Why don't you play games on PC?

[ph0b0s123]

Have to say, 'becuase I want to use a controller' is not a good reason as you can use every controller known to man on the PC.

And it always works. The way it's meant to. All the time.

This is the snobbery I can't stand from PC gamers. The classic comparison between a mouse/keyboard to a controller. There simply is none because the two are never pitted against each other.

No serious automotive race in the world pits cars against motorbikes. Motorbikes race other motorbikes, cars race other cars. It is obvious that motorbike racers will always favor motorbikes and car racers will always favor cars.

It's perfectly acceptable to say "I want to use a controller" because when every single game on the platform is designed to solely be manipulated with a controller and not a mouse/keyboard/joystick/gamepad/etc, the controls will be consistently solid and uniform. That's not to say PC controls aren't solid, but the fact of the matter is that as far as control setups go, console game developers have a lot less to worry about compared to PC game devs.

The above aside, I find a controller to be more comfortable to hold, I feel that Rumble/Vibration add a lot to a game, and I like analog control in movement.

So someone else who has missed the point. Try readin the quote again, I can wait. It said nothing about whether m/k or controller is better, only you can pick the one you want on PC. So wanting to play with a controller is not a reason not to consider playing on PC, becuase you can use a controller with PC. Also since most games are now ports from console they bring the same controller scheme as at least on the 360.

Sometimes it takes more setup time to use the controller on the PC than on console, no argument and not my original point.

I think someone sees snobbery where there is none, but sure you go on and rant, just try to stick to the point you were quoting rather than something unrelated.

 

[Palademon]

I can easily start a game without having to wait for my console to start up everything.

I'm sorry, what?

Between firmware updates, badly optimised loading and trying to log into a service using a keyboard that's used with the controller, you spend just as much time as us waiting for something to start (assuming you don't solely use pre-firmware consoles.)

Edit: Stuff takes a while to load on all disc-based media, console or PC. You get firmware updates, we get patches which might or might not fix stuff, both of us have to log into services a lot, and now with Microsoft saying you can only play your XBLA games using the exact same console AND exact same user you bought them with...

On my xbox:
1. Turn on
2. Autosigns in
3. Auto starts game if I wish
4. Maybe a 5 seconds update

I don't quite understand the point about having to type to log into something on a console. That's very rare, and if I do I always have a keypad in for messaging anyway.

On my computer:
1. Turn on
2. Wait to get to log screen
3. Log in
4. Wait for computer to finish start ups
5. Start Steam
6. Wait for it to load
7. Click on game library
8. Wait to start up

Edit: It would've been better for me to say in my original post that I do play PC games, just not primarily.

 

[nikomas1]

I just want to say one thing to the people that say it's to hard to build a PC on your own... If you cant build one because it's simply "To difficult" I can only really call you either lazy, or dumb... Simply because.
I managed to build my own, starting from the case and asembling all the parts on my own, from the case > motherboard > the fans, in the end everything turned out great and the PC runs Better than the stock ones I'd bought in stores before.

After 6 months now nothing has failed, it runs cooler than any other PC I've had before and so far I havent had a single system crash, one of the fans might have run into an issue so I'll have to open her up and check that when I get home today, but that's still a good build in my book.

So what is my past experience with computers? Second hand experience with switching a graphics card, that's only it. As far as things I did on my own it had been nothing more than opening it up to blow out some dust once every blue moon.


With that little experience I managed to put a perfectly smooth running PC together from scratch, sure it was stressing and took a couple of hours, sure I had not just the manual but an instruction video running while doing it.


What I'm saying is thou, the point that you have to be some kind of tech wizz to build a PC is bulljunkies, it's really just lego with expensive parts.



As far as complexity goes when you are using a PC, complaining about things like install times and things like that is outright stupid, what do you do when you have a 10 minute instal or waiting for a 1 hour download? You tab down and do something else, something you cant do on consoles.

 

[LiquidSolstice]

So someone else who has missed the point. Try readin the quote again, I can wait. It said nothing about whether m/k or controller is better, only you can pick the one you want on PC. So wanting to play with a controller is not a reason not to consider playing on PC, becuase you can use a controller with PC. Also since most games are now ports from console they bring the same controller scheme as at least on the 360.

Sometimes it takes more setup time to use the controller on the PC than on console, no argument and not my original point.

I think someone sees snobbery where there is none, but sure you go on and rant, just try to stick to the point you were quoting rather than something unrelated.

Ironic you tell me to read when you obviously haven't done it yourself. "I want to use a controller" is a very legitimate reason because PC games are not made with a controller as the main control device. There is no guarantee your controls will work the way you want them to.

Adding further to that, all console players use controllers (with certain exceptions). Therefore, in online gaming, if you want to use a controller on a PC, you will get destroyed because everyone else will be using a keyboard and a mouse because the two are never meant to go against each other.

You just want to dismiss the idea of a controller because your machine of choice has the capability of it. Capability != advantage, a fact that seems to evade most PC gamers. So again, aside from your attempt to tell me what I was or was not saying, the phrase "I want to use a controller" is a very legitimate preference and is a large factor in what platform you choose to play.

But don't let such logic get in your way. Your PC is just super-mega-awesome because you can plug in a gamepad, end of story.

 

[CarlMin]

I can see how people who just don't invest enough time gaming to justify the amount of time and money required to build a PC, or lack the knowledge to do so.

It's confusing though, that so many people say the prefer the controller. You can use any controller you want on a PC.

 

[LiquidSolstice]

I can easily start a game without having to wait for my console to start up everything.

I'm sorry, what?

Between firmware updates, badly optimised loading and trying to log into a service using a keyboard that's used with the controller, you spend just as much time as us waiting for something to start (assuming you don't solely use pre-firmware consoles.)

Edit: Stuff takes a while to load on all disc-based media, console or PC. You get firmware updates, we get patches which might or might not fix stuff, both of us have to log into services a lot, and now with Microsoft saying you can only play your XBLA games using the exact same console AND exact same user you bought them with...

Protip: Use a console before making judgment on how it operates. Judging from what you're saying, you've read about them and that's about it.

1. "Firmware Updates": They happen maybe 3 times in a year. (1 major, 2 maintenance)

2. "Badly optimized loading": What the fuck? What is badly optimized about not needing to install a game before playing it? Compared to the weaker hardware that console game devs have to work with, a console game is quite possibly the single most optimized-for platform that exists. And if you're not happy with how long it's taking, you can install the game to the hard drive for better loading speeds. (Regardless, I can time it; going from completely off to match-made and in a CoD game takes me less than 60 seconds)

3. "Trying to log into a service": This is where it's clear to me that you haven't actually used an Xbox before; we don't have to sign in with a keyboard every single time we turn our console on. You're automatically signed into the last Live account you were on. Not to mention, Live plugs into every single game you plan on the Xbox. There are no multiple services to sign into, nothing.

4. I will bet you money that if we both brought home the same game from the store, me on an Xbox, you on a PC, I'd be playing the game before your computer even finishes turning on (forget installing). We do not "wait the same amount of time". Please don't delude yourself.

5. What Microsoft says you can and can't do with your XBLA games has nothing to do with how long anything takes on a console.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

I'm gonna take a wild guess here and say how most people don't have and can't afford (or think they can't afford) a gaming PC.

 

[ph0b0s123]

Ironic you tell me to read when you obviously haven't done it yourself. "I want to use a controller" is a very legitimate reason because PC games are not made with a controller as the main control device. There is no guarantee your controls will work the way you want them to.

Adding further to that, all console players use controllers (with certain exceptions). Therefore, in online gaming, if you want to use a controller on a PC, you will get destroyed because everyone else will be using a keyboard and a mouse because the two are never meant to go against each other.

You just want to dismiss the idea of a controller because your machine of choice has the capability of it. Capability != advantage, a fact that seems to evade most PC gamers. So again, aside from your attempt to tell me what I was or was not saying, the phrase "I want to use a controller" is a very legitimate preference and is a large factor in what platform you choose to play.

But don't let such logic get in your way. Your PC is just super-mega-awesome because you can plug in a gamepad, end of story.

So 'I cannot game on PC becuase I cannot use a controller' has changed to, I cannot game on the PC becuase controllers are not the main controller and not everyone is forced to use them, so I am at a disadvantage when gaming on-line. Good job on moving the goal posts.

