Why so much hate for consoles?

[BathorysGraveland2]

Well, I don't hate consoles themselves nor those who play them. No, my hatred lies in the controller. Haha. Seriously, I just can't use controllers and be comfortable. I'd probably get a console if there was keyboard and mouse support. Alas, I doubt that will ever occur, so..

Anyone who genuinely hates people who play on a console is an idiot with fucked-up priorities. That's how I see it. At the end of the day, these are video games, nothing more. Nothing overtly serious, or worth getting up in arms about.

 

[BleedingPride]

In regards to low-res textures, do I need to have some sort of trained eye to see the difference between pc and console? I didn't really see a mind boggling difference between crysis 2 on xbox and pc.

 

[WouldYouKindly]

Consoles started out as a cheaper, more accessible and worry free way to game. All they've got now is that they're slightly cheaper than a basic gaming PC(mine cost about 600 USD). PC gaming is easier than ever with steam existing as it does now, has free online play on every game but subscription based MMOs, and most importantly is incapable of trying to pull the shit MS tried to pull with the Xbone.

Right now, consoles are highly restricted, fairly mediocre PCs for not enough less money to justify that. You can do anything you want with a PC. You can change settings beyond the cosmetic. You can overclock the processor and the graphics card if you've got the proper ventilation to handle the extra heat. You can mod because PC makers don't hard code software restrictions into the OS... except Apple.(no one should seriously game on a Mac anyway)

Finally, the lack of a PC used market means nothing to me due to the prevalence of digital distribution and the massive sales and deals they tend to have. At any given moment, I can find a solid game for under 20 bucks on Steam, Greenman, Gamer's Gate, or GOG.

 

[Amir Kondori]

I'll tell you who I hate. All the assholes who talk about who much "consoles own PC's" or "PC's destroy consoles"

Those people are people with low self esteem who have to seek constant validation that they are making socially acceptable decisions. Those are the people who make internet forums a less pleasant place to be. Those are the people who should not be allowed to procreate.

 

[BleedingPride]

I like consoles as well and enjoy some games on PC. But by no means is one "superior" to the other - just different.

Unfortunately, that's just flat wrong. -snip-

While I agree with just about everything you said you could have been a little more diplomatic. This kind of comment is where the whole "PC elitist" meme comes from.

This is where I see the "console hate." It seems that people just are so flat out angry about it.

 

[clippen05]

Well personally, I hate people that think you need to spend $2000 or even $1300 to play games on PC. You can put together a competent rig for $500, the cost of the new Xbox. Sure, it might cut some corners, but it should be able to play things on medium-high for years. Even prebuilt desktops/laptops can be decent at gaming for around $700... while that might be more upfront, remember that we don't have to pay $60 a year for online. So yeah, I hate people with this preconception that you need to be rich to game on PC; it just so happens that most people that think this play exclusively on consoles.

Why do I hate consoles? Because they're not PCs... well... they technically are with the newest generation... but without good hardware, customization options, Steam, freedom, etc. etc.

 

[Amir Kondori]

I like consoles as well and enjoy some games on PC. But by no means is one "superior" to the other - just different.

Unfortunately, that's just flat wrong. -snip-

While I agree with just about everything you said you could have been a little more diplomatic. This kind of comment is where the whole "PC elitist" meme comes from.

This is where I see the "console hate." It seems that people just are so flat out angry about it.

It's the internet, everyone is angry about everything. 6.5 for Dragon's Crown? ANGRY! Anita Sarkeesian video came out? ANGRY! Someone said consoles have terrible graphics and controls? ANGRY! Someone said PC's cost too much and are hard to get running? ANGRY!

Sometimes I don't think I would mind everyone's real name and picture being tied to every post they make on the internet. Somehow I feel some of that stuff, at least the worst of it, would evaporate into the ether.

 

[sweetylnumb]

Because the console gamer is a filthy, filthy cretin that steal our games and send them back ruined and tainted by console filth with stupid controls and bad interfaces! Not to mention they keep some of the best games for themselves!

