Why is bullying still an issue?

[nukethetuna]

Honestly, This has more to do with being smarter than everyone else. Even at age 7, I could talk around the system. And when you are smarter, people tend to get irritated with you. I was never bullied. Why? Because the first time 3 kids tried to beat me up they ended up on the blacktop bleeding from their noses and fat lips. And I rubbed it in. They were beat and they felt it every time I spoke a word to them. I was not bigger or stronger than they were- I was smarter. Now, once you reach adulthood, this tends to even out a bit; the gap of intelligence becomes smaller, but it runs on the same principle. If you are taught correctly, and brought up correctly, then it will not be an issue. So every time I hear someone say they were bullied by person x, or psychologically scarred by person Y, I have little sympathy. If you make a display of violence against them, that is good. But if you hit them where they feel it psychologically- no one will ever bother. Fear is an emotion, the easier to invoke it is, the better off you will be.

Bullied kids ARE weak. They are made that way by the bullies. But they are not at the beginning. If they are smarter than the bullies at their own game, then there is never a problem.

Pffft, what did you do? Headbutt them with your MASSIVE BRAIN? "I did it so anyone can" is not a valid defense. It's called anecdotal evidence, and in this case it ignores the significant differences in people and situations.

Also I think retaliating by scarring them psychologically and then rubbing in the fact that you beat them down constantly makes YOU the bully.

He is right though, the key is fear. If you make the bully believe you are going insane and threaten them or hurt them. They will leave you alone and find someone else.

It's possible that works on some bullies, but there are others who have support and who might even be legitimately crazy. They're not all a Harold.

 

[RanD00M]

There's a little thing I found out about bullying that can help the receiving through it. I like to call it manning the fuck up and fighting back. It worked for me, it worked for another guy I know. And if you can't deal with it then natural selection has obviously decided that you are unworthy.

 

[Darkasassin96]

You know on the news they say the same thing. "people say sticks and stones break my bones but words will never hurt me. Tell that to a child who has been called ugly and fat. Theyll say they hurt a lot." My reply to this, then its time to break ou tthe sticks and stones. Now i have been 'bullied' before three times in my life. Mainly because i can be considered a nerd. I do well in school and when someone say says pussy the first thing i think of is cat instead of certain female body parts. One of the three people who has tried to bully me ended up in a wheelchair for six weeks while his broken legs healed.

this should be the respponse children are taught to give, not run away to the teacher. That would be worse than the bullying. So were down to three options, run away screaming to the teacher who he says is inneffectual, take it like a man or woman you probably are, or make them regret ever setting eyes on you. I know which one id pick. And some people ive talked to have told me that theyre not strong enough. The reason the bully seams strong is just because youve never fought back and him not expecting resistance will be taken off gaurd and ripe for the t-bagging. So to all people being bullied go hurt somebody its the healthy reaction and the logical one.

 

[Keepeas]

Read the first(second?) chapter of Ender's Game and come back...
go...
why are you still here? GO!..

I'll give you time...........

........................................

........................................

You done?

Spoiler

That's how you deal with bullies. They aren't messing with anybody after that.

 

[lacktheknack]

There's a little thing I found out about bullying that can help the receiving through it. I like to call it manning the fuck up and fighting back. It worked for me, it worked for another guy I know. And if you can't deal with it then natural selection has obviously decided that you are unworthy.

Because that's the only correct answer. I tried that, you know how it ended up? Spoiler: It didn't work. I only got peace by surrounding myself with adults who gave a damn about me.

Also, it resulted in a mild obsession with psychological torture, so "manning up" was only DETRIMENTAL to me.

 

[Icetailgreg]

Bullying is like a hand grenade. If you fight it, it explodes. If you ignore it, it explodes. If you tell someone about the grenade, it will still explode. Bullying isn't what it used to be, but the teachers don't seem to understand this, the nits. Some think "OH JUST IGNORE IT HURRRRRR" but as with my comparison above, it will still explode. Others think "OH FIGHT BACK DURRRRRRR", but then we get more trouble, which is like another hand grenade landing next to the other, you get in trouble and the other still explodes. Others again think "JUST TELL AN ADULT DUUUUUUUUUUUUH". Do you think that didn't cross our minds in the first place?! Even then, they just have more motivation to bully you more! Even if we did, what would you do? Watch us get the shit kicked out of us while you drink your coffee and then punish US? The VICTIM?!? There is a circle of hell for people like you!
In conclusion, Nothing works. The only way to survive Bullying is Tolerance. And even then, you have to survive everything else in this state prison of a school!

