Why doesn't Yahtzee try Multiplayer very much?
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You have been judged more harshly.PopeJewish said:actually that wasn't so bad...Blueruler182 said:
...Weird giant fucker...
His reasons summed up for you.
Taken from his Extra Punctuation article: "Extra Punctuation: On Multiplayer"
1. He lives in Australia
"Australia is very far away from other English-speaking nations, which is usually a bonus because it's a lot easier to get along with people when you can't understand a word they're saying, but it does mean it's hard to find decent servers. So either you try to get by on a US server and put up with being issued some kind of strange delayed-reaction gun, or play on one of the few local Australian games you can find, which doesn't offer a lot of choice."
2. Time restrictions
" I'm a professional game critic, and that means I play a new game every week. Sometimes I regret that. Sometimes I'd like more time to explore the nooks and crannies, just like I did your mum. But this is the lifestyle I have chosen for myself and I can't really complain. Anyway, the thing about the multiplayer portion is that it's usually the bit that keeps the value for money going once the actual story, campaign-y, structured part has been exhausted. And I'm not usually around long enough to care."
3. Because there's nothing more to see
"I played World of Warcraft a few years back, and got quite addicted to it. . I got all the way to level 58, but then, like a flicking of a light switch, all my interest in playing further instantly evaporated. Why? Because I'd seen and explored every single territory on the world map. That's what had been keeping me going, I realized - the desire to always see what was over the next hill. And avenge myself on the giant spiders that had completely ripped my booty apart the last time I set foot on their turf. I really don't get people who can play end-game content and games like Counter-Strike over and over and over again. Nothing ever changes and nothing is ever achieved. And you're taking your own time away that you could be using to get to grips with the wonders of the unexplored worlds in the next game on the pile."
4. Because the single player must stand up by itself
"There was a very grim period of PC gaming, the whole Unreal Tournament, Quake 3: Arena era, when the emphasis was on multiplayer. This was thankfully ended by the arrival of a new generation of shooters like Half-Life, which reminded us what multiplayer is supposed to be: a nice bonus attached to an already strong single player experience. If the multiplayer ever becomes the main selling point, then something's gone wrong."
5. Because people are shit
"When you play online with someone, you're not a human being to them. You're just another little mewling voice in the magic box of secrets. If you're not in the same actual room, poised to punch them in the face, only their entertainment matters. You might as well just be an AI bot that swears. Surely playing against an actual AI bot would be preferable. They might not speak and get stuck in corners a lot, but at least they'll never ragequit, and you can program them not to shoot you, and you don't have to pay broadband internet fees for the privilege."
Taken from his Extra Punctuation article: "Extra Punctuation: On Multiplayer"
1. He lives in Australia
"Australia is very far away from other English-speaking nations, which is usually a bonus because it's a lot easier to get along with people when you can't understand a word they're saying, but it does mean it's hard to find decent servers. So either you try to get by on a US server and put up with being issued some kind of strange delayed-reaction gun, or play on one of the few local Australian games you can find, which doesn't offer a lot of choice."
2. Time restrictions
" I'm a professional game critic, and that means I play a new game every week. Sometimes I regret that. Sometimes I'd like more time to explore the nooks and crannies, just like I did your mum. But this is the lifestyle I have chosen for myself and I can't really complain. Anyway, the thing about the multiplayer portion is that it's usually the bit that keeps the value for money going once the actual story, campaign-y, structured part has been exhausted. And I'm not usually around long enough to care."
3. Because there's nothing more to see
"I played World of Warcraft a few years back, and got quite addicted to it. . I got all the way to level 58, but then, like a flicking of a light switch, all my interest in playing further instantly evaporated. Why? Because I'd seen and explored every single territory on the world map. That's what had been keeping me going, I realized - the desire to always see what was over the next hill. And avenge myself on the giant spiders that had completely ripped my booty apart the last time I set foot on their turf. I really don't get people who can play end-game content and games like Counter-Strike over and over and over again. Nothing ever changes and nothing is ever achieved. And you're taking your own time away that you could be using to get to grips with the wonders of the unexplored worlds in the next game on the pile."
4. Because the single player must stand up by itself
"There was a very grim period of PC gaming, the whole Unreal Tournament, Quake 3: Arena era, when the emphasis was on multiplayer. This was thankfully ended by the arrival of a new generation of shooters like Half-Life, which reminded us what multiplayer is supposed to be: a nice bonus attached to an already strong single player experience. If the multiplayer ever becomes the main selling point, then something's gone wrong."
5. Because people are shit
"When you play online with someone, you're not a human being to them. You're just another little mewling voice in the magic box of secrets. If you're not in the same actual room, poised to punch them in the face, only their entertainment matters. You might as well just be an AI bot that swears. Surely playing against an actual AI bot would be preferable. They might not speak and get stuck in corners a lot, but at least they'll never ragequit, and you can program them not to shoot you, and you don't have to pay broadband internet fees for the privilege."