Hunt them down and show them no mercy! For you shall receive none!

(I'm kidding, its pretty silly. I just can't aim nor shoot for shit on a console, nor can i afford both a PC and a console and the PC gives me way more for my money. I can't play much of darksiders on a PC though...Nor can i ever play God of war nor the last of us, the journey etc )

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

A lot of PC gamers feel games are being dumbed(Really? That's not a word?) down as a direct result of consoles and their accessibility.

I don't believe this is the case, but I can see where they are coming from. The whole point of consoles is that they're easier to use, which draws more casual people.

There are other reasons why some PC assholes feel superior, but I think this is where a lot of the negativity comes from.

 

[thebakedpotato]

I actually disagree on the price point. I could never afford a console because of the large up front cost.
I can build and upgrade a computer in smaller installations. And still game at various points along my upgrading.

I have an Xbox now (4 years after I worked as an Xbox support rep. Yay!) And it still languishes in the corner. Because all of those years I used a PC to game. I made PC gaming friends. (And now earn a living by doing support for a PC game... that I've actually played. Yay!)

 

[sweetylnumb]

A lot of PC gamers feel games are being dumbed(Really? That's not a word?) down as a direct result of consoles and their accessibility.

I don't believe this is the case, but I can see where they are coming from. The whole point of consoles is that they're easier to use, which draws more casual people.

There are other reasons why some PC assholes feel superior, but I think this is where a lot of the negativity comes from.

To be fair, Consoles DO limit the graphics of games. Computers can handle way better graphics that are currently used in even the newest games, and its because consoles can't keep up with computers.
Its not bigoted, its science!

 

[wulf3n]

Consoles DO limit the graphics of games. Computers can handle way better graphics that are currently used in even the newest games, and its because consoles can't keep up with computers.

This phenomena has made me very happy.

Now my 4 year old $500 computer can still play current gen games.

 

[sweetylnumb]

Consoles DO limit the graphics of games. Computers can handle way better graphics that are currently used in even the newest games, and its because consoles can't keep up with computers.

This phenomena has made me very happy.

Now my 4 year old $500 computer can still play current gen games.

I know right? i got a graphics card from my friend that is ancient and pathetic and worth about $40, and its allows me to play any modern game except crysis 3 (-.-). Might be because i have an epic processor but STILL.

Look at us jerking off our PC gaming cocks <3

 

[WouldYouKindly]

I hate all the console hate. Personally i find consoles faaaaaaarrrrrr superior to pcs. There easier to use less fuck up prone and dont cost tons of cash just to upgrade to play 1 game half decent and controllers own keyboard and mouse on almost all games. Pcs are only good for internet stuff and some simpler older pc only games like gog stuff to me, well and some mmos but alot of them could be a hundred times better on a console like dcuo , final fantasy 11 , and defiance are.

Oh, please try to play any shooter online on a PC using a controller. You'll get demolished. Mice are a lot better at fine aiming than joysticks. You also can't easily play any RTS with a controller. The place I see controllers having an edge is in racing games due to the fact that a keyboard doesn't have pressure sensitivity, so you're either going LEFT or RIGHT and nothing in between. Oh, and no surprise here, you can buy any variety of controllers for PCs. There's even a way to connect an Xbox 360 controller.

Shall we take a look at mods? I can turn Skyrims utterly fucked inventory system into something sensible. I can download whole user created campaigns in games as new as Dragon Age Origins. I can download massive mods like Day Z or any of the various Arma or Battlefield 2 conversions. Games can become a framework off which the community creates something great, maybe even better than the original game.

To an absolute amateur, yes consoles are easier. Learn 3 or 4 things about computers and you can make it dance to your whims with relative impunity because you know how restore points work in case you fuck something up. That's another thing, if something breaks, you can usually fix it rather than wait for a patch or send it in for repairs. Just google your problem on your phone and you'll most likely find a solution.

Finally, there's the matter of cost. Something 4 years out of date will still be able to play new games on low settings with a few exceptions. Also, they don't cost that much to upgrade if your old components still work and you sell them. That 300 dollar graphics card gets cut in half when you sell your old one for 150. Also, you probably didn't need that graphics card if you bought a PC that costs about as much as mine, about 600 bucks, the same cost as this next generation of consoles.

 

[RicoADF]

They aren't. It's just fanboys being fanboys. Many of them don't even recognize it since they think only consoles have fanboys, but there is a large contingent of PC fanboys. Unfortunately, many frequent this site, so it can be exasperating here at times.

I like consoles as well and enjoy some games on PC. But by no means is one "superior" to the other - just different.

That's how I see consoles, their just different and have their place. I love my high end gaming PC's, but I also enjoy laying back and playing some PS3 or Xbox at times. I prefer PC for some genres and console for others (racing games play well with gamepad but RTS is a M&K go to).

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

A lot of PC gamers feel games are being dumbed(Really? That's not a word?) down as a direct result of consoles and their accessibility.

I don't believe this is the case, but I can see where they are coming from. The whole point of consoles is that they're easier to use, which draws more casual people.

There are other reasons why some PC assholes feel superior, but I think this is where a lot of the negativity comes from.

To be fair, Consoles DO limit the graphics of games. Computers can handle way better graphics that are currently used in even the newest games, and its because consoles can't keep up with computers.
Its not bigoted, its science!

Indeed they do. But they are also single handedly(also not a word. what the fuck) responsible for the incredible size and power of our current games industry. Without that, we would never see any of the excellent high budget games we do now, so the negativity at a few graphics limitations is really pretty silly.

Also your final statement is just BEGGING for Godwin's Law to come crashing down on it, BUT I SHALL RESIST.

 

[sweetylnumb]

A lot of PC gamers feel games are being dumbed(Really? That's not a word?) down as a direct result of consoles and their accessibility.

I don't believe this is the case, but I can see where they are coming from. The whole point of consoles is that they're easier to use, which draws more casual people.

There are other reasons why some PC assholes feel superior, but I think this is where a lot of the negativity comes from.

To be fair, Consoles DO limit the graphics of games. Computers can handle way better graphics that are currently used in even the newest games, and its because consoles can't keep up with computers.
Its not bigoted, its science!

Indeed they do. But they are also single handedly(also not a word. what the fuck) responsible for the incredible size and power of our current games industry. Without that, we would never see any of the excellent high budget games we do now, so the negativity at a few graphics limitations is really pretty silly.

Also your final statement is just BEGGING for Godwin's Law to come crashing down on it, BUT I SHALL RESIST.

Considering i'm currently struggling on avoiding the $180 cost of validating my (LEGIT) copy of windows because apparently wanting to have windows on two computers is BLASPHEMY, even though i recently had to fork out for Microsoft office *rage rage* i have to admit that Pc gaming has its downside. And you're right about gaming's origins. I think that's why alot of people stick to consoles, its the "traditional" way. But considering Microsoft is bringing out the X-Bone and no other console looks to be making up for it, PC gaming sure seems to be the way of the future. Now we just need all those filthy wonderful console exclusive games...grr...gimmi the last of us...

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

A lot of PC gamers feel games are being dumbed(Really? That's not a word?) down as a direct result of consoles and their accessibility.

I don't believe this is the case, but I can see where they are coming from. The whole point of consoles is that they're easier to use, which draws more casual people.

There are other reasons why some PC assholes feel superior, but I think this is where a lot of the negativity comes from.

To be fair, Consoles DO limit the graphics of games. Computers can handle way better graphics that are currently used in even the newest games, and its because consoles can't keep up with computers.
Its not bigoted, its science!

Indeed they do. But they are also single handedly(also not a word. what the fuck) responsible for the incredible size and power of our current games industry. Without that, we would never see any of the excellent high budget games we do now, so the negativity at a few graphics limitations is really pretty silly.

Also your final statement is just BEGGING for Godwin's Law to come crashing down on it, BUT I SHALL RESIST.

