Why I am not going to buy Mass Effect 3

[Flailing Escapist]

EA must really enjoy shooting themselves in the foot. Shale, Zaeed, Kasumi and Sebastien were some of my favorite characters in their games; in that they were in my party more often than not. But now its a mother fucking PROTHEAN? Goddamnint, I'll still buy it... but they are not earning any brownie points for it.

This is why EA fails. For them it's about the short term grab-as-much-money-as-we-can gag. If you really want to make bank you need plenty of long-term fans. You don't need to make good games to get long-term fans. But throwing them a bone every once in a while will increase the fans and money you make in the long run.

For instance: take Alan Wake: American Nightmare. It easily could've been just the arcade mode of the game for $15 or they could've split the game into 2 parts and charged you for both or they could've charged $20 or $30 for it - but they didn't. They charged the price of any generic xbla game and delivered more than most companies would. THAT'S the thing - I'm more than sure that most companies would charge as much as they could while delivering as little as possible. But not Remedy. If I already didn't love Remedy for Max Payne Alan Wake: American Nightmare would've brought me onboard the Remedy fan train.

Even if they run the next Alan Wake into the ground and the game after that is really half-assed and silly I'd still be looking forward to their next game. The thing with EA (and thus Bioware) is that they keep pushing their luck with all the DLC that really should have been included in the game, the DRM and other bullshit that after ME3 I'm going to be very cautious about the next Bioware game. I've been a Bioware fan ever since Baldur's Gate but all this extra, unnecessary BS and Dragon Age 2 and the fact that many of the leads are leaving Bioware has shaken my loyalty to Bioware. They could probably buy all of that back if they bought themselves from EA (like what Bungie did to Microsoft) and just produced and created their own stuff.

tl;dr: Sure, I'll buy it and any other bs DLC EA asks from ME3 but after this game I don't think I'm going to be excited for anymore Bioware products. Unless they are an RPG about Vikings, of course.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

What they humorously forgot to mention in the video is that

1. The DLC was not CUT from the game because it was never IN the game originally
2. You DO NOT need the DLC to get the best ending in the game
3. The Prothean IS STILL IN THE BASE GAME, all the DLc does is make him abe to join your squad.


I love how people are following the word of a BLATANT liar in some childish attempt to get people to not play the game.

Self entitlement is a huge problem in the gaming community nowadays.

kind of makes me want to punch a badger.

 

[godofslack]

It's pretty simple. Non-cosmetic DLC should NEVER be launch day DLC. It means that content was removed. Okay, maybe not removed but, it could just as easily be the vanilla game. Whether it's relevant or not isn't important, it means that someone who buys the game on launch will not receive all the story content at launch.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Self entitlement is a huge problem in the gaming community nowadays.

kind of makes me want punch a badger.

Yes it is.

I love how people thing "content developed alongside the game" ="content cut from the game on purpose in order to sell it to you".

Its both laughable and saddening that people can act that way.

It's pretty simple. Non-cosmetic DLC should NEVER be launch day DLC. It means that content was removed. Okay, maybe not removed but, it could just as easily be the vanilla game. Whether it's relevant or not isn't important, it means that someone who buys the game on launch will not receive all the story content at launch.

No it DOESNT mean it could have been in the vanilla game becuase devlopment of the DLC could easily have continued AFTER the game went gold in order to get it printed and shipped on time.

I don't know if people purposefully forget that there is a period of two months before the games release that isnt being used to make the game but insted being used to print/ship the games and that's when development of DLC is done or they simply have no idea about how games are made.

 

[WinkyTheGreat]

The reveal for the collector's edition stated that there would be a bonus mission and character months ago. Now we know what it is. You don't have to buy it. Just like you didn't have to buy any of the other DLC that was tacked onto Mass Effect 2. It's extra content that has no effect on the main story (with a couple of exceptions). Remember Kasumi and Zaaed? They added 2 extra missions and some extra skills, but not much beyond that. They had no real dialogue that wasn't involved in their recruitment or loyalty missions, I doubt the Prothean will be much different.

