Why I don't like Fable 2.

[Programmed_For_Damage]

I have found it to be very similar to the first Fable, which isn't a bad thing seeing so the original is one of my top 10 games. However I am a little disappointed that they haven't fixed some of the old problems (being mind-numbingly easy for instance); they've just added more stuff.

I played Fable: TLC not long before getting Fable 2 so maybe I'm all Fabled out.

 

[Baonec]

I was a huge fan of the first fable & was of fable 2 untill i got about 2 hours in & realised that it doesn't change, i liked the dog but after awhile (when i realised it doesn't die after being hit) i stopped caring at all, the lack of a mana bar in my opinion ruined the spells as it's now easy to spam the living crap out of them and without using the time spell is impossible to charge any other spell successfully. If i continued this will end up being a short review, all in all i think if lionhead had waited untill xmas to release so that they could check for balancing issues and fix stupid little glitches that plague it then it would have been the game promissed.

 

[Deadarm]

As far as the Fable games go, the lost chapters version of the original was the best simply because it took a minimum of about 13 hours to beat once you've played through about 7 times and found out that all you need is slow time and multi arrow to finnish the game entirely without losing any health. Fable 2 had a good thing going for it when they put in the childeren amongst the townspeople you kill just for kicks, but they screwed up. You cant kill or sacrifice the childeren, I mean seriously first time I saw the 15 childeren running around in the starter area I swear to whatever higher power you may or may not happen to worship that I said outloud "I'm totally going to kill me some kiddies." But much to my displeasure the turn off safety feature (pissed me off) didnt allow you to cause harm to childeren, so I just decided to kill all of their parents in front of them. As for what I said about completion time I spent way under 13 hours doing the actual main quest in between my random killing of the townspeople who had the audacity to not have a red heart over their head.

 

[DirkGently]

As far as the Fable games go, the lost chapters version of the original was the best simply because it took a minimum of about 13 hours to beat once you've played through about 7 times and found out that all you need is slow time and multi arrow to finnish the game entirely without losing any health. Fable 2 had a good thing going for it when they put in the childeren amongst the townspeople you kill just for kicks, but they screwed up. You cant kill or sacrifice the childeren, I mean seriously first time I saw the 15 childeren running around in the starter area I swear to whatever higher power you may or may not happen to worship that I said outloud "I'm totally going to kill me some kiddies." But much to my displeasure the turn off safety feature (pissed me off) didnt allow you to cause harm to childeren, so I just decided to kill all of their parents in front of them. As for what I said about completion time I spent way under 13 hours doing the actual main quest in between my random killing of the townspeople who had the audacity to not have a red heart over their
head.

I've noticed a lot of people getting irritated at your inability to kill children. Think about it. If they allowed you murder and or sacrifice children, do you know how much flak they would get? How fast that game would not get released?

 

[hypothetical fact]

The game managed to disapoint me every time I finished it.

Spoiler: stop ruining the game for me -mod

Playthrough 1: I choose the money, I buy the castle, I finish the mission, I'm broke again with nothing gained except the mayor title and becoming a butch chick.

Playthrough 2: I chose love, I get my dog back (best part), I get my useless family back - I can have more later so it's irrelevant, I get a note from my sister instead of her showing up which was the whole point after they guilted me with the dream house.

Playthrough 3: I choose the sacrifice which judging from the picture means a giant statue, I get another note, I get a small statue at the end of an alley when I already have 5 of them in much better spots.

Playthrough 4: I get all demon doors, all gargoyles and all keys. I wn't say the reward but it is a complete letdown for the work you have to go through.

 

[Vampire_Hermes]

The game managed to disapoint me every time I finished it.
Spoiler removed. -mod

And you couldn't've spoilered any of that?

 

[mintsauce]

The game managed to disapoint me every time I finished it.

Playthrough 1: I choose the money, I buy the castle, I finish the mission, I'm broke again with nothing gained except the mayor title and becoming a butch chick.

Playthrough 2: I chose love, I get my dog back (best part), I get my useless family back - I can have more later so it's irrelevant, I get a note from my sister instead of her showing up which was the whole point after they guilted me with the dream house.

Playthrough 3: I choose the sacrifice which judging from the picture means a giant statue, I get another note, I get a small statue at the end of an alley when I already have 5 of them in much better spots.

Playthrough 4: I get all demon doors, all gargoyles and all keys. I wn't say the reward but it is a complete letdown for the work you have to go through.

And you couldn't've spoilered any of that?

Also, you played through it three times? Why not just turn off your Xbox after getting each ending so you get all three achievements with one playthrough?

I'm in agreement with the OP. I was completely enchanted to begin with, and hoped to spend many enjoyable hours exploring everything the world had to offer. However, not long after that, I found that I had explored every location and completed just about everything there was to do.

The way the world was divided up into locations rather than being open was a poor decision and made navigation difficult to visualise. The ending felt like an afterthought, and I was not in any way challenged throughout the whole game. In fact, I felt like it was holding my hand the entire time. It tells you where to go and it's almost impossible to lose. Being able to level up from buying potions was ridiculous, and when I did finally die in combat, there was almost no penalty at all - I just lost a trivial amount of XP and got straight up again.

It almost feels like Lionhead started out wanting to do more, but couldn't realise their vision. Either that, or they just didn't pay enough attention to fleshing out all the details of the story as it unfolded. We are given almost no insight into the background or history of any of the characters after the first chapter, there is just no depth to the story at all. Oh, and the co-op play is awful. Absolutely atrocious.

To its credit, it was funny and entertaining, it looks absolutely gorgeous (despite the occasional bit of clipping), the music is lovely, and there are a lot of great ideas. It's clear that it was lovingly put together. It just lacks so much as a gaming experience that I can't call it anything other than a disappointment.

 

[SomeBritishDude]

Fable II is by no means a perfect game. But there a few things that save it for me.

-The Dog
-The Combat
-The Comedy
-The Stephen Fry

Seriously, how awesome is Reaver?! Probley my faviouirt game charcter now. Saved the story right when it was starting to get shit. Too bad he couldnt save us from the "Hold A to win" boss fight.

 

[jacobschndr]

Change the title please, it's highly inflammable. (see what I did there?)

wow I didn't know you could change the forum titles. But I like saying it "sucks" it lets me show people that I write from my heart. )

 

[jacobschndr]

Children to fend on their own? I thought that when you killed your wife, child services took them? (LOL! I'm sure glad i'm talking about a game)

Child services is basically taking the child to be put in a home with no real family around to protect them or raise them just foster home people who look after him like it's a prolonged session of day care. Basically there left on their own. that's what I meant (figured you get it the first time around)

 

[Amnestic]

Fable II is by no means a perfect game. But there a few things that save it for me.

-The Dog
-The Combat
-The Comedy
-The Stephen Fry

Seriously, how awesome is Reaver?! Probley my faviouirt game charcter now. Saved the story right when it was starting to get shit. Too bad he couldnt save us from the "Hold A to win" boss fight.

Garth is more likeable in my opinion, but Reaver is just far more amusing to be around. "Reaver's Rear Passage" Heh. Butt jokes.

 

[jacobschndr]

To reply to jamanticus, yes i played the frist fable including lost chapters I thought they were great, but that's because it was new to gaming and was exciting at the time. then all this hype started up about Fable 2 being bigger and better blah blah, and as it turns out it was not. There your question is answered

 

[DirkGently]

Fable II is by no means a perfect game. But there a few things that save it for me.

-The Dog
-The Combat
-The Comedy
-The Stephen Fry

Seriously, how awesome is Reaver?! Probley my faviouirt game charcter now. Saved the story right when it was starting to get shit. Too bad he couldnt save us from the "Hold A to win" boss fight.

Garth is more likeable in my opinion, but Reaver is just far more amusing to be around. "Reaver's Rear Passage" Heh. Butt jokes.

Seconded. Very much like his undoubtedly inspired by Dorian Gray. I liked Hammer least of all. Garth was a nice refreshing voice of calm coolness. But Reaver is still my favorite character (next to my dog, of course). I really did want more of him. Hopefully some DLC will feature his return or us going to Samarkand.

 

[Deadarm]

As far as the Fable games go, the lost chapters version of the original was the best simply because it took a minimum of about 13 hours to beat once you've played through about 7 times and found out that all you need is slow time and multi arrow to finnish the game entirely without losing any health. Fable 2 had a good thing going for it when they put in the childeren amongst the townspeople you kill just for kicks, but they screwed up. You cant kill or sacrifice the childeren, I mean seriously first time I saw the 15 childeren running around in the starter area I swear to whatever higher power you may or may not happen to worship that I said outloud "I'm totally going to kill me some kiddies." But much to my displeasure the turn off safety feature (pissed me off) didnt allow you to cause harm to childeren, so I just decided to kill all of their parents in front of them. As for what I said about completion time I spent way under 13 hours doing the actual main quest in between my random killing of the townspeople who had the audacity to not have a red heart over their
head.

I've noticed a lot of people getting irritated at your inability to kill children. Think about it. If they allowed you murder and or sacrifice children, do you know how much flak they would get? How fast that game would not get released?

True but you also have to think about all of the people who do the hardcore evil thing or the people like me who just kill everyone they see once the story gets to a boring part.

Also why would anyone choose the money option if they are already evil enough to go for it? I personally went as full on evil the first time around and was making enough gold to buy the castle every 30 mins. (I wanted my dog back lol.) Not to mention that by the time I finnished doing the quest and bought everything I decided to just go and set them all to the lowest rent possible without it becomming free and still wound up with well over 2 mil with nothing to spend it on since all of my abilities were pretty much maxed at that point from my civillian killing sprees.

 

[DirkGently]

As far as the Fable games go, the lost chapters version of the original was the best simply because it took a minimum of about 13 hours to beat once you've played through about 7 times and found out that all you need is slow time and multi arrow to finnish the game entirely without losing any health. Fable 2 had a good thing going for it when they put in the childeren amongst the townspeople you kill just for kicks, but they screwed up. You cant kill or sacrifice the childeren, I mean seriously first time I saw the 15 childeren running around in the starter area I swear to whatever higher power you may or may not happen to worship that I said outloud "I'm totally going to kill me some kiddies." But much to my displeasure the turn off safety feature (pissed me off) didnt allow you to cause harm to childeren, so I just decided to kill all of their parents in front of them. As for what I said about completion time I spent way under 13 hours doing the actual main quest in between my random killing of the townspeople who had the audacity to not have a red heart over their
head.

I've noticed a lot of people getting irritated at your inability to kill children. Think about it. If they allowed you murder and or sacrifice children, do you know how much flak they would get? How fast that game would not get released?

True but you also have to think about all of the people who do the hardcore evil thing or the people like me who just kill everyone they see once the story gets to a boring part.

Also why would anyone choose the money option if they are already evil enough to go for it? I personally went as full on evil the first time around and was making enough gold to buy the castle every 30 mins. (I wanted my dog back lol.) Not to mention that by the time I finnished doing the quest and bought everything I decided to just go and set them all to the lowest rent possible without it becomming free and still wound up with well over 2 mil with nothing to spend it on since all of my abilities were pretty much maxed at that point from my civillian killing sprees.

While some people may view your mindless violence as simple mindless violent entertainment, or sociopathic murderous entertainment, other people will assume it's because of a desire of you wanting to rape and murder children.

And yeah, nobody ever said Fable II was *hard*.

 

[Deadarm]

As far as the Fable games go, the lost chapters version of the original was the best simply because it took a minimum of about 13 hours to beat once you've played through about 7 times and found out that all you need is slow time and multi arrow to finnish the game entirely without losing any health. Fable 2 had a good thing going for it when they put in the childeren amongst the townspeople you kill just for kicks, but they screwed up. You cant kill or sacrifice the childeren, I mean seriously first time I saw the 15 childeren running around in the starter area I swear to whatever higher power you may or may not happen to worship that I said outloud "I'm totally going to kill me some kiddies." But much to my displeasure the turn off safety feature (pissed me off) didnt allow you to cause harm to childeren, so I just decided to kill all of their parents in front of them. As for what I said about completion time I spent way under 13 hours doing the actual main quest in between my random killing of the townspeople who had the audacity to not have a red heart over their
head.

I've noticed a lot of people getting irritated at your inability to kill children. Think about it. If they allowed you murder and or sacrifice children, do you know how much flak they would get? How fast that game would not get released?

True but you also have to think about all of the people who do the hardcore evil thing or the people like me who just kill everyone they see once the story gets to a boring part.

Also why would anyone choose the money option if they are already evil enough to go for it? I personally went as full on evil the first time around and was making enough gold to buy the castle every 30 mins. (I wanted my dog back lol.) Not to mention that by the time I finnished doing the quest and bought everything I decided to just go and set them all to the lowest rent possible without it becomming free and still wound up with well over 2 mil with nothing to spend it on since all of my abilities were pretty much maxed at that point from my civillian killing sprees.

While some people may view your mindless violence as simple mindless violent entertainment, or sociopathic murderous entertainment, other people will assume it's because of a desire of you wanting to rape and murder children.

And yeah, nobody ever said Fable II was *hard*.

Good point, but Yahtzee thought so to. lol

 

[SomeBritishDude]

As far as the Fable games go, the lost chapters version of the original was the best simply because it took a minimum of about 13 hours to beat once you've played through about 7 times and found out that all you need is slow time and multi arrow to finnish the game entirely without losing any health. Fable 2 had a good thing going for it when they put in the childeren amongst the townspeople you kill just for kicks, but they screwed up. You cant kill or sacrifice the childeren, I mean seriously first time I saw the 15 childeren running around in the starter area I swear to whatever higher power you may or may not happen to worship that I said outloud "I'm totally going to kill me some kiddies." But much to my displeasure the turn off safety feature (pissed me off) didnt allow you to cause harm to childeren, so I just decided to kill all of their parents in front of them. As for what I said about completion time I spent way under 13 hours doing the actual main quest in between my random killing of the townspeople who had the audacity to not have a red heart over their
head.

I've noticed a lot of people getting irritated at your inability to kill children. Think about it. If they allowed you murder and or sacrifice children, do you know how much flak they would get? How fast that game would not get released?

True but you also have to think about all of the people who do the hardcore evil thing or the people like me who just kill everyone they see once the story gets to a boring part.

Also why would anyone choose the money option if they are already evil enough to go for it? I personally went as full on evil the first time around and was making enough gold to buy the castle every 30 mins. (I wanted my dog back lol.) Not to mention that by the time I finnished doing the quest and bought everything I decided to just go and set them all to the lowest rent possible without it becomming free and still wound up with well over 2 mil with nothing to spend it on since all of my abilities were pretty much maxed at that point from my civillian killing sprees.

While some people may view your mindless violence as simple mindless violent entertainment, or sociopathic murderous entertainment, other people will assume it's because of a desire of you wanting to rape and murder children.

And yeah, nobody ever said Fable II was *hard*.

Good point, but Yahtzee thought so to. lol

And Yahtzee isn't a phyco?

 

[asteroth21nox]

I guess I have to agree and disagree. Fable was good but what ruins it is that it's piss easy.Two days was all it took for me, then oh look, I'm king and stopped the bad guys (who the people of albion diddn't even seem to know who he was or what the hell was going on). I'm pretty sure if the world is being threatened people would be talking about it but they seemed more interested in belches and farts then the potential appocolypse. I loved the dog, but it dosen't mask the piss easyness or the death has no real consiquences bit. They should have upped the difficulty,had more variety in spells, and added many more special weapons and items with varying challendges, more demon doors, and more areas makeing the world bigger. But I was surprised in how much fun the melee and ranged fighting was and I'm a magic guy in most rpgs, and the fact you could change stuff in your house was cool but they should have made it so you could change the wall paper and floor tiles and maybe even be able to build onto your house would have been cool but no no no. The story also could have been made more original and different but it's an rpg, what do you expect other then a world saveing secario? So I agree and disagree.

 

[Wolf Devastator]

I agree 100% with the OP, I'ts a decent game to rent because you can probably beat it in a day.

Who knows, they say their making more Fables, hopefully the graphics and new ideas of Fable 2, and the great storyline and bosses of Fable, will combine to make the greatest RPG of all time: Fable 3.

I hope... :S

 

[DirkGently]

As far as the Fable games go, the lost chapters version of the original was the best simply because it took a minimum of about 13 hours to beat once you've played through about 7 times and found out that all you need is slow time and multi arrow to finnish the game entirely without losing any health. Fable 2 had a good thing going for it when they put in the childeren amongst the townspeople you kill just for kicks, but they screwed up. You cant kill or sacrifice the childeren, I mean seriously first time I saw the 15 childeren running around in the starter area I swear to whatever higher power you may or may not happen to worship that I said outloud "I'm totally going to kill me some kiddies." But much to my displeasure the turn off safety feature (pissed me off) didnt allow you to cause harm to childeren, so I just decided to kill all of their parents in front of them. As for what I said about completion time I spent way under 13 hours doing the actual main quest in between my random killing of the townspeople who had the audacity to not have a red heart over their
head.

I've noticed a lot of people getting irritated at your inability to kill children. Think about it. If they allowed you murder and or sacrifice children, do you know how much flak they would get? How fast that game would not get released?

True but you also have to think about all of the people who do the hardcore evil thing or the people like me who just kill everyone they see once the story gets to a boring part.

Also why would anyone choose the money option if they are already evil enough to go for it? I personally went as full on evil the first time around and was making enough gold to buy the castle every 30 mins. (I wanted my dog back lol.) Not to mention that by the time I finnished doing the quest and bought everything I decided to just go and set them all to the lowest rent possible without it becomming free and still wound up with well over 2 mil with nothing to spend it on since all of my abilities were pretty much maxed at that point from my civillian killing sprees.

While some people may view your mindless violence as simple mindless violent entertainment, or sociopathic murderous entertainment, other people will assume it's because of a desire of you wanting to rape and murder children.

And yeah, nobody ever said Fable II was *hard*.

Good point, but Yahtzee thought so to. lol

Perhaps I'm suddenly stupid, but what exactly do you mean?