 

[Mrrrgggrlllrrrg]

Well lets take a look here, most of the time instead of a recurring problem it seems more of an isolated incident without investigation. There isn't a problem if it isn't brought up, just because someone has bruises from another child doesn't automatically raise the chronic harassment flag it just seems like a fight.

There is a reason why people tell kids "If you get bullied tell an adult", not saying anything makes it seem like nothing. Same thing if a teacher acts out you need to tell a trusted adult.

Sometimes the bully has a poor home life, sometimes they just want to watch the world to burn, and sometimes they just make terrible life choices.

Help never comes to those who don't seek it.

 

[Blow_Pop]

why is it still happening? because the strong always pick on the weak or those they perceive as weak. I was a shy quiet nerdy girl in school growing up. In grade school I was bullied to the point of being afraid to use the bathroom because I got the shit beat out of me by one of the other girls every time I did. A teacher found out and intervened. Unfortunately not every school does that. Some schools turn a blind eye. We had fights just about every day at my high school though admittedly they were wanna be "gang" members fighting with other wanna be "gang" members or just people who were different but still we had a lot of bullying. It happens and a lot of times it is the victim who gets blamed because they have the less convincing argument or side. Because for some reason a lot of bullies are good at bullshit. Probably as a defense mechanism to stay out of trouble.

 

[Dalek Caan]

Some people like to feel all big n' bad so they need to beat the living hell out of someone. People like this will always exists. I take comfort in the fact that one day Karma will come around and bite them in the ass.

 

[SilentCom]

Bullying still occurs because there will always be assholes wanting to ruin someone's day. Also, teachers are often limited to what they can do because the school district is afraid of being sued if the teacher so much as touch a student.

 

[JDB15]

I won't get into physical bullying in my post, but cyberbulling... Dear god, I hate how people overreact to this, the media/the victims/etc, and how the "victim" of reported cases usually get suicidal. why I single out cyberbullying instead of talking about physical bullying is because the two are more or less different. (From http://www.stopcyberbullying.org) it's stated that:

"Cyberbullying" is when a child, preteen or teen is tormented, threatened, harassed, humiliated, embarrassed or otherwise targeted by another child, preteen or teen using the Internet, interactive and digital technologies or mobile phones.

If this is the case, here's some better solutions:
*Over the internet: Block/ignore/flag/tell them to fuck off/etc
*Over online gaming (I doubt that this is the case but it counts): Mute the person or just leave.
*Over the phone: Delete the texts/ ignore if they call/ tell someone (ie parents to change your number if the person is constantly doing it and won't stop or the police if it escalates to a certain point, ie death threats)

I can go into depth the reason why, but I don't want to bore anyone with my personal life.

...If its not physical? Tell them to FUCK OFF! and get on with you're life.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Zerazar]

Regretfully it's hard to deal with. Because kids lie. A LOT. And the kids getting bullied are often quite as big dicks themselves. It's just really hard to punish justly when there's no capable people around when it happens.

I could talk endlessly about how fucked the first years of school are. It needs a change of culture. More involved parents who actually care whether or not their kids are acting like undeserving scum. But most parents of bullies couldn't possibly give a fuck. Some are even proud.

And people do take lasting damage. I'm not saying kids are getting tortured, but they are very susceptible at that age, especially the early bloomers who actually think.

Meh, now I'm raging. I blame OP.

 

[Aprilgold]

In my experience? Because near damn every teacher in the system is corrupt and dickish. But thats just here in Arkansas.

Same as over here in the states.

Uh, Arkansas is a state...

I missread it and thought it was somewhere in Europe.

 

[SimpleChimp]

Give every kid a copy of enders game.

Have them read the first three chapters. Teach them to win, and to win so hard the bully never comes back.

