I'm sure this is going to pop up a lot; mine just isn't cut out for running a lot of newer games and it would be way too expensive to fully upgrade it at this point.
*facepalm* No, just no.Adam Jensen said:Well actually you can compare apples with oranges. They're both fruit for one.
Identifying the merits inherent to each system is not a comparison of the systems. It's as much of a comparison as stating that apples are red and oranges are orange.All 3 systems have some exclusive titles and all 3 systems have a lot of the same titles. They do the same thing in a different way. Because they do things differently you can compare them and decide which way you prefer. I prefer to play on a PC for example because I prefer the way PC's handle some titles that exist on consoles as well. I don't have anything against consoles. I own a PS3 with a few exclusives.
You know nothing about cars. People would laugh in your face if you told them look at purchasing a Ferrari 458 Italia over a Mustang GT. I believe they would say such things as "Do you know how much those things cost?" and "Why do you even think that is viable alternative to a Mustang? between their cries of laughter.Even if it is a weak argument (and it isn't) it's still better than no argument.
Actually you can compare those two cars. You can compare everything about them. What one has and the other one doesn't is the reason for making a comparison.
Comparing a high end gaming PC to a console would be pointless. Pointless comparisons are useless. Useless comparisons are invalid, as in of no logical consequence. I'll meet you're halfway on this. A gaming PC of similar price and power to that of a game console would be a valid, useful, or fair comparison because the two would be comparable. Such a PC would still be considered fairly expensive by most console gamer standards but there is enough merit in fact that the two systems would be comparable to warrant a comparison.It doesn't matter. But the most logical way would be to start from a PC that can play all the games a console can play at least on the same amount of graphical details. But you can compare a high end PC with a console if you're going to compare them from a hardware point of view.
Good luck telling a PC gamer with a high end gaming rig to ditch it and buy an Xbox 360. The two are so similar after all, right? The identification of the merits of each system =/= a comparison of the systems. Recommendation =/= comparison. I can recommend a gaming PC or a game console to someone without having to draw any comparisons between the two.Just because you think you can't recommend someone a PC or a console over the other system doesn't mean anyone else can't. I can. It depends on what that person wants from a system, what kind of games that person plays etc. You can definitely recommend one over the other.
Experience. Do you not have gamer friends without gaming PCs? Ever tried to recommend a gaming PC them? Have you not read any of this thread? Gaming PC = too expensive for a lot of people. If they are looking to buy an Xbox then they don't want to hear about building/buying a high end gaming PC. A gaming PC is not even in the realm of possibility to them therefore a comparison between a high end gaming PC and Xbox is pointless. Remember what I said earlier about pointless comparisons.And how do you know this? That no one is going to do that? Where is your data? Again, your assertions are baseless. That way you can argue that no one is going to be persuaded to purchase Xbox 360 over the PS3. Same logic, no data, no arguments.
Xbox 360 and PS3 are similar but different enough to warrant a comparison. On an individual by individual basis, one system very much replaces the other. The consumer either chooses the Xbox or the PS3 or vice versa based on the conclusions of his or her comparison of the two systems. Who in the hell holds an Xbox 360 in one hand and a $1400 gaming rig in the other and goes "Hmmmm, which one?".You just need to pick the right criteria to compare them. And yes, PC's and consoles are similar. Your argument is that consoles didn't replace gaming PC. Fine, PS3 didn't replace Xbox 360. According to our logic those two can't be compared.
Define "do the same things differently". What useful information can we attain with a comparison of game consoles to a highend gaming PC?All 3 systems have some exclusive titles and all 3 systems have a lot of the same titles. They do the same thing in a different way. Because they do things differently you can compare them and decide which way you prefer. I prefer to play on a PC for example because I prefer the way PC's handle some titles that exist on consoles as well. I don't have anything against consoles. I own a PS3 with a few exclusives.
Hahaha, no.Grey Day for Elcia said:Because keyboard and mouse > controller.
It's time you had a trip down memory lane.Grey Day for Elcia said:Console RPGs are dumbed down and stupid.
Grey Day for Elcia said:Console shooters are slow and skilless (aim assist, much?).
I love PC gaming, but I'm just not at a point in my life where it is affordable. Consoles are cheap, convenient and almost always work. That and I have a lot of friends on PSN and Xbox LIVE.Strain42 said:Now, I know is can be a tricky topic, and I'm hoping that both sides here can try to keep the insults and snobbery to a minimum. I'm not making this thread to start arguments, I'm just wondering.
If you don't play PC games, why? There are so many reasons out there, I just wanna hear some peoples.
In my case it's because I spend enough time on my computer as it is. I do almost all of my work on the computer, being a cartoonist, and I also do the vast majority of my homework on the computer. That, coupled with the time I spend just being on the web, it adds up to quite a bit of computer time. The last thing I personally wanna do is add "the time I spend playing video games" to that list.
There is one PC game I own that I really would like to play again (Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines) but ever since I got my new PC, I haven't been able to run it. So my PC gaming has pretty much come to a complete halt.
What an intelligent rebuttal. Then you go on to link an example of one game--actually, an Orchestra and not the game itself--ignoring both that the game itself is old and the cavalcade of simplified, dumbed down RPGs that were created this decade that exist to serve the lowest common denominator. Good job on proving nothing. Really, your ability to give one example with no context at all is great.LilithSlave said:Hahaha, no.
Oh good lord what? Explain yourself.Grey Day for Elcia said:Also, that 'shooter' is an arcade game that happens to exist on a console and is very easy, as the bullets have a pattern and your hit-marker is a single pixel at the center of your ship. If flashing lights and bright colours make it hard for you, see a doctor.
What is the age of a game relevant to anything?Grey Day for Elcia said:ignoring both that the game itself is old
"Somebody has different taste than me. Therefor they're the lowest common denominator".Grey Day for Elcia said:lowest common denominator.
If learning the pattern is difficult for you, it's not hard to wing it and keep one pixel safe.LilithSlave said:Oh good lord what? Explain yourself.Grey Day for Elcia said:Also, that 'shooter' is an arcade game that happens to exist on a console and is very easy, as the bullets have a pattern and your hit-marker is a single pixel at the center of your ship. If flashing lights and bright colours make it hard for you, see a doctor.
Just because there are patterns and you have a small hitbox, does not make Cave shooters easy to master by any remote means.
Funny, have you actually ever played any Cave shooters? You sound like someone who hates games you haven't even played and dismiss them.Grey Day for Elcia said:If learning the pattern is difficult for you, it's not hard to wing it and keep one pixel safe.
That's funny, because I don't recall ever mentioning disliking them. I do, however, recall someone else in this thread pointing out your fondness of assumption and putting words into peoples' mouths.LilithSlave said:You sound like someone who hates games you haven't even played and dismiss them.
So personal preference = fact? Umm, no? And besides at least controllers were actually designed with gaming in mind.Grey Day for Elcia said:Because keyboard and mouse > controller.
Really? Cause I've been playing Skyrim on Xbox and it doesn't feel dumbed down in the slightest. Not to mention all the JRPGs consoles get.Grey Day for Elcia said:Console RPGs are dumbed down and stupid.
Since when did Halo have aim assist? Or any console multiplayer? And you can turn aim assist off it bothers you so much.Grey Day for Elcia said:Console shooters are slow and skilless (aim assist, much?).
Go ahead and point out exactly where I said it was a fact and not an opinion. I'll wait here.Hazy992 said:]So personal preference = fact?
Sure thing buddy:Grey Day for Elcia said:Go ahead and point out exactly where I said it was a fact and not an opinion. I'll wait here.
You don't say 'I prefer K+M to controllers' or 'personally I think K+M is better' you just said it was better like that was a fact.Grey Day for Elcia said:Because keyboard and mouse > controller.
The elitism is strong with this one.Grey Day for Elcia said:JRPG is a misnomer; games like Final Fantasy aren't role playing games, but rather soap operas that pause every few minutes for you to fiddle with the controller.
Rofl. It was clearly an opinion. If you wanna take everything someone posts in a forum as supposed fact, good luck to you. I'll be over there, understanding what subjectivity means.Hazy992 said: