Why does Rape exist?
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I read an interesting article on this subject a while back. I don't remember the article very well but i do remember it saying that rape was something written into human nature and had to do with dominance
I have heard this many time before and I find it rather odd.AccursedTheory said:
If it's just a matter of expressing dominance, why does the whole sex thing come into it at all?
Saying that the act of forcing someone to have sex with you has nothing to do with sex doesn't make much sense to me.
Would you feel more overwhelmed, embarrassed, and ultimately dominated if you lost a fist fight, or if someone forcibly shoved his dick in you?Zhukov said:
Humiliation is just another way we demonstrate power over each other. If I know you peed yourself in the 6th grade during class, and you are humiliated by this, I have power over you.Safaia said:
Dominance in regards to rape? A plethora of reasons really, it depends on the invdividual and their life experiences or mental state.chuckman1 said:
Maybe they feel like they have no control over their life, or were bullied as a child and, as a result, they feel weak as they were forced into compliance. Maybe they were the victim of domestic abuse, maybe they just have some overpowering urge to be in control and this is how they feed that urge and perhaps they were even raped themselves and felt the need to inflict that pain on others so that they didn't feel like a weak victim. These are just a few examples I can think of.
Because people want to have sex with people who don't want to have it.
If every woman always consented to sex, rape would not exist.
If every woman always consented to sex, rape would not exist.
Ah, but you see in the case of the fish the eggs are not fertilized until after the female has deposited them so when the male comes along and does the fertilizing there's no need to force himself on the female because the female is already gone by that point, so your example fails to prove anything. Fine me an example of a mammalian species where rape is part of reproduction and then maybe I'll concede your point. ...maybe.iblis666 said:
A more important question perhaps, why do rapists exist? sure rape is embedded in our prehistoric instincts, but we are no longer Neanderthals and rape is never justified. Rapists exist soley to ruin lives, and more importantly to give us something to shoot at.
I have a few close friends who are female rape victims, and because of their experiences they have developed issues with trusting males. From being so close to people who have firsthand experienced rape, and seeing their lives ruined, i have developed an extremely hostile attitude towards rape in any form. I believe pornography is one influence, and i actively protest against it, i could explain why, but i dont want to write a novel here, the short of it is, i think people see rape fantasies in pornography and think its "cool" or "fun" whatever. I also think its mostly a male problem, i go to an all boy secondary school and the amount of sexism towards females i see each and every day, is appalling. Kids looking up to people like Charlie Sheen and Tiger Woods, overhearing conversations like "Tiger Woods cheated on his wife with tons of chicks why is he in trouble? i think hes a legend!" hearing shit like that really brings my piss to a boil, coming from kids so young who will grow up with attitudes believing that women are there as entertainment and dont have needs of their own, the attitudes displayed by many celebrities that are being looked up at by kids, the problem also seems to be the amount of sexism and male chauvanism in todays society. I try to be a gentleman like my grandfather, who always told me a real man would never yell at a woman let alone hit one, and whenever he watched the news, or read the newspaper, if he ever saw a rape story, he would often show me and say something along the lines of "see that man? hes a rapist, hes not a man, hes a maggot, dont you EVER turn out like that!"
Sorry for my life story, but i have a lot to say on this subject, its had a big impact on my life, and the lives of many people close to me. I understand if no one reads it or whatever, it is a bit long
anyway, rape seems to be something that will just happen, whether it be psychological or just stupidity or scumminess. One controversial view ive held on to my whole life is that the death penalty in Australia should come back, especially for rapists. Some people were given life and exploited their chance (rapists) so i think its only fair they have their life taken from them too. They are worse than murderers in my opinion.
I have a few close friends who are female rape victims, and because of their experiences they have developed issues with trusting males. From being so close to people who have firsthand experienced rape, and seeing their lives ruined, i have developed an extremely hostile attitude towards rape in any form. I believe pornography is one influence, and i actively protest against it, i could explain why, but i dont want to write a novel here, the short of it is, i think people see rape fantasies in pornography and think its "cool" or "fun" whatever. I also think its mostly a male problem, i go to an all boy secondary school and the amount of sexism towards females i see each and every day, is appalling. Kids looking up to people like Charlie Sheen and Tiger Woods, overhearing conversations like "Tiger Woods cheated on his wife with tons of chicks why is he in trouble? i think hes a legend!" hearing shit like that really brings my piss to a boil, coming from kids so young who will grow up with attitudes believing that women are there as entertainment and dont have needs of their own, the attitudes displayed by many celebrities that are being looked up at by kids, the problem also seems to be the amount of sexism and male chauvanism in todays society. I try to be a gentleman like my grandfather, who always told me a real man would never yell at a woman let alone hit one, and whenever he watched the news, or read the newspaper, if he ever saw a rape story, he would often show me and say something along the lines of "see that man? hes a rapist, hes not a man, hes a maggot, dont you EVER turn out like that!"
Sorry for my life story, but i have a lot to say on this subject, its had a big impact on my life, and the lives of many people close to me. I understand if no one reads it or whatever, it is a bit long
anyway, rape seems to be something that will just happen, whether it be psychological or just stupidity or scumminess. One controversial view ive held on to my whole life is that the death penalty in Australia should come back, especially for rapists. Some people were given life and exploited their chance (rapists) so i think its only fair they have their life taken from them too. They are worse than murderers in my opinion.
Plenty of species of animals aren't like that. Some even kill the other afterwards.canadamus_prime said:
It's probably a left over of our genetics from when we were feral, a need to keep the status quo. Rape/Racism/Murder happens when people can't rise about their primal instincts.
I've only heard of a few species of insect that do that and even then it's typically the female killing the male. However if you want to admit that the human race is no better than insects be my guest, I won't argue with you.SaneAmongInsane said:
Two problems with that...firstly, it's at least in part the usual knee jerk reaction to not being able to convict enough people, to punish the ones you do convict more seriously. Though, this is more a concern when dealing with lesser crimes, not such an issue here.Clockworkjester1295 said:
Secondly, if you increase the punishment for rapists to close (or in this case, beyond) that of murderers, then they may as well kill the victim afterwards...nothing to lose, and it might help prevent them being convicted.
In general, I don't disagree, though.
Although, given that 1 in 3 women worldwide are raped ("only" about half that in civilised nations)...well, if you're average rapist rapes 10 women each, that makes something like 1 in 30 men are rapists. That's a major demographic, works out at more than 100 million men worldwide.
Killing off all the rapists would mean killing more people than the second world war...or none whatsoever, depending on your point of view.
It also means that you go past dozens of rapists every day on your way to work/school.
Never a truer word spoken.MasochisticMuse said:
-I was under the impression that this question is no longer allowed as evidence in rape trials.MasochisticMuse said:
-A fair question if she is one, but ultimately irrelevant to the matter at hand (or it should be)
-This is where shit gets tricky, cos that sounds like the first question any defence lawyer with half a brain is going to ask. Especially since a good majority of rapes are committed by someone the victim knows.
-Even if they did, its unlikely that they thought they would be at risk of a serious assault and is therefor just a fishing trip. Objection sustained.
-Sadly, this too is not an unfair question. The presence of freely imbibed alcohol changes the ball game considerably.
Correct a thousand times over; this needs shouting from the highest possible mountain top with regularity.MasochisticMuse said:
A sad state of affairs that boils my blood, believe me.MasochisticMuse said:
OT: lets distill it down shall we chaps.
Rape is a power trip. Ask any police officer who's a part of rape squads, sex is almost never a motivation. It is a vile desecration of your sanctity as a human being and the most vicious kind of assault that can occur.
