, you need reflexes. Its a game rather than a simulated battlefield. I think that people go into it being told that Halo is a great shooter, which it might be, but nobody tells them what KIND of shooter it is. I think that deep down this is what disappoints people.

Myself however, Im crap at it. Im TERRIBLE at Halo 3. I invite you to look up my stats, its pathetic. I think that also has a big effect on my view of Halo. Here is this genre at which Im usually very proficient, but one game continues to mock me and cause me to question my abilities. How could I not hate that which makes me question my gaming identity? If a guy who calls himself INF1NIT3 D00M (to make up for my masculinity, Im told) cant get a kill in Halo 3, does it really matter If he is a beast at Call of Duty 4? I would say yes, but in the end, Halo is the one game I cannot master, a little pet peeve I choose to ignore and ridicule...

 

[ffxfriek]

i love halo 3 best game ever. first video game for xbox i played

 

[Repulsionary]

I think it just gets too much hype. When Halo came out, it was awesome. It was unique, it was spiffy. I had fun being the cannon fodder of the matches. Sniper matches in particular killed me, but in large maps, I was proficient with a tank to the point that I could hold my own.
Then Halo 2 came out. Okay, it's pretty much the same thing as Halo. Sure, it's a little different. Different levels, slightly different plot, a few additions...but it was pretty much the same.
And then Halo 3 came along. Pretty much the same thing as the previous two, a few extra knobs and gauges added on to make it look cool, and a graphical upgrade, but there wasn't really enough to warrant its seemingly endless perfect scores. Sure, it would get a high grade because it was still the unique Halo, but it was pretty much just Halo.
I've never been able to play campaign mode in any of the games for very long. It just bores me to tears. But, my friends enjoy it. They've admitted themselves that it isn't the best game in the world, but it's fun for them.
To me, it's just the same game stamped out three times in different colored ink.

 

[GreenDevilJF]

It is considered average and simplistic, which confuses me since every shooter is simplistic. If Halo is average than I am not really sure what good is supposed to be.

 

[P1p3s]

my opinion may carry as much gravitas because Halo 3 is the first Halo game I have played, I didn't think it sucked, it was a bit short, my hubby and I completed it over crimbo but I didn't hate it.

I realise I should go back and play the original now - anyone think there is no point?

 

[Yokai]

Well, I don't hate it, but like everyone else says, it's nothing special. It's just a generic FPS with a generic sci-fi storyline and generic weapons. That's not a problem, but it failed at being as immersive as Half-Life 2 or as original as Bioshock or as realistic as Call of Duty 4. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it, but it doesn't break any new ground. Still fun though.

 

[Wargamer]

Not Halo 3 per se, but the Halotards (specifically, the ones I encountered on Halo 2) drove me away from online gaming.

It came as a hell of a shock to me when I finally took the plunge on the PS3 and began actively engaging in online multiplayer via Metal Gear Online and, now, Resistance 2. Contrary to the crap I'd put up with over Xbox Live at a friend's house, people on PSN weren't all inbred douchebags!

Put simply, Halo convinced me only retarded arse-holes played Online. Amusingly, Resistance 2 finally crushed that notion, proving yet again the PS3 is superior.

 

[Tonimata]

Halos 1 and 2 were good, deep storied, and very well ambiented whilst having a good weapon array that brought innovations to our FPS life. Halo 3 however, is WAY too focused on the multiplayer. The campaign is multiplayer, the deathmatches are WAY TOO OVERHYPED. Christ, even the cinema is multiplayer. Perhaps if they had cut down on this aspect, Halo 3 would have been a greater success than it already was/is.
The multiplayer, on the other hand, has been polished to the point of reflecting the dimmest light as a disintegrating laser. Nothing about the Halo 3 multiplayer seems to be entirely wrong, and the balance between the weaponry is crazily well tweaked out. What's more surprising is that they did it on the first go, which as far as FPS go, and we all know that, it must be worth some sort of achievement alright. People should really start appreciating the good things in gaming more.

 

[ThePlasmatizer]

One of the things I don't like is the controls, since I play CoD I usually expect to hit what I shoot with minimal fuss.

But the major reason I don't like Halo 3 is the community. It has to be up their with the worst I've encountered.

I rarely play it online unless it's with my friends.

 

[Ultrajoe]

I just keep laughing at the people who call it unintuitive.

Really? Halo is unintuitive? Go look up the meaning of that word will you? Try to scrape some of your liquefied credibility off the floor.

I dont give a shit about Halo, but it's a game that anyone can play and that's why it sold out the ass. It Oozes Intuitive-nuggets out of its disc-drive and onto your floor where they will almost play the game for you. Learn what you're saying before you trust in the bandwagon to remove actual effort from your to-do list, and this goes for both sides.

 

[Rad_Brad]

Everyone hates it because everyone likes it.

 

[Griffolion]

Sorry, havent read all replies, just the first few posts.

In response to the original question...

People think Halo 3 sucks only proportionally to how much hype and BS it was given by Microsoft. Most major game review institutions both online and in the press gave it 9 or 10 out of 10 but us gamers arent stupid and knew they were obviously taking some sort of bribe from MS for the score.

An Australian magazine gave Halo 3 6 out of 10, saying it was an 'evolution not revolution' which is exactly what it was.

As an FPS it works just fine save for the massively wierd difficulty curve and some issues with AI. Graphics are nice and it rounds off the Halo story but it rode too much on the coat tails of its predecessors and thus wasn't up to the OMGZLOLZOOOORRZZ!!!1!! standard everyone was expecting.

But then again i'm not a particular fan of anything Xbox so ignore me if you see fit...

If you like the Halo series, it will have been amazing probably. If you're educated in gaming (of which most Halo fanboys arent), you'll know there are better FPS's around to waste your youth with.

 

[Awesometown]

why does everyone keep bringing this up?

 

[Vrex360]

Enclosed is a rant on the terms of the usage of the word 'average'

Spoiler

I think I'm starting to hate the way people throw around the word 'average' as well. Like it too has just become a fancy way of saying "OMGZ HAXXOR n00000BS SOOO SHITZZ !1!!!!1!!" I mean come on the use of the word average in the context of:
'it's so much more average than anything else'
always baffles me because how can something be 'More Average' than something else. Honestly along with Overrated and Shitkerbab (look it up, people say it) I think the word 'Average' is getting a lot of flack around the web and honestly people are just starting to forget how to use it properly. If you want to insult Halo there are better choices of words surely, average as a description is simply put, too vague because really what is 'average' I mean I suppose the idea is that average means things that are common but Halo 3 was a colourful FPS that doesn't overdo violence or even show much swearing, frankly I find it more mature than most FPS's and certainly not typical of what everyone else just calls 'brown gritty realisim war games about space marines'. Another idea is that 'average' simply means passable which does undermine the usage of the phrase 'hopelessly average' because how can something be hopeless if it is at least passable? I say I'd be a lot happier if people just said 'I don't like Halo as it is not my kind of game' instead of just 'it's hopelessly so much more average than any other game ever' because A. the latter option is very self righteous and B. if you use the former option it at least feels less like you are just trying to imitate Yahtzee. I guess what I'm saying is that it's not the word so much that annoys me but the way people through it around like an absolute fact, and as I've deciphered I believe such a term can never be called an 'actual fact' as it is entirely opinion based.

We now return to the actual post

Right now as I've said before I respect the opinions of people who don't like Halo. I mean if someone just says:
"I don't like Halo, I prefer Call of Duty"
I let it be, that's their choice. I think it's safe to say that different tastes are a major contributing factor to the liking of any game really. Halo clearly just had something that appealed to a lot of people. Maybe it was the hype (though I live in Australia so we got no mass media hype for Halo 3... just kangaroos) or maybe it was the online. Then there were those of us who truly liked playing the game and wanted to see how the story concluded (ME) and I guess that's just us playing what we like to play. But the main thing is that logically there exist people who like different things, to the kid who likes model aeroplanes there is the kid who likes toy dinosaurs and the two kids therefore never play together in the sandpit... that sort of thing. But it's worth remembering that humans (not indivudually but collectivley) are under the impression of self importance and infallibility so that therefore everything they say is right and no exceptions so when something they don't like gets popular they set out to destroy it. Of course then there's the elitism who believe to rebel against mainstream is the only way to be cool and the people who get influenced along the way... I think the main thing actually is just the idea that if you hear something that supports your position, you will obey it and follow it's every word. Low and behold these people who don't like Halo make reviews bashing it and accusations of following the mainstream follow which attracts the elitists, people gain celebrity status's and earn a lot of people listening because they think that some random person bashing a game automatically makes them (haters and elitists) right and finally the fanboys of the rival consoles they join the ride and everyone becomes like a flock and among the crowd do still exist those people who want to play Call of Duty over Halo just because of who they are... but they are always surrounded by these other people who make up the flock and continue to march and trample all in the way.

It's impossible to avoid mainstream, these people collectivley attack people on the internet who like Halo then accuse the same Halo fans of the exact same thing and because there's more of them the image is mainstream. All that ultimtely happens is hate becomes mainstream and in the end the people who hate it are just as easy to accuse of blindly following the crowd as the people who like it.
There is such a thing as opinion and preferable taste, there are people who like Halo because it's their thing and there are those who don't because it isn't. But on either side the 'Herd effect' is still very present and will always exist to tear the internet apart.
Opinion is very important and that's why I respect the opinions of those who like Halo and those who don't. Fair is fair and only by being rational can we hope to live side by side.

... one problem though is human nature.

 

[bushwhacker2k]

Wait, why did he get probation for this post? It sounds like a perfectly reasonable post to me...

I think Halo 3 was a decent game, but that's all it was, it was massively overrated and IMO after the first game not enough changed to even make it anything else than a remake of the origial with prettier graphics and a new weapon or 10.

It gave the same feeling Gears of War 2 did, the first game was good, but the second game just didn't add anything that made it anything other than a slightly different variation that gets them lots of money.

 

[Da pyro man 999]

People want to go against critics.Because most people think that they are evil

 

[Legion]

Everyone hates it because everyone likes it.

EDIT: Agreed, although resurrecting this was probably not the best idea.

Also isn't it a little harsh for the OP to get probation when this was resurrected from a time when these threads were not made on a daily basis?

*snip*

EDIT: Easy there, this thread was created December last year. It was resurrected.