why is Origin= Bad...Steam =Good?

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NiPah

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From what I've heard:
When you get banned on their forums you get banned from your games...
It scans your system, if one account is banned all of your accounts that have used that computer will be banned...
They have taken games away from Steam to be put on their own platform...
Valve has been in this game for a long time, Origin is simply poorly done mimic of steam...
So yeah, there are your reasons, they've been said many times by many people.
 

DarkSoldier84

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I haven't used anything on Origin (I redeemed a free Mass Effect 2 code with my copy of Dragon Age 2, but I haven't even downloaded it yet), but I am a Steam gamer. Here's my understanding from what I've cribbed around the net.

Origin is expensive: the titles being offered through EA are at prices comparable to retail and there are no sales or deals, whereas Steam has links on its Store front page to lists of games under $10 and $5.

Origin is limited: how many publishers does Origin have besides EA? A lot less than Steam. Does it have community groups? I don't know.

Origin is intrusive: data mining is offensive, plain and simple. If we want to let you know our hardware specs, let us opt in, but don't snoop. Steam doesn't do that (AFAIK).

Origin may be "always on": I know you can configure Steam to work offline so you can still play your single-player games in the event of connection issues. I don't know if Origin can do the same.

In conclusion: Steam does everything Origin does and more, with less intrusion into your hardware. It remains to be seen if EA can improve Origin's catalogue, pricing, and connectivity to make it an actual competitor to Steam.
 

Lunar Templar

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Orks da best said:
because 99% of people are valve fanboys, i have 3 times as many EA games as i do valve ones, and i like them more then valve, valve is overpraised, though bungie in my mind is the the overall best when it comes to fanbase developer.
o.o?

um ... no .... i only have one game from valve and i still flat refuse to go near Origin, only reason i have ToR downloading now is cause i don't need that crappy bit of spyware on my system.

(and what has Bungie ever done for its fans? Legit question)

OT:

well, lemme see, Steam has,
deals that piss me off for not having any money.
all my games in one easy to get to spot.
nothing locking me out of my games for no bloody reason.
new games i would have never heard of other wise.
new games from damn near everybody.
indie titles, lots of them, and they all look like fun.
it's probably one of the best examples of DRM done correctly.

Origin has
EA titles, nothing wrong wit that, but limited selection is not good when starting a new store.
its intrusive, borderline spyware, and the ELUA takes away consumer rights.
prices aren't competitive at all (from what i've heard)
crashy (again hear say)
lock players out of games for no real reason some times (again, hear say)

which would you rather buy from?
 

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Honestly I have no problem with Steam having the monopoly since it is free and works fairly well. I don't like having to have two other services (aside from Steam) installed on my machine just to play games (some of which bought directly from Steam), but that's just my personal gripe.
 

blackknight467

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Because steam currently has the better business model and the better platform. Steam also has an api for developers to integrate steam features into their game, Origin does not.
 

Arcane Azmadi

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Is this a trick question, or merely a retarded one?

Use Origin? Why don't I just let EA staff come into my house, go through my garbage and scrutinise all my personal paperwork while I'm at it? I will not tolerate the privacy-violating bullshit EA expect their uses to put up with for ANYTHING.

Also, Origin is just generally shit, ESPECIALLY compared with Steam.
 

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It's an EA employee... GET HIM!

OT: It's because it's forced on us in order to play their games... duh.
 

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Steam offers sales that regularly offers games for a bargain price. You can find games available on origin that are much cheaper on Steam. Steam/valve REWARD and encourage you to spend money. EA/Origin make you jump through hoops and treat you like your a pirate by default.

The short is that steam offer excellent service, and have built up a lot of trust and good will from its customer base.

EA is trying to force its way into the market by trying to MAKE people people use origin, and giving them no actual incentive to do so than 'WE SAY YOU HAVE TO!'

And lets not get into EA's track record on DRM, DLC and marketing. Especially the marketing. (pro tip - if it takes a game being under £4 on steam for me to buy it because your marketing campaign took me from 'WANTING THIS GAME NOW!' to leaving me feeling insulted, unamused and totally uninterested your doing something wrong. very wrong)
 

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Its very very simple: PR, its as simple as that, Valve has good PR and everyone loves them for some reason(I envy all the people who say valve is nice since they told me to fuck off twice) and everyone hates EA because its EA. personally I haven't had any issues with Origin since they changed my one fear with their EULA, and using the program for BF3 has yet to eat my computer, although my true wish is that more people will start using Impulse which is IMHO the best digital platform (or at least until gamestop ruins it and scares everyone away)
 

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To say it in a short answer I dislike Origin because it freezez my whole computer for a couple of minutes and I usually have some kind of connection problems with EA serves. And for Steam all of my friends are already there and I can easily purchase some gems while they are on sale, or try my luck on the contests, and Steam gives you free offers while Origin wanted you to pay about 5? to have the christmas calender so you could buy EA games on a discount, that was a big confusion moment for me and my friends.

(And yes I know my computer may be a bit old and slow if launching Origin lags it.)
 

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Its very very simple: PR, its as simple as that, Valve has good PR and everyone loves them for some reason(I envy all the people who say valve is nice since they told me to fuck off twice) and everyone hates EA because its EA.
Um no, it is because Origin is currently an unpolished t*rd that is forced on us by EA if we wish to play their games.

EA tried to get us to use Origin of our own free will via it's Digital Distribution system however it's list of benefits was no where near the worth the effort, after all why download install and run EADM and then put up with the nonsense of limited installs a crappy back up system and shock horror the potential of having to deal with EA customer support, when I could just go in to a store buy a game and just install it.

