why does everyone hate noobs?

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Tom Phoenix

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Baby Tea said:
What we have is a term misunderstanding.
I always figured it like this:
n00b: An annoying person within a game.
Newb (Or Newbie): Someone new to a game.

n00bs are bad.
Newbs are fine.

That's the way I always thought it was, anyways.
This is important. People often do not understand that someone can be a "n00b" even if they are very experienced at the game, whereas "newbie" is a term strictly reserved for people new to the game. This comic explains it well:


Being hostile towards n00bs is a (somewhat) reasonable reaction as they are merely destroying your enjoyment of the game. Being hostile to newbies, however, is just stupid, beacuse new players should be nurtured and cared for. This especially applies to communities where the influx of new players is generally limited as it is.
 

Eggsnham

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realy i see no reason to hate the players who have just started playing i dont get it.....
It's not that being new is bad, it's the people who are new and completely retarded about it that annoy me and others.
 

Grounogeos

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Newbs are just slightly irritating since you have to help them out until they've figured out what to do.

Noobs are essentially the poor playing of a newb with the added "bonus" of the person being an idiot and refusing to even try to become a better player.
 

PrimoThePro

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It always seems like the n00bs join my game, and get stuck on my team, and make it so I can't have a good time.
 

Therumancer

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I think the answer is complicated, and I will try and explain. Ultimatly I think it's tied to the whole intimidation factor of trying to get involved in established MMORPGs that plagues a lot of titles as well.

Being a newbie is not a big deal when the game has just come out, and everyone is still learning or has just learned. However when a server has progressed and most of the player base is of very high level, it can become annoying to have people pester you trying to do content in zones that the majority of the server long since abandoned. A lot of players do indeed try and help new players, but when it becomes a constant low-end presence it eventually begins to annoy people.

What's more, when your playing an established game on an established server, the newbies pretty much want to get to the end a LOT quicker than the guys who started out with the game/server, so they can "play for real" where ever the community is currently focused. What this means is that most newbies generally want to be "uplifted" to the endgame where the majority of people are going to be, and that can take a lot of work especially when dealing with someone his is ignorant. What's more doing it leads to people with high level characters who do not know how to actually play at that level due to never having done all the steps in between... of course with few people playing those earlier steps to learn with, it becomes a vicious cycle.

Game designers seem to think that people making new characters constantly helps deal with this problem, and truthfully that's not typically the case. Your typical "lowbie" is generally a character being developed as an alt to help a guild or whatever, is being played by someone who has learned a LOT about the game, and is trying to move through the content quickly, as opposed to slowly experience it and learn something. To a speed leveling "Twink" a genuine newbie is sort of an obstruction.

Not to mention the simple fact that some people (like me) choose to focus on a single character and generally don't focus on alts, and will be found sitting aroung BSing with people if they aren't doing anything to advance their character.

It's honestly a big problem with the genere, and I suspect one of the reasons why Blizzard is launching this whole "Cataclysm" thing is specifically to encourage people to experience the new content with brandy new characters, and create another period where everyone will be learning at the basic level again to draw in new people. Whether this will work or not remains to be seen.

Oh and of course there is another problem as well, MMORPGs are full of jerks. You never know if that "newbie" is a real newbie, or someone who is sitting around asking for help or handouts simply to see if they can get you to do it/twink their character for them. By the numbers that's typically going to be the case oddly enough. You'd be surprised at how many bored players think that kind of thing is amusing. Heck, they might even target someone they know just for lulz. "Oh hey Therumancer, my newbie hunter thanks you for helping him buy his mount... lulz" says the level 80 guildie as he burns 2,000 gold on a new static pet. Most people have a sense of humor about such things, but still nobody wants to get scammed even in jest... and a lot of times it's not something between friends, but involving a stranger who just thinks it's funny.
 

The Night Shade

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I dont hate them but i think they should play the solo game until they are good enough to play with other people
 

moeller

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I love noobs! when i play agains them :) coz then i can just toy with them
I f*cking hate playing on team with noobs that get me killed. That rehealy frustrates me
 

Macscotty

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i dont have a problem with noobs or newbs, if im playing a FPS, there on the other team then wo hoo easy kills, now modders are the gay ones!
 