PC support of controllers not being as good as consoles, is not that same as no support at all and then therefore not worth considering if you want to use a controller. The whole point of my original post.

And again please explain to me where I have stated anywhere through my posts that the PC are in some way mega awesome and better than consoles. You may have got annoyed with some snotty PC owner in the past, but that is not me, so please take your misplaced anger with that PC owner and direct it where it is deserved, otherwise you will give console fan a bad name....

The problem is the stated reason. If it was ' I game on consoles becuase it has the best controller support', I would agree completely. Saying I don't want to game on PC becuase I like controllers infers using controllers is not possible on PC.

 

[Yuno Gasai]

I've fluctuated between being a console and PC gamer (currently a PC gamer).

On the occasions when I've stopped playing games on the PC, it's been because I can't afford to keep upgrading my system to meet the most recent hardware demands.

I actually prefer gaming on the PC nowadays because programs like Steam and Mumble allow me to talk to my friends quite easily while I play (if I feel social). This is something which is made more difficult (although is not impossible) if I wanted to be social while I play something on my PS3.

Recently, I'd actually add that modding games is appealing. I've installed a couple of custom skins for League of Legends, for example - they're something which I'm really enjoying, and they're purely cosmetic!

 

[The Lunatic]

Some people just aren't as into gaming.

Some people do not wish to leave their comfort zone in order to get a better gaming experience.

For some, the Console is fine, they don't need higher frame rates, better graphics, higher resolutions, support for new technologies and all the other benefits the PC format brings.

Instead the cheap and easy console format is more suited to them.

The consoles are the Ipod, the PC the Hi-fi.

There's nothing wrong with that.

 

[marobidoux]

It depends on the type of game I'm playing. For strategy games and rpgs where I must control multiple characters like Baldur's Gate I prefer playing on PC, but for all other games, console is best for me.

I also prefer the stability of consoles for matters of game compatibility and hardware requirements. When I buy a console game, I know I'll be able to play it at its best quality and performance. Not so much with a PC game. It's not really the cost of upgrading that bugs me, just the hassle.

Finally, now that all consoles have their own online player base, I can play FPS in my couch with a controller without fear of getting pwned by mouse/keyboard players or people playing with shitty graphics just to get the best framerate. Okay... I get pwned anyway but at least it's not because of the hardware.

There's still the lag issue though...

 

[klovervibe]

I've only played RTS games on a PC but the idea intrigues me. Mobility would be a huge plus and mouse/keyboard controls are something I could easily get used to. Too bad my laptop died. XBox, PS1, and NES for now...

 

[SUPA FRANKY]

Its not really too hard to play on PC. I've been doing it for several months after playing on consoles all my life and I think I like PC better.

There really is only about 8 or 9 parts you need, and they all come with instruction manuals. Besides, I took apart a computer without the use of a manual, because it really is pretty straightforward.

The cost may be an issue, but its not like people don't spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on stuff like Printers, TVs, Ipads. Plus remember how much the PS3 cost at launched? I think its only going to get worse.

 

[Meight08]

Some people just aren't as into gaming.

Some people do not wish to leave their comfort zone in order to get a better gaming experience.

For some, the Console is fine, they don't need higher frame rates, better graphics, higher resolutions, support for new technologies and all the other benefits the PC format brings.

Instead the cheap and easy console format is more suited to them.

The consoles are the Ipod, the PC the Hi-fi.

There's nothing wrong with that.

Just shut up having more disposable income does not make you a more "hardcore".
I hate people like you who rip on console gamers for not playing games on the pc.

 

[Xenowolf]

Mainly because my desktop is absolutely crap for running modern AAA titles. I tend to play more indie or older games on it. Also, I can't afford a decent gaming PC (my desktop seems to have something against saving my stats on TF2 which actually tends to put me off playing it somewhat) and my current PC is fine for all purposes bar gaming.

I could get a laptop for a cheaper price, but I absolutely despise laptops due to the fact that they are so damn fragile. If I could run modern AAA games on PC, then I would probabaly do that instead of buying the console version (and what with the rumors that have been flying around about the next generation of consoles, I am seriously considering abandoning consoles altogether). Ah well, I suppose most AAA games don't really interest me anymore...