So shock horror EADM failed to do what EA wanted it to do, so they tweaked it, renamed it and then launched it with BF3 as a requirement to be installed to play the game. Now that sound to different to what Valve did with Steam and HL2 and yes it got a lot of flak for a prolonged install, a tedious update, dodgy servers and the fact you need Steam to play HL2. The thing is that was a decade ago and while many may have forgotten the issues Steam has the fact that Steam had them does not excuse EA for having issues with Origin.

- The fact that it is still Beta despite having been out in one form or another for five years.
- The fact that updates aren't done automatically it asks you to update your games then updates them. The Origin update system is even worse, as it closes Origin, starts a full download and then a full install system and then places a new desktop icon and if you don't notice it will set itself to start automatically when you boot your computer. It will also ask you to re insert your user name and password. Steam does all this as a background service and only requires a restart.
- Server downtime is a joke, more correctly what Origin does when it can't connect is a joke. Steam tells you their is an issue connecting (although chances of seeing that message are next to none.) Origin plays dumb and tells you that it is your fault for not putting in the correct user name or password.
- Origin accounts being linked to EA forum accounts, frankly that is beyond a joke. Bans on the forums result in you being unable to access games.... really?

The fact is Origin is no worse than the issues Steam had at launch but that doesn't mean it can be forgiven. If this was ten years ago and Steam had just launched then it could get away with its problems, but it isn't. It has been 'launched' in to a market that is dominated by a system that does everything it does and it does it easily, without issue and in a polished way. Then you have to consider that Origin has been in development for five years so it is even less forgiveable that it has the issues that it has.

Put it this way, I have one game that require Origin and every day after an update the torrent sites get checked for updates to the Origin by pass cracks. That is the worse recommendation for Origin that I can think of, I have the option to use it will I use it? No!. The same situation exists for Steam, cracks that by pass it exist, but I am happy to use Steam.
 

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Reasons range from people not trusting EA (due to things like the forum ban = game ban problem, issues with the original EULA, Origin breaking randomly, EA's lacklustre support etc.) or that the majority of people who want a DD client are already on Steam (as are all their mates), Origin doesn't offer anything new or better so they've got no reason to switch.
 

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I don't use Origin because they tried to slip that spyware shit unnoticed. Then when there's an outrage on the internets, they're like
"Oh well, at least we tried! Teheehee! We cool n' all, internet?"

No. I'm not fucking cool with it. Even if you've pulled the spyware, it's the principle that remains. You did it in the first place.

So, no. Not going to buy any title that's bound to Origin.
 

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I believe the reason to be is that Steam is much more than just a service; it's a great place to get good deals, it's a great social platform for video game players, and the game features that Steam provide are top-notch. While on the other hand, Origin appears to be just another barrier for paying customers wanting to play their games (I haven't used Origin myself, hence the "appears").
 

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I think it's the way you can compare the two services based on who's giving them.

Origin seems to be rather restrictive and tightly woven into games weather you like it or not.
Steam is more or less looser and open and is optional if you wish to buy a game through their service.
 

Bradeck

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Also, and I am unsure if this is true, but I heard that EA's Origin has a maximum ammount of downloads you are allowed before having to repurchase the game, which obviously does not exist on Steam.

Can anyone confirm or deny? Thanks in advance.

PS - No: "I haven't had a problem." posts. Thats a bullshit cop out. I want to know matter of factly if it's true, that you can only re-download a game so many times on Origin.
 

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RaNDM G said:
It's EA's way of monitoring their audience. Origin basically takes the information on your computer, operating system, and the hardware and software you have installed, and gives it to other companies for marketing.
Do you have Facebook?
Do you have Steam?
Do you have any program on your computer that connects to the Internet?
Its scanning you and handing your info out. Origin doesn't hand it to other companies, only EA. If you are that paranoid about your info being got, don't download anything, don't use anything that connects to online and stay offline your whole life. Origin ain't the first, worst or even most common. People just don't trust EA, which more recently I have begun to fade off - until their next mistake, but eh.

Current games that release on the PC require you to have an Origin account to play them. And you can't play games offline anymore, regardless of whether you own retail or digital.
So... To play EA games you need an Origin account, just like to play Valve games + any number of other titles added to Steam you NEED a Steam account - even if you bought retail. And I call BS that you can't play offline - I've done it many times when my ISP started Derping, you just can't play online multiplayer offline (As if anyone would ever think you could)

If it were optional, I wouldn't have a problem with it. The fact that EA wants to make this permanent is what presses my buttons.
Steam is not optional. Valve wants to make Steam permanent, and largely has. It is my problem with digital distribution on the whole, but this does nothing to prove Origin is worse than Steam.
 

willis888

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You've begun from a flawed premise.

"Everyone" does not love Steam.

I don't use either service, and if more digital distribution channels open that prevent you from playing your games without their server's approval, I'll avoid using those as well.
 

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kiri2tsubasa said:
It took Steam nearly three days to respond to my email about resetting my password. After that it took another two days to actually work. Why is their no "I forgot my password" link to click on. Hell even Origin has that.
There's a button to recover lost account info. Look harder.
 

Richard Keohane

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Laughing Man said:
- Origin accounts being linked to EA forum accounts, frankly that is beyond a joke. Bans on the forums result in you being unable to access games.... really?
To be fair, if you get banned on a forum you probably should go to your room to think about what you did and not come down and play videogames until you learned your lesson.

Unless there is some Orwellian moderation going down on their forums I really can't help but like this.