Why does virtually every "non-binary" gender go back to m/f?

[Delicious Anathema]

I reckon being trans is the disorder, they don't feel right in their bodies and need change.

The gender roles tied to biological sex have been mostly the same for thousands of years (of course there are exceptions or variations), this modern reversal and mixture of roles has been more of a social construct than any previous gender roles, nowadays you can see the gears turning.

As for bathrooms and stuff like sports, scouts and other differentiated avenues the rule should be biological sex. Bathrooms could even be labeled XX/XY.

 

[Thaluikhain]

I reckon being trans is the disorder

This is at variance with the actual research on the issue.

The gender roles tied to biological sex have been mostly the same for thousands of years (of course there are exceptions or variations), this modern reversal and mixture of roles has been more of a social construct than any previous gender roles, nowadays you can see the gears turning.

That is flat out not true. Hell, we don't see the same roles in different contemporary cultures, let alone have them remain static for millennia.

As for bathrooms and stuff like sports, scouts and other differentiated avenues the rule should be biological sex. Bathrooms could even be labeled XX/XY.

Why? In places like Australia, bathrooms aren't an issue and things work the way they are (on that non-issue). Why should Australia and other places get rid of a working system to replace it with an arbitrary one that won't?

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

As for bathrooms and stuff like sports, scouts and other differentiated avenues the rule should be biological sex. Bathrooms could even be labeled XX/XY.

...have you actually had your chromosomes properly tested? I know I haven't.

 

[Silvanus]

I reckon being trans is the disorder, they don't feel right in their bodies and need change.

Oh, you reckon it [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E10Bp_mPXXA]! That's reason enough to take your view over those of the experts in the field.

Honestly, on this issue more than any other, those who are arguing against the scientific consensus seem to have the unwarranted certainty that they're taking the objective, dispassionate, scientific stance. Such abject nonsense.

The gender roles tied to biological sex have been mostly the same for thousands of years (of course there are exceptions or variations), this modern reversal and mixture of roles has been more of a social construct than any previous gender roles, nowadays you can see the gears turning.

No, they have most certainly not been "mostly the same for thousands of years". The historian in me is crying at how very wrong that statement is.

As for bathrooms and stuff like sports, scouts and other differentiated avenues the rule should be biological sex. Bathrooms could even be labeled XX/XY.

Where's the testing facility?

 

[NemotheElvenPanda]

You know what's child abuse? Parents giving 12 year olds hormone therapy.

You do realize that isn't how that works right?

Right?

There's screenings involved. They are analyzing by pediatric psychologists for possible signs of gender dysphoria, and even if they are diagnosed they don't go hog on hormones.

What kind of regret? When they regret changing because they didn't feel a woman/man when transition was over, and some even come around to accept their original biological sex.

Citation please.

I'm sure there are happy trans people that transitioned, but the ones that have depression/regret/suicide are often overlooked when talking about this subject.

Citation please. Anecdotal as this is to say, but most trans people I know are positively giddy when they transition for the first time, and it's not just hormones and and surgery either.

Youtube is littered with videos of trans people warning about transitioning, there are two sides of the coin and we at the very least shouldn't accept transition as the only treatment.

And there are probably more about trans people saying how happy they were transitioning, as well as videos by professional explaining the process...which doesn't always include surgery.

Also, I'm not pretending trans people don't exist. They do and they have a disorder, and I'm of the opinion that they should try to accept their sex/gender. It's okay to disagree.

Except isn't not considered a disorder.

Saying it's a disorder or illness is not censoring, I'm not stopping anyone from speaking or doing anything. You, me and anyone should post their views in a civil way, as different as they may be. When people start self-censoring because they're afraid then there's a problem.

Except it's your personal opinion against the professional opinion.