Why doesn't Yahtzee try Multiplayer very much?

Kenny Kondom

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quiet_samurai said:
He hates people.
lol to a degree id agree with this (if this is YOUR view or HIS view). Multiplayer can be seen as an extra challenge, or a load of f**king douchebags... i like multiplayer... but even I (INDERLINE UNDERLINE) think other people are Douche's.

If i get drunk and ply multiplay, i turn into the same type. it is entirley understandable if Yahtzee fells like pther people are douchebags online/multiplayer. i am one of these dicks myself. I apologise to Yahtezee myself if i have ever offended him online....

But in terms of personal opinions... Multiplayer can add a lot to the "life" of a game, however, it ofeten bury's itself by either being to long/unaccomplishable or pointless. It depends on your opinion. i like multiplayer, because i sometimes (NOTE.... SOMETIMES!!!!!) get good enough to .... no other term for it.... KICK F**KING ASS at it. when i get to that point, i know i will start to go downhill, and yet i will stilll play it on and off, because i enjoy the unpredictable challenge of a human competitor.

In short, I LIEK MUDKIPZZZ!!!

*Edit... Im drunk.... its the 4th of june 2010... gimme a day or two, but i will answer to anyone whom has a qualm or disagreement to my view.... just please let me sober up ¬,¬ IT HURTS SO BAD!!!!
 

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Raneman said:
Yahtzee is one of my favorite game reviewers and all around nerds, but there's one mistake he tends to make: He'll play a shoddy tacked-on Single Player campaign and review that and forget the multiplayer- which is sometimes the whole focus of the game! If you're going to play Battlefield or Halo or AvP or any other recent multiplayer game or whatnot for the singleplayer only, you are not going to like it very much at all. Why does he do this?
Forget? Ok. Ok. Before I tell you off, welcome to the escapist. #1 He CHOOSES not to play the multi-player because many people are all around douchebags on multi-player games and I guess he doesn't like douchebags. #2 Halo is not a multiplayer game #3 watch all of his reviews instead of say... however many you have currently watched if not all of them, you will understand why. Also don't use the term forget so loosely.
 

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Raneman said:
team fortress 2, counter strike: source, demigod; can stand soly on the merit of thier multiplayer, other games, such as halo, call of duty - while they have good multiplayer should also stand on the merit of thier single player.
Especially since, the way I look at it, from the perspective of The Orange Box, Half Life 2, HL2: Episode 1 and 2, and Portal are the single player modes, and Team Fortress 2 is the multiplayer. So, Orange Box is pretty damn well stacked for single player, even if you don't want to play Team Fortress 2, even if that is an experience all its own.

For my own personal opinion, I love multiplayer mode when I'm playing with my friends in the same room. I really dislike playing online multiplayer with random strangers. I am not the sort of gamer that derives any sort of enjoyment from comparing my skills to a million other people. Even when I do play local multiplayer, as much as possible I try to play it co-op story mode.
 

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I play games to be a part of an interesting story, not to get called a fag by ten-year-olds with aspergers syndrome.
ok, i agree with the rest of your argument... However, aspergers syndrome is often a LACK OF CONFIDENCE syndrome. they wouldnt call other people fags online, as they lack the confidence. THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE!!! if you have otherwise, then i'm sorry, but not all Aspergeurs are like this, and i take it as a personal insult. you may not think it is hurtful, but is is often opinions like this which makes them demoralised an awful lot, and i dont take it as a joke myself. can i ask polietly for an apolgy, as it is not fair to sterotype a group of people who find it hard to defend themselves against everyday predjudice, yet alone targeted stuff like this.
Please?
 

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maddawg IAJI said:
Raneman said:
Playing a game that's designed for Multiplayer and not actually playing the multiplayer portion of it doesn't make a good review. Example: Bad Company 2. It's a freaking Battlefield game and he didn't even touch the multiplayer.
That's not an excuse to not be judged harshly. If it was solely for multiplayer, then DICE wouldn't have wasted their time with the single player.
Yeah, but look at it the other way around. There are a lot of single player focused games out there that have a multiplayer tacked onto them. Is it fair to judge them primarily on their multiplayer component? No, because that's not what the focus was. So why is it you can do that to a multiplayer game?
 

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capin Rob said:
A GAME IS SUPPOSED TO STAND UP ON SINGLEPLAYER ALONE.


Raneman said:
tacked-on Single Player campaign
So, they just tack on the single player later, nice to hear how games are made on MARS.
Baa baa little sheep.

A game does NOT need to stand up on singleplayer alone. Does the law state that every game must not concentrate on the multiplayer aspect? There are many games out there where the singleplayer portion is nothing in comparison to the multiplayer. But that's the norm for a number of developers.

So don't be rediculous and say it's an ass backwards method of designing a game, when plenty do it. Battlefield's been doing it for years, and so far, it's been doing what it does right.
 

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Raneman said:
Yahtzee is one of my favorite game reviewers and all around nerds, but there's one mistake he tends to make: He'll play a shoddy tacked-on Single Player campaign and review that and forget the multiplayer- which is sometimes the whole focus of the game! If you're going to play Battlefield or Halo or AvP or any other recent multiplayer game or whatnot for the singleplayer only, you are not going to like it very much at all. Why does he do this?
"4.Because the single player must stand up by itself."
and
my personal favorite
"5. People. Are. Shit."
(periods added.)
 