Gh0st1y_H

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They're useless, and they drag me down with them.

Honestly, I don't understand why they can't just not follow me and take up space I could be using to avoid getting shot. It's like they want me to get angry at them.
 

Gildan Bladeborn

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As others have doubtlessly pointed out countless times, there's a distinct difference between "noobs" and newbies. One is bad at the game because they're new, but they acknowledge that fact, and are willing to "take their lumps" and get better.

Many people don't suffer newbies gladly, but everyone hates noobs (unless they are one, in which case they hate all the other noobs), as the noobs aren't bad at games because they're new and don't know any better - it doesn't matter how long a noob has been playing, they're not going to get any better or become any less annoying without a sudden influx of maturity. This is because noobs believe they already know everything they could possibly need to, and thus refuse to learn how to play the game better. Suggestions that they do so are met with hostility, earnest attempts at assistance are met with mockery and insults, and the trouncing they inevitably receive is met with inexplicable smack talk, accusations of cheating, and rage-quitting.

It's that combination of doing stupid things when they absolutely should know better, horribly inflated perceptions of their relative skill in defiance of all evidence to the contrary, and rampant jackassery that makes noobs so bloody infuriating.
 

TheZapper

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In my opinion the worst thing about noobs in comparison to newbs is that they will always pretend that they are experts, even when it's painfully clear that they aren't.

I don't see why some people react so angrily to new players, everyone starts somewhere.
 

Eclectic Dreck

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In some games, my success as a player (and as such my enjoyment of the experience) hinges upon the competence of my teammates as much as my own skill. I can only make up for so much ineptitude in a 2 player game of Dawn of War (for example).
 

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I just spent almost an entire splitscreen on MW2 match trying to get just one of my friends with Grenade Launcher/Thumper, and it was pretty funny, because he was just being immature.

So yeah, doing it to annoy friends who annoy you, I'm a n00b and proud
 

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Baby Tea said:
What we have is a term misunderstanding.
I always figured it like this:
n00b: An annoying person within a game.
Newb (Or Newbie): Someone new to a game.

n00bs are bad.
Newbs are fine.

That's the way I always thought it was, anyways.
Thats definitely the best way to put it, n00bs are almost trolls in many ways, always begging, refusing to learn to play for themselves, just generally being annoying. Newbs are just new, they don't know anything, but they're trying to learn.
 

Chris^^

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Mechsoap said:
Chris^^ said:
I don't.. in fact I more depise everyone who has been playing their chosen game for ages and is able to manipulate all the bullshitty glitches to their advantage. Noobs make games fun, whilst oldfags ruin it for everyone
yeah the proplem is that they think your cheating when you shoot im in the back whilest theyr standing in the quartyard and you in a tower somewhat away while he was typeing/talking while not being aple to move for his whining
I have absolutely no idea what you said there.
 

LiftYourSkinnyFists

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Newbs arn't noobs learn the difference.


Newb = New player with little knowledge of the game

Noob = person who can't play for poop makes the game less enjoyable for others and or otherwise just playing to lose or for annoyance.
 

Mawmon

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Because fuck them, that's why.
Why should I tolerate something idotic like a moronic 'tween screaming abuse into a headset mic after a legitimate kill or spamming a chat channel with abuse and accusations of "hacking" when the fact is they are just plain shit at the game they are playing.
It is not something that I would put up with if it happened to my face so I won't take it from some nameless, faceless dickhead from the depths of the interwilds.

Team based kick votes are one of the best things ever introduced into gaming and as far as I am concerned, more games should have them.
 

AgDr_ODST

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Jandau said:
Newbs != Noobs

Newbs are people who have just started playing and are learning the ropes. They want to get better and are open to constructive advice.

"Noob" is a term used by certain types of people, mostly Arseholes and Actual Noobs to describe anyone whose playstyle they don't approve of in any way or as a sign of disrespect.

Actual Noobs are similar to Newbs, except they don't want to learn or get better. They are convinced of their own superiority despite lacking any competence in whatever game they are playing.

Bear in mind that only an Arsehole or an Actual Noob would use the term "Noob" when adressing another person.
this right here sums it up quite nicely