He's explained why he doesn't like ONLINE multiplayer in many of his reviews and Extra Punctuation articles. But to sum it all up, he doesn't try ONLINE multiplayer very much because of having to play with anonymous strangers who are usually incredibly vulgar and rude lowlifes who lack proper social ettiquiete. He's also said quite often that a video game has to able to stand up on single player alone.
I think its cause he only has a week to play a game. think about it. his favorte game is portal, which is three hours long at best. he dosent have all the time we have to play games since he can only play one per week. I actully feel kinda sorry for him. if he finds a good game he only has a little time to play it before going back into the dumpster.
holy shit i just said i fet sorry for yahtzee. how dose he do that? is that how he won over rebecca mayas?
holy shit i just said i fet sorry for yahtzee. how dose he do that? is that how he won over rebecca mayas?
ugh do i have to quote this again? ok. "because people are shit, whereever i go i say to myself, look at all this shit around, im shit your shit the whole world is shit..."
That's what she said?Blueruler182 said:You have been judged more harshly.PopeJewish said:actually that wasn't so bad...Blueruler182 said:
...Weird giant fucker...
He has already stated that "Games should be able to stand on single player alone" and frankly, I agree with that.
Plus, a story is much better than "This guy is different, go shoot him and his buddies until you hit a certain score"
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Plus, a story is much better than "This guy is different, go shoot him and his buddies until you hit a certain score"
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Because the multi-player shouldn't make or break a game. He doesn't want it to influence his decision.
Also, he had a traumatic experience where he visited the US and was yelled at by some redneck that his accent, and I quote, "makes you sound like you love -Explicit-, -Explicit-, and -Explicit- and you look like you like to -Explicit- -Explicit-", I wouldn't wan to encounter that again either.
Also, he had a traumatic experience where he visited the US and was yelled at by some redneck that his accent, and I quote, "makes you sound like you love -Explicit-, -Explicit-, and -Explicit- and you look like you like to -Explicit- -Explicit-", I wouldn't wan to encounter that again either.
Raneman said:
why should the Single Player be shoddy and tacked-on? Multiplayer should always come second, or be the ENTIRE focus of the game a la TF2.
Because if a game can't stand up on it's single player then it's not worth it. Multiplayer should be used to supplement the game and to test the skills you learned/perfected during the single player campaign against other people. A game that is based around multiplayer with a poor single player tacked on just feels lazy.
Also, there are far too many tossers on the internet that ruin games. I understand how he feels, I much prefer single player games to multiplayer.
Also, there are far too many tossers on the internet that ruin games. I understand how he feels, I much prefer single player games to multiplayer.
You do know that Halo was originally STORY driven and not multiplayer driven correct? Also A single player campaign shouldn't be something SHODDILY added onto a game it should be the focus if it is in there. You want to know the reason he doesn't play multiplayer? Its because Multiplayer isn't supposed to be THE GAME the campaign should be THE GAME. Which is what A LOT of people are forgetting about now.Raneman said:
Because he doesn't like multiplayer. That's just his taste, and that's fine. He also takes his dislike of multiplayer, and uses that as an excuse to put forward a paper thin theory that multiplayer cannot be legit unless it is merely a tacked on addition to the single player. That...well, it's less fine, but we have to remember that he is an entertainer, his actual insights are far less credible.
In other news, Dungeons and Dragons, Chess, and Sex all suck because they are primarily multiplayer, with little of no single player component.
Actually...wow. Go read the Yahtzee article on multiplayer, and during the whole thing, think of Sex as being a game. It becomes the funniest thing I have read in months.
No seriously, do it. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/6832-Extra-Punctuation-On-Multiplayer
In other news, Dungeons and Dragons, Chess, and Sex all suck because they are primarily multiplayer, with little of no single player component.
Actually...wow. Go read the Yahtzee article on multiplayer, and during the whole thing, think of Sex as being a game. It becomes the funniest thing I have read in months.
No seriously, do it. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/6832-Extra-Punctuation-On-Multiplayer
I feel that he is a little narrow minded in his belief of 'every game must stand up on it's single player alone' (some multiplayer games are just cheap knock offs or boring but there are also many multiplayer games that are good and fun to play, multiplayer is popular for a reason).
But on the other hand, like everyone else, he is entitled to his opinion just as I am entitled to disagree with it.
But on the other hand, like everyone else, he is entitled to his opinion just as I am entitled to disagree with it.
I feel like it's important to point out that just because you have the right to say something, doesn't mean that they are not completely wrong. Saying he is entitled to his opinion really isn't another, different hand. It a redundant statement of the first amendment (Or just the principle of free speech, to use less of an American framing.) Of course he has the right to say such things. He said it. And now we can point out the flaws as much as we want. On multiplayer, Yahtzee doesn't need any defending to soften the criticism. I mean, its not like he does that for anyone else...Iron Mal said: