Why don't you play games on PC?
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-Dont wanna spend a grand on a high end one
-Dont really have the know-how to build one
-I like to kick my legs up and be able to relax on a couch - and to the people saying you can do that with a pc, I say.. No, You cant,because you'd have to sit in a pretty tedious position to be able to use a mouse and keyboard..and to those about to say you can use a joypad on pc..no, most of the time you cant do that either..
-In the past 10 years ive gone through about 4 pcs, They all had up to date virus protection and all that crap, Ive only ever had one xbox which I got in 2005 and its given me hundreds upon hundreds of hastle-free entertainment since.
In conclusion im lazy and I just want to play games and not bother with keeping specs upto date,Compatability,Crappy Console to PC ports,Framerate,DRM and all that stuff just for better graphics..and mods, gota give credit for those
-Dont really have the know-how to build one
-I like to kick my legs up and be able to relax on a couch - and to the people saying you can do that with a pc, I say.. No, You cant,because you'd have to sit in a pretty tedious position to be able to use a mouse and keyboard..and to those about to say you can use a joypad on pc..no, most of the time you cant do that either..
-In the past 10 years ive gone through about 4 pcs, They all had up to date virus protection and all that crap, Ive only ever had one xbox which I got in 2005 and its given me hundreds upon hundreds of hastle-free entertainment since.
In conclusion im lazy and I just want to play games and not bother with keeping specs upto date,Compatability,Crappy Console to PC ports,Framerate,DRM and all that stuff just for better graphics..and mods, gota give credit for those
I already play PC
full backwards compatibility regardless of OS
mod support
free multiplayer
option to switch between Xbox 360 controller and keyboard+mouse setup
upgradebility
customization
homebrew support
full backwards compatibility regardless of OS
mod support
free multiplayer
option to switch between Xbox 360 controller and keyboard+mouse setup
upgradebility
customization
homebrew support
Why? Because you say they aren't? Well I say they are. And unlike you I'm going to justify my opinion. I can, because I have arguments.TorqueConverter said:
You use consoles for the same purpose you use a gaming PC. Consoles run on similar hardware, they have CPU, GPU, RAM and HDD. Consoles use controllers that PCs can use. You hook up a console to a TV. Again, you can do that on PC. So what is stopping you from comparing the two? The fact that consoles aren't PC's and PC's aren't consoles? You can't be serious.
Once again we have a case of someone who doesn't know what a comparison is. It seems that people only want to compare two things if they are completely the same. There is no reason to compare same things. The differences between things is the reason for their comparison. That's the whole point of comparing things. And these two can definitely be compared. Combine their hardware similarities with their primary purpose and you have a perfect reason to compare them.TorqueConverter said:
I want a direct answer. Why do you think the comparison is invalid? What argument do you have to support that claim? Because for some reason you failed to mention the actual reason why the comparison is invalid. You just said it is without justifying your own opinion.
Why would you need to upgrade... your PC each time. If it's made for the console too then you shouldn't need to upgrade it. The console hasn't been upgraded for a while. Most the PC exclusives don't seem that graphic intense... and even then, you can turn the graphics down.dreadedcandiru99 said:
I do 
But I'll change the question around and give reasons why I hardly play on my consoles despite having tons of games for the 360 and PS2 (and just 2 for PS3).
Probably the lack of any cheats and what I consider to be a lacklustre control scheme, as well having some really boring games:
The games I have completed from all 3 consoles: Gears of War, Fable 2, Ghost Recon 1, Ghost Recon 2, MGS2, MGS3, PGR4, MGS4. That is out of a total of...60 or so games.
I'm not bashing consoles in the slightest. It's just my personal preference to game on PC.
But I'll change the question around and give reasons why I hardly play on my consoles despite having tons of games for the 360 and PS2 (and just 2 for PS3).
Probably the lack of any cheats and what I consider to be a lacklustre control scheme, as well having some really boring games:
The games I have completed from all 3 consoles: Gears of War, Fable 2, Ghost Recon 1, Ghost Recon 2, MGS2, MGS3, PGR4, MGS4. That is out of a total of...60 or so games.
I'm not bashing consoles in the slightest. It's just my personal preference to game on PC.
Common sense is why.Adam Jensen said:
That a very weak argument. To say a game console and gaming PC are used for the same purpose and therefore comparable is to say a Mustang GT and Ferrari 458 are used for same purposes and as a result, are comparable automobiles. Mustang has wheels and an engine right?
You don't suggest we compare two things that are not comparable, do you? For real?
Also, what baseline for "gaming PC" are we going to use here? Low end, mid range or high end hardware?
For "gaming PC" and a game console to be comparable one must be able to recommend once system over the other. Can you honestly tell someone looking to purchase an Xbox 360 to get a gaming PC instead? What about someone looking into buying a high end gaming PC? Are you going to tell them to get a console?
A comparison between an Xbox 360 and PS3 would be valid. I believe you fail to understand the the purpose of comparing two things. You don't do it for shits and giggles or to stroke your ego.
You compare two similar items so as to come to the conclusion of which item is superior or is closest to your preferences. No one looking at dropping over $1000 on a gaming PC is going to be persuaded to purchase a Xbox 360 instead. No one looking at purchasing a PS3 is going to be persuaded to purchase a $1000+ high end gaming rig over the PS3.
Only an ill informed consumer unaware to the existence of gaming PCs until someone slapped them over the head with one, will turn away from purchasing a game console in favor of a gaming PC. "Oh those things exist? Wow, why was I looking at this PS3 then? This is exactly what I want!"
You don't compare apples to oranges. Have you not heard this before? There is a reason why game consoles have not replaced the gaming PC or vice versa. They can't. The two platforms are not similar enough to do so. You don't compare two things that are not comparable. To do so would be asinine.
1. Then pay 500 dollars for a pretty decent oneHunter65416 said:
2. It's easy. Doesn't take much extra know-how. Just research a bit.
3. Most of the time you CAN do that. The majority of games do support 360 input. If they don't, you can map the controls. PS3 controllers can easily be mapped to 360 controllers so you don't require any extra dongles.
4. You won't go through so many PCs if you take care of them.
The majority of crappy console to PC ports are indeed still superior on PC, though not as good as they could be. Frame rate is definitely hire on PC if you use a decent GPU (as low as 70-100 dollars will beat out current console GPUs by a lot). DRM is a problem but downloadable console games aren't without DRM.
But yeah, consoles are more convenient for people who don't really know much about electronics and computers n stuff. However, if you do, there really isn't a reason to not get a decent gaming PC.
I play PC games when they're relevant to my interests. Which is rare. As I'm not a huge wRPG fan, and I like first person shooters even less(have you noticed my unenjoyment of this forum section being dominated by wRPG talk? I have more fun in the non-gaming sections of this video game site, and I love video games).
When I think of what I love in PC gaming, I think of the fact of things like emulation. So that I can play the console games I love on it. And that I spend all my time on the PC due to internet addiction. And that I love the indie gaming community and games, especially the doujin community. Seriously, nothing makes me happier than discovering an obscure doujin game I've never heard of. I get a lot of the same feeling about a lot of Western indie games of course too, though. Like Noitu Love. Go play Noitu Love right now.
If a game I care about comes out on the PC and isn't a vastly inferior version, I'll buy it. But that's rare, because computers tend to get all the multiplatformers I seriously don't care about and never touch on the console. And if I have any remote interest in those titles, I get the PC version.
Because I'm always on the PC and it's better to be gaming on the platform I'm on the most.
But my favourite genres are jRPGs, Scrolling shooters, Platformers, and Fighting games. I'm a Nintendo nut, Namco nut, Atlus nut, and Nippon Ichi nut. None of these genres or companies are super friendly with the PC platform. I also hate video gaming on a keyboard.
The ironic thing, is that I play loads of games on the PC, but am not anywhere close to being a "PC gamer".
When I think of what I love in PC gaming, I think of the fact of things like emulation. So that I can play the console games I love on it. And that I spend all my time on the PC due to internet addiction. And that I love the indie gaming community and games, especially the doujin community. Seriously, nothing makes me happier than discovering an obscure doujin game I've never heard of. I get a lot of the same feeling about a lot of Western indie games of course too, though. Like Noitu Love. Go play Noitu Love right now.
If a game I care about comes out on the PC and isn't a vastly inferior version, I'll buy it. But that's rare, because computers tend to get all the multiplatformers I seriously don't care about and never touch on the console. And if I have any remote interest in those titles, I get the PC version.
Because I'm always on the PC and it's better to be gaming on the platform I'm on the most.
But my favourite genres are jRPGs, Scrolling shooters, Platformers, and Fighting games. I'm a Nintendo nut, Namco nut, Atlus nut, and Nippon Ichi nut. None of these genres or companies are super friendly with the PC platform. I also hate video gaming on a keyboard.
The ironic thing, is that I play loads of games on the PC, but am not anywhere close to being a "PC gamer".
Technical issues mostly, stuff is just alot more likely to have errors, crash, or just be generally unplayable and I lack the know how to fix them without excessive research and favors from friends.
A few months ago I would also say its the cost of maintaining a PC with a high enough power level (!) to run things effectively, but I feel like if I dropped out of the console market I could cover the cost, and the idea of only having one gaming console that also doubles as my everything else device is romantic.
A few months ago I would also say its the cost of maintaining a PC with a high enough power level (!) to run things effectively, but I feel like if I dropped out of the console market I could cover the cost, and the idea of only having one gaming console that also doubles as my everything else device is romantic.
Not an argument.TorqueConverter said:
Even if it is a weak argument (and it isn't) it's still better than no argument.TorqueConverter said:
Actually you can compare those two cars. You can compare everything about them. What one has and the other one doesn't is the reason for making a comparison.
It's only your opinion that they aren't comparable. And you provided no argument for it whatsoever.TorqueConverter said:
It doesn't matter. But the most logical way would be to start from a PC that can play all the games a console can play at least on the same amount of graphical details. But you can compare a high end PC with a console if you're going to compare them from a hardware point of view.TorqueConverter said:
Just because you think you can't recommend someone a PC or a console over the other system doesn't mean anyone else can't. I can. It depends on what that person wants from a system, what kind of games that person plays etc. You can definitely recommend one over the other.TorqueConverter said:
Where did you come up with that conclusion? You seen to be drawing conclusions out of thin air. Do you have a valid argument or not?TorqueConverter said:
And how do you know this? That no one is going to do that? Where is your data? Again, your assertions are baseless. That way you can argue that no one is going to be persuaded to purchase Xbox 360 over the PS3. Same logic, no data, no arguments.TorqueConverter said:
So because people are ignorant (according to you), two items can't be compared. Right. And yet again you're pulling stuff out of thin air. You can't simply say "only this and only that" without providing evidence for such claims, and then expect to be taken seriously.TorqueConverter said:
Well actually you can compare apples with oranges. They're both fruit for one. You just need to pick the right criteria to compare them. And yes, PC's and consoles are similar. Your argument is that consoles didn't replace gaming PC. Fine, PS3 didn't replace Xbox 360. According to our logic those two can't be compared.TorqueConverter said:
All 3 systems have some exclusive titles and all 3 systems have a lot of the same titles. They do the same thing in a different way. Because they do things differently you can compare them and decide which way you prefer. I prefer to play on a PC for example because I prefer the way PC's handle some titles that exist on consoles as well. I don't have anything against consoles. I own a PS3 with a few exclusives.
I don't like WASD and mouse controls for the most part. Plus building or buying a decent gaming PC is ridiculously expensive.
Oh and PC gaming in general is far more hassle than its worth. I couldn't care less about graphics or frame-rate. The only reason I would take up PC gaming is for mods and larger multiplayer servers.
Oh and PC gaming in general is far more hassle than its worth. I couldn't care less about graphics or frame-rate. The only reason I would take up PC gaming is for mods and larger multiplayer servers.
My pc is to old and there`s no reason to get a new one.
I`ve heard that some games (big titles) need online to play them.
I don`t want to use crap like Origin.
Some games get censored in my country. If i need a permanent connection those titles aren`t going to work because of steam or anything else. Buying them was never a problem.
I like the simple plug and play of a console.
I like exclusive games. I`m a "console only" gamer since 2004. After this time i can say i would really miss those titles. Are there even pc exclusive big titles anymore? I haven`t seen any.
The better graphics on pc are neat but i`ve no problem playing the console versions. As a pc gamer i had to lower details and resolution all the time. Sometimes my pc couldn`t even run the games. Buy new hardware or f... yourself, no thanks i`m investing my money in a console and it`s enough for the next years. No driver troubles, no hardware troubles, no troubles with getting a game to run, it`s all good.
Sometimes i miss mouse and keyboard. Sometimes i miss the mods. All in all having a console made my life as a gamer less complicated.
I won`t say i will never get a new gaming pc If you don`t want to miss something, having all systems is always the best solution.
I`ve heard that some games (big titles) need online to play them.
I don`t want to use crap like Origin.
Some games get censored in my country. If i need a permanent connection those titles aren`t going to work because of steam or anything else. Buying them was never a problem.
I like the simple plug and play of a console.
I like exclusive games. I`m a "console only" gamer since 2004. After this time i can say i would really miss those titles. Are there even pc exclusive big titles anymore? I haven`t seen any.
The better graphics on pc are neat but i`ve no problem playing the console versions. As a pc gamer i had to lower details and resolution all the time. Sometimes my pc couldn`t even run the games. Buy new hardware or f... yourself, no thanks i`m investing my money in a console and it`s enough for the next years. No driver troubles, no hardware troubles, no troubles with getting a game to run, it`s all good.
Sometimes i miss mouse and keyboard. Sometimes i miss the mods. All in all having a console made my life as a gamer less complicated.
I won`t say i will never get a new gaming pc If you don`t want to miss something, having all systems is always the best solution.
The control set up mouse and keyboard there is a reason they scrapped it with the commodore 64 when it comes to gaming, all other devices have controllers, and saying that I can plug a controller in my PC says nothing it means you have compromised for a console configuration.
From what I've heard it's quite likely that the next gen of consoles will have systems in place at least as bad as on PC currently (using a built in mobile broadband thing to a security server - if you haven't registered the game as proof of purchase, or aren't old enough to play it you'll be blocked from playing the game.)Mikeyfell said:
I only play a handful of PC games. Like The Sims, Civilization, Roller Coaster Tycoon, or point and click puzzle games like Myst or Uru. I never play shooters on the computer because I find the controls to be really awkward and I always hit wrong buttons. Console controls just make a lot more sense to me.