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he says that he refuses to ever play a multiplayer game if he can't reach over and smack the other players across the face
 

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Raneman said:
Playing a game that's designed for Multiplayer and not actually playing the multiplayer portion of it doesn't make a good review. Example: Bad Company 2. It's a freaking Battlefield game and he didn't even touch the multiplayer.
And the reason for that was:-

"This was thankfully ended by the arrival of a new generation of shooters like Half-Life, which reminded us what multiplayer is supposed to be: a nice bonus attached to an already strong single player experience."

And I agree, I played Bad Company 1 and 2 and enjoyed them, but barely touched MP because I hate fuckwads.
 

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The notion that ALL gaves have to stand on their singleplayer alone is a pile of crap. There are some games that are simply designed to be multiplayer experiences. The Unreal tournament series and the first Battlefield games for example. They have no singleplayer pretty much. Does that make them bad games? Hell no!

What about MMO's? You cannot play those by yourself. Thats the whole premise of an MMO. Yahtzee has even reviewed a couple. Why did he not bash those games for their lack of singleplayer?

A game that is advertised to be a singleplayer game should obviously stand on its singleplayer alone. However not every single game ever made is made to be singleplayer first, multiplayer second.
 

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Kenny Kondom said:
I play games to be a part of an interesting story, not to get called a fag by ten-year-olds with aspergers syndrome.
ok, i agree with the rest of your argument... However, aspergers syndrome is often a LACK OF CONFIDENCE syndrome. they wouldnt call other people fags online, as they lack the confidence. THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE!!! if you have otherwise, then i'm sorry, but not all Aspergeurs are like this, and i take it as a personal insult. you may not think it is hurtful, but is is often opinions like this which makes them demoralised an awful lot, and i dont take it as a joke myself. can i ask polietly for an apolgy, as it is not fair to sterotype a group of people who find it hard to defend themselves against everyday predjudice, yet alone targeted stuff like this.
Please?
Seconded. Seriously. I get flak for a lot of stuff, some of which is by choice. I don't need more bullshit from something that I literally can't do anything about, and most of the time, people don't even attempt to understand. How many of you people who throw around "Asperger's syndrome" so much even know the details of it? Half the time I see it used in place of ADD. Even Yahtzee did this in the MGS4 review. I do not get instantly distracted by shiny things, damn it.

It's like "autistic" is the new generic term to use in place of "stupid," because "retarded" suddenly became taboo.

(EDIT: Despite saying seconded, I also call bullshit on the "lack of confidence" description. I certainly have the confidence to call out people who try to use that shit as an insult.)
 

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Raneman said:
Yahtzee is one of my favorite game reviewers and all around nerds, but there's one mistake he tends to make: He'll play a shoddy tacked-on Single Player campaign and review that and forget the multiplayer- which is sometimes the whole focus of the game! If you're going to play Battlefield or Halo or AvP or any other recent multiplayer game or whatnot for the singleplayer only, you are not going to like it very much at all. Why does he do this?

Halo did not have a multiplayer focus the main stroy line was very well put together at the start anyway by the time halo 3 and odst came out the stroys were piss poor
 

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All in all it matters not at all what he thinks of the game based on not doing multiplayer. if it is not fun with the "tacked on" single player(which by the way if the games main selling point is the multi-player then the game is incomplete or should be cheaper). He is only reviewing the mechanics and the story flow. most of the time in multi-player you don't have a chance to experience all of the mechanics or the simple joy of the game because of asinine 7 year olds. not to mention if you like it then the review should not matter to you. If"he got it right or wrong" means nothing if you love the game. I loved borderlands and torchlight two games he skewered. I did not change my opinion over his review. he is for entertainment,comedy if you will. I think I rambled a bit there sorry. all in all what is fun is fun. but glitchy messes should be burned. So you as the player choose for your self.
 

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Chicago Ted said:
maddawg IAJI said:
Raneman said:
Playing a game that's designed for Multiplayer and not actually playing the multiplayer portion of it doesn't make a good review. Example: Bad Company 2. It's a freaking Battlefield game and he didn't even touch the multiplayer.
That's not an excuse to not be judged harshly. If it was solely for multiplayer, then DICE wouldn't have wasted their time with the single player.
Yeah, but look at it the other way around. There are a lot of single player focused games out there that have a multiplayer tacked onto them. Is it fair to judge them primarily on their multiplayer component? No, because that's not what the focus was. So why is it you can do that to a multiplayer game?
That's true, but I like to look at Yahtzee as an old fashioned reviewer. Remember a few generations ago when the only form of multiplayer was limited to whoever you had in the room at the time? Back when the Multiplayer was only an extra little thing for you and your friend to play. The single-player back then had to be a lot stronger back then and Yahtzee I suppose never changed his reviewing style. He's an old-fashioned reviewer who believes the single player alone should be the reason we buy games and if the developer is trying to push the multiplayer as the main reason to buy the game, then he'd rather pass. It's preference mainly, but it's a similar preference I have.
 

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Good multiplayer experiences rely on the people you play with.

You can have a mediocre game, but if the community is great, the experience is still fun.
Play a polished game with assholes and you're still not having fun, unless you're into griefing yourself.

Fun multiplayer is outside of the game and not something developers can take any credit for.
 

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Yahtzee strays away from multiplayer not because he doesn't enjoy it, but because multiplayer fears him.