Will RTSs ever be as good as...

[Free Thinker]

A glorious thought just crossed my mind...
A Mobile Suit Gundam RTS...if it already exists, please don't tell me it sucks. It'll just fracture what's left of my gaming soul.

 

[xdgt]

A glorious thought just crossed my mind...
A Mobile Suit Gundam RTS...if it already exists, please don't tell me it sucks. It'll just fracture what's left of my gaming soul.

Isn't that what we would call a walker? If so its pretty much in every futuristic RTS out there.

 

[Penguinness]

I played RTS games back in the day. But they bore me too much nowadays. I used to play Age of Empires, Total Anihilation and Warcraft.

 

[Battenbergcake]

As good as people let star craft on to be, and as fun as it is it's getting a tad dated, things like the lack of a AI difficulty setting i found kind of annoy and the ability to only select 14 units at once was a pain when Zerging people.

Star Craft 2 looks like a vast improvements on an already brilliant original game however, but every game no matter how good have it's flaws.

Then again i'm not the most seasons RTS player in the entire world, but i do like to sit down every so often and play dawn of war or TA and the occasional game of star craft (if vista behaves).

Sept pong.

Gaming only went down hill in quality after that god send.

 

[wasalp]

Really? I was under the impression that BFME only came out on consoles as well.
Aaaaaaaaaaanywho, I'm not too ignorant, and can admit when I'm wrong, so sorry about that. But my opinion remains. Just like FPS seem to work better with the consoles, I believe that RTS can only truly be great when they are on the computer.

I will have to quite bluntly disagree with you they work just as well on both(I would say better on pc)

 

[Kursura]

IMO most RTS games are good in there own particular way. For example, SupCom has amazing scale while Home world has it's stratagy in three dimentional space.

 

[ProfessorLayton]

Company of Heroes and Dawn of War. There you go. Although Starcraft is a whole mess of fun.

 

[Sir Bob]

I personally think that both C&C and Starcraft are highly over rated. I prefer Age of Empires, Civilization, Rise of Nations to them. Howver, my favourite RTS is most likely Supreme Commander, which I like far more then the rest.

I can't believe nobody corrected you on this yet: Civilization is not an RTS. It's turn-based.

Also, Age of Empire was 1 race essentially, with 1 special unit per country you selected and no balance at all. There was 1 type of übermench per AoE that kicked everyone else's ass.

Rise of Nations came down to who would build enough factories close to the front, and mashes the create unit button wildly, and every mission could be won with the amount of starting units you got.

Starcraft reigns supreme over this genre.

 

[teebeeohh]

Probably not as much of a pair of giants in the industry, but good? Eh, sure. We have higher standards now.

RA 2 was literally the high water point for the entire C+C franchise. EA never learned how to handle their only good RTS IP.

Games like supcom and TA are bloody jokes. There's not a whole lot of strategy to mobbing units at your opponent.

RON was good, but it also lacked a certain wide spread appeal, though it was the best of it's sub-genre.

DoW is gimmicky and horridly balanced. Anyone remember the pre-nerf necron?

DoW2 isn't even an RTS in the strict sense.

Homeworld 1 + 2 are great, but they just leave a sour taste in my mouth when I think about what could have been.

Age of Empires 2 was...eh... it lead to a lot of mechanics abuse. AoE3 was better.

actually, there is more strategy in supcom than in most other RTSs, it's all about HOW you mob units at your enemy.

Z
I was just a kid back then,but man this game was awesome
oh yes and starcraft, hours and hours
(plus the usual suspects, AOE, AOM, Homeworld, DOW,...)

 

[SpecklePattern]

Starcraft, Age of Empires II. I have played all C&Cs but I'm not sure about the strategy part of those. C&C is always get-tons-of-the-biggest-tanks-and-crush... Well I have not tested this theory in the newest one, but I think it would work. I'm not saying that starcraft was not like that but it surely had choices for winning. And I played a lot of Age of Empires II, loved it.

 

[direkiller]

well Halo Wars is better then C&C Tiberian Twilight

Heres ones that can hold there own vs C&C(the good ones) and Starcraft

Sins of a solar Empire-Best Epic fleet battles
Supreme Commander 1,2- if you have the computer that can handle high detail land battles on a big leveal
Homeworld 2- Although its old its graphics are still good and its full 3D(you can move units up and down to flank from above and below)
Company of heroes- small scale WW2 were every unit matters and macro is probably needed more then starcraft

 

[Sebenko]

Well yeah, of course there will be RTS games as good as C&C and Starcraft. There have already been better ones.

Technology moves on. In the same way that Doom was revolutionary, as was Half-Life, as was Half-Life 2, as was Crysis (well, not really, it was just pretty and I needed a third game), older RTSes just don't stand up as well compared to newer ones that learned their lessons. (probably explains why people seem to hate Half-Life 2 now- when it was released, it was pretty, compelling and had physics- which are pretty old hat these days. Except for compelling. I can still count the number of videogame females that I don't want to stab with a rusty implement on one hand. Alyx of HL2 is one of them.)

I've had more fun with SupCom than with C&C, and I've had more fun with just about any RTS than Starcraft.

 

[derelict]

Supreme Commander, Company of Heroes

Well, I'd say TA, but SC is basically TA with better graphics and game balance.

 

[Naheal]

Try Sins of a Solar Empire. No seriously.

Isn't that a grand strategy?

Technically, but it's still awesome.

 

[Link Kadeshi]

Really? I was under the impression that BFME only came out on consoles as well.
Aaaaaaaaaaanywho, I'm not too ignorant, and can admit when I'm wrong, so sorry about that. But my opinion remains. Just like FPS seem to work better with the consoles, I believe that RTS can only truly be great when they are on the computer.

I will have to quite bluntly disagree with you they work just as well on both(I would say better on pc)

This is mostly true, but he's being too kind to consoles, me thinks.

 

[Rusty Bucket]

Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance.

You can have more than 10 units on screen at once. In fact, you can have all the units on screen at once. How can you play an RTS without strategic zoom?

 

[The Amazing Tea Alligator]

men of war. like company of heroes, but more realistic. And halo wars is garbage.

 

[Gerrawn]

In my eyes nothing can top Rome: Total War.

 

[Liberaliter]

Cossacks already holds the place as No.1 RTS for me. Nothing has ever come close since.