I had one bully, one time. We fought. After that no bullies

 

[Zerazar]

Fighting back bullies is usually a losing battle unless you're blessed with a stricly superior physique.
Besides, a lot of bullying does not take form as outright fights, and kids have poor judgement, they could easily end up being the bully themselves.

 

[Orinon]

Because people suck

 

[Toy Master Typhus]

In my experience you can spread the blame to everyone:

1: Schools for being so scared of being sued, wasn't there a time where if you fucked up in school they would beat your sorry ass. And while we are on that why the fuck is it a problem to defend yourself when struck. The only time they get off their lazy and/or cowardly asses would be if you got up and said "I will put a bullet in all of you little fuckers and then put one in you teacher"(true story) and even then all they do is send you to councilor where these over paid ass clowns sit you down and tell you why your way of thinking is wrong.

2: Parents: what happened to beating your kid if he came home with a referral. Every parent now-a-days has that idea their child is perfect because he or she is the 'perfect' parent. How about you get off your pedestal of blaming everyone else and accepting some blame rather then suing every school that tells you there is something wrong with your child.

 

[VanTesla]

Well I know from my experience that most bullies are created through bad family relations. The bully could come from a abusive family, neglective parents, having parents split up, learned behavior from older siblings, being spoiled can make a child think it is above other children, and the list goes on. Many bullies where once bullied themselves.

Some people never grow out of bullying and bring it to the job they work for... I know some bullies at work and college, they don't bother me though. The worse thing possible is a bully with power like a Officer, Judge, your boss, and any elected official.

If I see bullying I will do what I can to stop it, but if it is with an authority figure that can ruin my life for doing the right thing, then I will be silent...

 

[RaikuFA]

I see it more of a societal thing. If someone's first resort is to kill themselves...and it's happening all over the country. Bullying in schools has been around since the Academy. Why is it just now that suicide is becoming more and more of a trend. When I was bullied, sure i thought of it, yeah the thought comes up everyday. But the concequences of my actions stop the urge. So I guess it is still an issue because we make things much bigger than need be.

I'm in the same position as you on that. That and my dog.

Apparently, my situation still happens to this day. Day after day I was beaten down to the point where I had bruises, a bloody nose etc. The schools response? "We didn't see anything." A teacher actually encouraged me getting beaten.

Got a feeling there's more to this story.

I mentioned it about a year ago. My gym teacher in middle school looked the other way whenever a basketball was thrown in my face, would throw me out of games if I got tackled in basketball for "causing a disturbance". Then she'd tell me if she ever got in trouble for doing that stuff, she'd make sure it would get worse.

It's 11 years later and I've been diagnosed with PTSD.

At least once a month I hear of a kid killing themself or going insane. Why does it happen? Bullying is the answer.

Well, more for the killing themselves bit. But that's off-topic. Moving on.

I want to ask though WHY DOSEN'T THE SCHOOL GET INVOLVED? I can understand cyberbullying but the ignore button is there for a reason, plus police care more about the bullying online than bullying that happens in schools.

Apparently, my situation still happens to this day. Day after day I was beaten down to the point where I had bruises, a bloody nose etc. The schools response? "We didn't see anything." A teacher actually encouraged me getting beaten. The schools response? "We can't do anything, she's a teacher." What if another teacher saw and we were dragged to the principals office? "Well, the kid with the bruises everyday probably started it so we're gonna suspend him for three days while the other gets a days suspension."

I was with you until that last sentence. I don't really follow the logic that's supposed to be at work, even though I know that you're trying to depict an unfair situation. Is that something that actually happened, or...?

I mean what do you do? Whats it gonna take foor this shit to stop?

Improve school conditions, to start with. As it stands, public schools are getting worse and worse funded and population is moving in the only direction that you'd expect it to in a time of relative prosperity. Beyond that, there's probably plenty more, but I'm rather tired and want to wrap up this post.

It was a bit excessive but once when I decided to fight back after being shoved into a wall and being kicked on the ground, we were both sent to the principals office, the guy who was kicking me? Suspended for that day. Me? Suspension for the rest of the day and the next day.

 

[Zeema]

In my experience? Because near damn every teacher in the system is corrupt and dickish. But thats just here in Arkansas.

This thats whats it was like how 3 of my schools

they only care bout there payment