What they humorously forgot to mention in the video is that

1. The DLC was not CUT from the game because it was never IN the game originally
2. You DO NOT need the DLC to get the best ending in the game
3. The Prothean IS STILL IN THE BASE GAME, all the DLc does is make him abe to join your squad.


I love how people are following the word of a BLATANT liar in some childish attempt to get people to not play the game.

Self entitlement is a huge problem in the gaming community nowadays.

kind of makes me want to punch a badger.

Agreed, but don't harm a noble badger. They've don't nothing to deserve it.

 

[Darkfiretiger]

I understand how some people feel, but I have the N7 edition preordered and if bioware say that the prothian DLC was started after ME3 was finished then I'm willing to beleive them.

 

[LGC Pominator]

What they humorously forgot to mention in the video is that

1. The DLC was not CUT from the game because it was never IN the game originally
2. You DO NOT need the DLC to get the best ending in the game
3. The Prothean IS STILL IN THE BASE GAME, all the DLc does is make him abe to join your squad.


I love how people are following the word of a BLATANT liar in some childish attempt to get people to not play the game.

You seem to be forgetting the audience that you are talking to here, presupposition of entitlement is pretty much par for the course with a lot of people on this forum, and a lot of them are incredibly dramatic about it.
To be honest it isn't really an issue, the game will sell well regardless, the people shouting about things that they don't like generally make up a small proportion of people, and the simple fact that they are incredibly loud about it produces the illusion that there are more of them than there really are, it's why people like Jack Thompson, Rick Santorum, Leland Yee, The Westboro baptist church etc have been able to get their message so well publicised, if you hate something and make tons of noise about it, then you appear to represent the majority.

Either way, come payday, Imma pick up ME3, and so are many MANY other people, and we shall play multiplayer and engage in jolly cooperation! PRAISE THE SUN!

 

[godofslack]

3. The Prothean IS STILL IN THE BASE GAME, all the DLc does is make him abe to join your squad

Source? because I've been listening to Totalbiscuit for years and when he's long he removes his videos and recants his arguments with an apology. If you can prove that I'm sure he'll be more than willing to remove the video.

As a rule of thumb I trust someone who I know has a strict code of ethics rather than some random on the internet.

 

[Tony2077]

i like how some people are acting like its the end of the world

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY

here listen to this

 

[RaikuFA]

Do you know why I'M not getting Mass Effect 3? Because the 360 I bought just for ME3 deleted my saves just after I finished playing ME1 and ME2. Oh, no, they didn't delete them, they were still there, the fucking console just refused to recognize they were there.

So fuck that. I'm not playing two goddamn games AGAIN. Because that wasn't the first time I played them, oh no. I played those same games over and over and over on my PC. Every time I had to reboot my computer or get a new one, I played both again. But no more. Fuck you, Microsoft. You ruined something I was really excited for.

I'm the same way with Half Life 2, every time I get near the end my comp save gets deleted or my console red rings

 

[dobahci]

This. I respect not one of these bullshit whiny boycotts because of this, and man is it ever tiring nowadays. Every time SOMETHING happens, it's just negativity all around. The "pirating it," thing, and the "I'll get it used instead so no one, not even the devs, get my money" utterly gall me. Nice one, bro, way to make sure the right people get fucked. Way to show you're not gonna take it and will not stand for any bullshit by...buying the game.

If you're taking a stand, mean it. Inconvenience yourself all the way or you might as well give them your money now, since you will later anyway cause you simply could not go without blue bitchin' sex in space to stand by your beliefs. As far as I'm concerned, you either send the message home, or be a pussy. Your call.

I might be missing something, but I don't think the point of a boycott is to inconvenience yourself or prove that you aren't a pussy. The point is to ensure that the company in question doesn't get your money. Piracy does that while still ensuring you don't miss out on the game. Where's the problem? It sounds like an ideal solution to me.

Why should a gamer have to inconvenience himself to make a statement anyway? If we protest every company that is run by pricks, then we'll basically end up finding a new hobby, because pretty much the entire mainstream game industry is prick-dominated nowadays, and finding a company that DOESN'T use invasive DRM or milk their customers out of every little cent with day-of-release DLC and rushed sequels is more the exception than the rule. And unfortunately there are precious few ways we can influence this.

How can you really get a company to change their ways? Even if you do manage to organize some kind of full-scale boycott, you're still only going to impact a tiny fraction of the sales expected for the game, and the company you were trying to boycott is still going to make enough money off of it to buy your entire town and rename it to Butthurtville. And there's NOTHING you can do about it. You can send them emails saying that they really ought to treat their customers with more respect, and they'll just say, "Sorry, I can't hear you over the whooshing sound of my moneyfountain."

Every time a company gets taken to task for DRM that rapes your computer upon install or for taking advantage of paying customers in some way or another, they come out with some press release with a bunch of bullshit and excuse-making, but you never see any changes made. Why should you inconvenience yourself for them when it's not even going to make the company change the shitty policies that made you boycott them in the first place?

 

[boag]

What they humorously forgot to mention in the video is that

1. The DLC was not CUT from the game because it was never IN the game originally
2. You DO NOT need the DLC to get the best ending in the game
3. The Prothean IS STILL IN THE BASE GAME, all the DLc does is make him abe to join your squad.

I love how people are following the word of a BLATANT liar in some childish attempt to get people to not play the game.

However considering the shit people did to that one bioware employee and that people can find valves hats as a scam only shows how decedent, corrupt, and overly entitled the average gamer is nowadays.

its sickening.

your point number 3 is the missing information I have been looking for.

It makes sense now, since in the leaked scripts he was very pivotal to the main quest, but making him optional on the joining is forgivable, its not really a needed character.

Wholeheartedly agree about your point that people have been acting like entitled victims.

 

[godofslack]

Self entitlement is a huge problem in the gaming community nowadays.

kind of makes me want punch a badger.

Yes it is.

I love how people thing "content developed alongside the game" ="content cut from the game on purpose in order to sell it to you".

Its both laughable and saddening that people can act that way.

It's pretty simple. Non-cosmetic DLC should NEVER be launch day DLC. It means that content was removed. Okay, maybe not removed but, it could just as easily be the vanilla game. Whether it's relevant or not isn't important, it means that someone who buys the game on launch will not receive all the story content at launch.

No it DOESNT mean it could have been in the vanilla game becuase devlopment of the DLC could easily have continued AFTER the game went gold in order to get it printed and shipped on time.

I don't know if people purposefully forget that there is a period of two months before the games release that isnt being used to make the game but insted being used to print/ship the games and that's when development of DLC is done or they simply have no idea about how games are made.

Bull shit http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/325/index/8006985/1 7 months ago.

 

[WanderingFool]

Well, I was actually planing on buying the collecters edition, but there isnt a collecters edition for the 360 on Amazon.

But I have to ask, Is the Prothean Really that important to the game? And dont give me the fact that its a Prothean to be an acceptable answer. Will this character actually have some significant affect on the game? Is not having the Prothean going to put the game in a no-win situation? Cause if it isnt going to affect the game at all, and I can still play through and beat it without any problems, I dont view this as any less of a dick move, but is really not all that serious of deal.

What they humorously forgot to mention in the video is that

1. The DLC was not CUT from the game because it was never IN the game originally
2. You DO NOT need the DLC to get the best ending in the game
3. The Prothean IS STILL IN THE BASE GAME, all the DLc does is make him abe to join your squad.

I love how people are following the word of a BLATANT liar in some childish attempt to get people to not play the game.

However considering the shit people did to that one bioware employee and that people can find valves hats as a scam only shows how decedent, corrupt, and overly entitled the average gamer is nowadays.

its sickening.

Now if that number three is true, than this whole arguement has become null.

 

[SajuukKhar]

3. The Prothean IS STILL IN THE BASE GAME, all the DLc does is make him abe to join your squad

Source? because I've been listening to Totalbiscuit for years and when he's long he removes his videos and recants his arguments with an apology. If you can prove that I'm sure he'll be more than willing to remove the video.

As a rule of thumb I trust someone who I know has a strict code of ethics rather than some random on the internet.

It was in the leaked script.


Also TotalBiscuit? a strict code of ethics? no offense but he really isn't much better then any average joe on the internet, the ONLY reason he takes down his vids later is because he knows if he doesn't he will get flamed hard by the fans of said game.

Dont take "coving his own ass" as "ethics", its silly.

Bull shit http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/325/index/8006985/1 7 months ago.

Are you purposefully ignoring the fact that the DLc WAS STARTED back then but WASN'T FINISHED until recently, or do you just not understand that?

 

[twohundredpercent]

Lawd that boy's got tha Urkels.

 

[DarkhoIlow]

I just wanted to preorder this game retail,not knowing if I will get any preorder bonuses,until I read this news today.

I'm just thinking how much EA thinks it's gonna milk it's customer with dlc through the big franchises that we are most looking for.

I can't afford a Collector's Edition,because I need to keep money for Guild Wars 2,Diablo 3,Starcraft 2 Heart of the Swarm and World of Warcraft Mists of Pandaria,so this move might just stop me from buying the game alltogether.

I'm still on the fence if I should buy it or not.

 

[godofslack]

3. The Prothean IS STILL IN THE BASE GAME, all the DLc does is make him abe to join your squad

Source? because I've been listening to Totalbiscuit for years and when he's long he removes his videos and recants his arguments with an apology. If you can prove that I'm sure he'll be more than willing to remove the video.

As a rule of thumb I trust someone who I know has a strict code of ethics rather than some random on the internet.

It was in the leaked script.


Also TotalBiscuit? a strict code of ethics? no offense but he really isn't much better then any average joe on the internet, the ONLY reason he takes down his vids later is because he knows if he doesn't he will get flamed hard by the fans of said game.

Dont take "coving his own ass" as "ethics", its silly.

Bull shit http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/325/index/8006985/1 7 months ago.

Are you purposfully ignoring the fact that the DLc WAS STARTED back then but WASNT FINSIHED tll recentlly, or do you just not understand that?

Nothing you say has any evidence. The leaked script could go both ways, saying he was cut from the game or just makes him a squad member. And even if you do think that is the only reason why he removes them I still trust someone who HAS to cover their own ass than someone with no accountability whatsoever.

 

[SajuukKhar]

So you trust someone who takes down his videos only because HE IS FORCED TOO and not because he CHOOSES TO BECAUSE ITS RIGHT.

ohhh dear god, the levels of extreme fanatic devotion people have to internet game reviewers is saddening.

is this the new project 10 dollar? all games have day 1 DLC made up of content which should be part of the main game because EA is a greedy bag of dicks? and lots of people on this website are willing to let it slide like "herpa derp dont buy it then cause i will its not important", do you want to roll over so EA can piss on the over side of your face?

just think what would jim sterling do?

*Looks back on all the day 1 DLC for other bioware games*

which one of them needed to be part of the main game to make it a whole game?

ohh wait...... none of them.

 

[JimmyC99]

I am going to buy Mass Effect 3 because I enjoyed the demo and I am looking forward to the conclusion.

If there is all this extra DLC giving new guns, art books etc. etc. I don't really care, I don't have to buy it, I'm not being forced, so I won't buy it.

It doesn't seem any different to Shale DLc or any of the character DLCs for ME2 or DA2 or anything.

The difference is Shale and Zaeed were free with all new purchases, this is not, you either pay more for the DDE/Col or you pay for it as Day 0 DLC, your right its not essential, no-one is forcing it on you. but Day 1 DLC should imo only ever be vanity items, i'm not to keen on the EA project $10 they slap on EVERYTHING, but i'm also no to fond of the way the pre-owned market fucks devs in the ass.

im not going to tell anyone not to buy it, why, we'll 'cus i'm going to buy it, i want to know what happens i want to continue the saga, so to tell you to boycott it would be hypocritical.

and too all you who are saying, "ill pirate it, that'll show them". FUCK YOU, seriously go fall under a bus.