Why isn't Anonymous helping us against SOpa and PIPA

[Darren716]

They probably know that most people hate them and if they want SOPA and PIPA to not pass they're not going to mention it so the side that wants to pass it getsanymore support from the 1000's of people who hate them.

 

[SaetonChapelle]

They have caused what I believe to be more harm than good (I could be wrong). I believe if they got involved it would be bad for our position. They are not looked at very well, especially to those who are actually considering the bill.

 

[PinkiePyro]

at this point they would make things worse

how ever I would not be surprised that if it did somehow pass that they would cause chaos on govement sites

 

[Berithil]

Don't know, but fun fact: yesterday there was a news report on CNN that claimed anonymous was behind the blackouts......yeah, just goes to show how much news reporters know about the internet.

 

[Chairman Miaow]

Remember this; they are regarded by the American Government as little more than cyber terrorists. Having them oppose a bill would give senators a strong reason to support the bill (the enemy of my enemy is my friends).

Naw, doesn't really work like that. Congress wouldn't be scared off from not supporting a bill just because some idiot hackers came out against it, too. Just like liberal congresspeople don't vote for wars just because racist morons like David Duke and Alex Jones are against them.

Actually, that sort of is how it works. As a rule, governments don't give in to terrorists. If they do, that legitimises terror as a way of terrorists getting what they want.

The example of this I have readily to hand is of the suffragettes in Britain (1911-ish) who commited terrorism (not killing, stuff like vandalism and burning post) to try and get women the vote. However, they actually turned a lot of MPs against the vote, and one of the reasons for this was because if the British government gave in to suffragette terrorism, that would make terrorism seem viable to the Irish nationalists.

It did however bring a lot more attention to the Suffragist movement and I believe without the Suffragettes it may have taken EVEN LONGER for women to get the vote. Now I read it back, it's completely irrelevant to the current situation, so sorry about that. Anyway, yes. The US governments attitude to terrorists would mean it would cause more harm than good, as SOPA and PIPA already have all the attention they need. and anyway, what the hell would they target? They can't do anything off the web, and there aren't really any valid targets, unless they randomly try and hack supporters websites.

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

Seriously, They've occasionally been dicks and have definitely done stuff to gain the hate of many.
But These two acts are the sum of everything they hate, if they attacked Jean Simmons because went against their ideals, why aren't they attacking something that threatens to destroy the internet by massive Censorship.
Oh and here's another thing
on a different train of thought Who the hell does the US congress think its is? the internet is everywhere, like in Canada. SO they are imposing on international affairs, seriously this isn't legal.

How 'bout now?

http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-doj-universal-sopa-235/

 

[O maestre]

seriously as has probably been mentioned, what do expect them to do exactly?? most of the crap anon does is DOS(denial of service) attacks anyway, and what good would that be with a bunch of sites engaged in protest action

 

[bbad89]

They're too busy fighting the fact that Megaporn got taken down....pricks....
Great, my first Captcha had the word "urinated" in it....

 

[OtherSideofSky]

Maybe they're actually smart enough to realize how much anything they do would damage the anti-SOPA cause?

 

[CaptainKoala]

Anything they did would be completely counter-productive. You don't show to government that they can trust us with the internet by taking down their websites.

 

[The Floating Nose]

I don't think that i want a bunch of idiotic computer nerds who think that they are some kind of freedom fighters to help us against SOPA and PIPA. I think that we are doing a good job at expressing our anger towards those bills and i don't think that it will pass. Honestly, if Anonymous would help us i don't think that would stop when SOPA and PIPA are dead, i think that they will try to do more.

It's like if a bunch of knights would go into a castle to rescue a princess. DO you think that they would only rescue the princess and then they would just leave ? No, while they are there they would probably start trashing the place.

 

[Dys]

There's nothing for anonymous to prove here. Anyone (literally anyone) who uses the internet is already going to be bombarded with anti-SOPA/PIPA messages wherever they turn. Hacking the websites of those who support the bill isn't going to give the issue any more exposure, hence it isn't worth doing.

 

[Darklink82]

Anonymous is doing enough by rallying protests, informing the entire internet, Not attacking pro-PIPA/SOPA sites, and being as ,well, anonymous as possible.

If they were to start taking down websites it would just give more ammo to the people who want the bill passed. However if these bills pass without any sites being taken down by anonymous, then i think that they should start posting copyrighted material on internet news sites owned by members of the entertainment industry just to get them shut down by using the bill's laws against the people the bill is supposed to help.

I am wondering more why the Jester has not done anything about these bills.

 

[Rule Britannia]

I imagine they have realised if they attack anything because they're angry about PIPA and SOPA it would be taken from congress as
"these "foreign pirates" are crazy and will do anything for the internet therefore we must strengthen the bill, maker it stupider and shove our heads further up our anuses"

So yeah I imagine they won't attack but if it comes close to being passed (which it won't) or if it passes (which it won't) Anonymous may go bat shit crazy.

 

[Jowe]

As far as I can tell this seems legit

 

[vashthblackseed]

Their official help would be detrimental to the cause. But there are plenty of "anonymous" things they could be doing like signing petitions.

 

[KaiserKnight]

SOPA and PIPA are too big for them. The US government already took down a large website which was a 'big blow' to many users, Chan users/Anon only took down government sites which means nothing really. It didn't affect their information, their workers, nothing. Its like tearing down a warehouse full of drugs and the drug-lords break two of the officers windows...on their old car...which doesn't run.

 

[IbanezLaney]

Doubt they can do anything except maybe block a few websites for 10min.

You have to look at their schedules.
In between Preschool commitments, toilet training, trying to hack their PS3's so they can play on obsolete 8 year old hardware for free, writing 'hello world' scripts in various versions of C and going to the doctor for more aspy/adhd medication.

How could they ever find the time with all that going on??


Now a serious bit:
Any of them who are skilled programmer effectively (some actually) work for the virus/internet security company's - writing new viruses to keep people like Norton/McAfee in business.
Whether it is intended or not - that is the only real effect groups like anon have.
They are unknowingly being suckered into expanding an industry. Possibly the only reason the skilled members have been ALLOWED to continue.

They only prop up/strengthen what they fight against by ddosing/hacking etc....

Also don't forget that maybe only 0.005% of them can actually write any code so to rely on those 4-5 people in times like this is not realistic/possible.

If they want to be something other than mildly annoying kids - They need to engage people on a real level with discussion, debate and facts, using intelligence - not on vile racial hate sites like encyclopedia dramatica, a site of mommies boys suffering 'little man syndrome' which is filled with retarded 14year olds dribbling on themselves just cause they think it's free lube.

Q. Why don't they put their money where their mouth is and start a political party of their own and go for some seats?

A. It would show their true, active support levels at any election time - some groups are bigger/stronger in myth than reality and prefer it that way.

 

[WeAreStevo]

I think it's best that Anonymous stays out of this one. If they came out and started hacking supporters of the bill, it would simply embolden the supporters of the bill to ensure it's passing. By staying out and letting ordinary people (as well as major companies) bring their dislike of SOPA to the table, it is much better.

 

[lordmardok]

They are against it, they're just being more polite this time. They made a video to raise awareness, it has their logo at the beginning

http://memebase.com/2012/01/18/internet-memes-stop-acta/?fb_ref=newpromocopy