Considering i'm currently struggling on avoiding the $180 cost of validating my (LEGIT) copy of windows because apparently wanting to have windows on two computers is BLASPHEMY, even though i recently had to fork out for Microsoft office *rage rage* i have to admit that Pc gaming has its downside. And you're right about gaming's origins. I think that's why alot of people stick to consoles, its the "traditional" way. But considering Microsoft is bringing out the X-Bone and no other console looks to be making up for it, PC gaming sure seems to be the way of the future. Now we just need all those filthy wonderful console exclusive games...grr...gimmi the last of us...

I won't deny for a second how dark the next generation is looking. The 360/PS3/Wii generation was fantastic, but all this DRM business really is making PC gaming look more and more attractive. Hell, I built MY first gaming PC just a few weeks ago and I swear I'm seeing more and more threads asking for help on the matter. And it's definitely easy to get annoyed when a great looking game is only on a system you have no other interest in. I'm looking at you Halo. And Titanfall.

Oh hell, now I'M feeling disdain toward consoles...

 

[sweetylnumb]

A lot of PC gamers feel games are being dumbed(Really? That's not a word?) down as a direct result of consoles and their accessibility.

I don't believe this is the case, but I can see where they are coming from. The whole point of consoles is that they're easier to use, which draws more casual people.

There are other reasons why some PC assholes feel superior, but I think this is where a lot of the negativity comes from.

To be fair, Consoles DO limit the graphics of games. Computers can handle way better graphics that are currently used in even the newest games, and its because consoles can't keep up with computers.
Its not bigoted, its science!

Indeed they do. But they are also single handedly(also not a word. what the fuck) responsible for the incredible size and power of our current games industry. Without that, we would never see any of the excellent high budget games we do now, so the negativity at a few graphics limitations is really pretty silly.

Also your final statement is just BEGGING for Godwin's Law to come crashing down on it, BUT I SHALL RESIST.

Considering i'm currently struggling on avoiding the $180 cost of validating my (LEGIT) copy of windows because apparently wanting to have windows on two computers is BLASPHEMY, even though i recently had to fork out for Microsoft office *rage rage* i have to admit that Pc gaming has its downside. And you're right about gaming's origins. I think that's why alot of people stick to consoles, its the "traditional" way. But considering Microsoft is bringing out the X-Bone and no other console looks to be making up for it, PC gaming sure seems to be the way of the future. Now we just need all those filthy wonderful console exclusive games...grr...gimmi the last of us...

I won't deny for a second how dark the next generation is looking. The 360/PS3/Wii generation was fantastic, but all this DRM business really is making PC gaming look more and more attractive. Hell, I built MY first gaming PC just a few weeks ago and I swear I'm seeing more and more threads asking for help on the matter. And it's definitely easy to get annoyed when a great looking game is only on a system you have no other interest in. I'm looking at you Halo. And Titanfall.

Oh hell, now I'M feeling disdain toward consoles...

Aha! Now you see, don't you! free your mind!


Pc gamers have access to an enormous amount of forums and fixes, i've never encountered a problem (minus the one i raged about before -.-) that i couldn't fix thanks to the all powerful internet. Theres also the easy upgradability of a PC, you don't have to pay $400 everytime a new console comes out, just $200-300 for a new graphics card every 5-10 years.

But really yeah console exclusives piss me off because i want to buy them! i want to give them money! Don't they like money? and yet i cant afford $400 to pay God of War and dante's inferno and the last of us and journey. I just can't!

 

[Auron]

Since consoles became the main gaming platform for lots of developers, games graphic advancement have stalled, many games became ports on the PC mainly based on Consoles some that actually were born in the PC, terrible interfaces that took the joystick in mind(TES is the main culprit I can think of here.) showed up, QTE's, Simulators died and I postulate that the fact is in part due to console's inability to play them(not nearly enough buttons.), the simplification of fps(everyone's wolverine now.) and lots of stuff can be blamed on lots of publishers making consoles the source of these games if they're ported at all to the PC. So yeah lots of reasons to dislike consoles as they are now.