Will The Elder Scrolls 5 use project NATAL?!

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Dingoman013 said:
I'm sure you've all seen the project NATAL videos( if not check out youtube ) if yoou have u will notice it uses WII likemovements and such without the controller. So will it use this??? It would be amazing to work out your shield arm by actually raising your left arm to block, and your right arm to swing, I mean that would be EPIC! But how would movement be handled? Walking in place would confuse the xbox I'm sure... Or would it uses a mix of both controller and NATAL? LIke controlling movement with controller and use it like sword, but not the controller itself but your motions. Tell me what you think.
No. It will not be in Natal.
 

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Radeonx said:
I doubt it. Elder Scrolls 5 will probably come out before Natal, and even so...
My ass.

Bethesda is never that quick at making a game.

OT- They'd never use motion sensitivity even if it is the "hype" right now.
 

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If it would I'd probably buy it just to destroy it. Also, if it would be designed for natal, what would ps3 users get? It's not like bethesda would give exclusive content to certain consoles. That's just silly....
 

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I think it is a bad idea and this is the heart of the argument so everyone should stop badmouthing motion control because like it or not it is here to stay
 

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Dingoman013 said:
I'm sure you've all seen the project NATAL videos( if not check out youtube ) if yoou have u will notice it uses WII likemovements and such without the controller. So will it use this??? It would be amazing to work out your shield arm by actually raising your left arm to block, and your right arm to swing, I mean that would be EPIC! But how would movement be handled? Walking in place would confuse the xbox I'm sure... Or would it uses a mix of both controller and NATAL? LIke controlling movement with controller and use it like sword, but not the controller itself but your motions. Tell me what you think.
I redirect you to my post [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.127602?page=7#2726836] in reply to the latest ZP video's comment thread. Omni-directional treadmill, mate. I actually was reading up on them, and the harness you see in the video can be used for physical feedback (similar to the jacket I mentioned in the post. Imagine getting hit with a sword and feeling a "thump" where you were hit.), or simulating falling (fall off a cliff? Well you'll be picked up.)
 

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ansem1532 said:
Radeonx said:
I doubt it. Elder Scrolls 5 will probably come out before Natal, and even so...
My ass.

Bethesda is never that quick at making a game.

OT- They'd never use motion sensitivity even if it is the "hype" right now.
Maybe, but Natal isn't coming out any time soon either.
 

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Ugh, Bethesda working with motion control? No thanks. That would be insanely glitchy, not to mention hard to use.
 

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I'm gonna join the unpopular side of the argument ant say yes, I think it would be absolutely fantastic.

However, two problems:

1. The combat system would need to be revamped and improved to fit the control scheme, with the physics and collisions etc.

2. Bethesda, they make great games, but they have far more bugs than most AAA titles. This would cripple a natal or Sony motion control based game.
 

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Nope.
JimmyBassatti said:
Can't we just hope for Bethesda to actually test the game before releasing it?
Don't forget...Bethesda is known for releasing broken and buggy games. I like what they make, but I just can't handle the bugs. If they can release a bug-free TES V, I'll be happy.
You realize the SIZE of TES games!? Alot harder to fix all of them when theres so large a place to look. Also the size causes alot of the bugs. Less bugs the better, but besides game-breaking or huge obvious bugs, it cannot really be helped. That is, unless you want to wait till 2020 for TES V, and I know I sure as hell dont. (I could maybe last till 2012, but will be quite twitchy for some new TES by then)
 

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JimmyBassatti said:
Kiutu said:
Nope.
JimmyBassatti said:
Can't we just hope for Bethesda to actually test the game before releasing it?
Don't forget...Bethesda is known for releasing broken and buggy games. I like what they make, but I just can't handle the bugs. If they can release a bug-free TES V, I'll be happy.
You realize the SIZE of TES games!? Alot harder to fix all of them when theres so large a place to look. Also the size causes alot of the bugs. Less bugs the better, but besides game-breaking or huge obvious bugs, it cannot really be helped. That is, unless you want to wait till 2020 for TES V, and I know I sure as hell dont. (I could maybe last till 2012, but will be quite twitchy for some new TES by then)
Not all, but the ones that break the game...like the bed glitch in Megaton that STILL HASN'T BEEN PATCHED...
Do you ever wonder if Bethesda gets kicks from this kind of stuff? I think they do, since they don't seem to fix them...
*Edit*
Also, I won't accept a Bethesda game until they start patching bugs and brining something to the table that is different from the usual Bethesda game...
Well, i apparently missed this Megaton glitch. Also they do fix the big issues, and I have yet to bump into any game-breaking glitches yet, aside from one in Morrowind, however I have been playing Morrowind for over 7 years and the size and wear from that is the reason. So either you just are mad at the one glitch, or just dont pay attention.
EDIT to Edit:Bethesda knows what they are good at and keep at it. If you wont buy Bethesda games cause they are always TES then you are out of luck. They are aware of their skill at large open-ended single player games, and prefer to do one thing well than many small things. Bethesda games, ie TES series and Fallout 3 will be on the shelves longer than any other game. Bethesda games have shelf life.
 

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Radeonx said:
ansem1532 said:
Radeonx said:
I doubt it. Elder Scrolls 5 will probably come out before Natal, and even so...
My ass.

Bethesda is never that quick at making a game.

OT- They'd never use motion sensitivity even if it is the "hype" right now.
Maybe, but Natal isn't coming out any time soon either.
You say never like thats a bad thing. I would rather wait a bit longer for a better TES game than have it come out too soon and suffer for it.
 

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Dingoman013 said:
I'm sure you've all seen the project NATAL videos( if not check out youtube ) if yoou have u will notice it uses WII likemovements and such without the controller. So will it use this??? It would be amazing to work out your shield arm by actually raising your left arm to block, and your right arm to swing, I mean that would be EPIC! But how would movement be handled? Walking in place would confuse the xbox I'm sure... Or would it uses a mix of both controller and NATAL? LIke controlling movement with controller and use it like sword, but not the controller itself but your motions. Tell me what you think.
That would be too much like selling out I'd say. I havn't seen the videos but I am aware of it.

Dingoman013 said:
It would be amazing to work out your shield arm by actually raising your left arm to block, and your right arm to swing, I mean that would be EPIC!
No, that would not be epic, at all, ever. It would be gimmicky and it just wouldn't work with the game. Mixing the The Elder Scrolls and motion senitive gaming would be like mixing gravy with old milk, it would not be fun and you'd run the risk of puking.
 

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JimmyBassatti said:
Kiutu said:
JimmyBassatti said:
Kiutu said:
Nope.
JimmyBassatti said:
Can't we just hope for Bethesda to actually test the game before releasing it?
Don't forget...Bethesda is known for releasing broken and buggy games. I like what they make, but I just can't handle the bugs. If they can release a bug-free TES V, I'll be happy.
You realize the SIZE of TES games!? Alot harder to fix all of them when theres so large a place to look. Also the size causes alot of the bugs. Less bugs the better, but besides game-breaking or huge obvious bugs, it cannot really be helped. That is, unless you want to wait till 2020 for TES V, and I know I sure as hell dont. (I could maybe last till 2012, but will be quite twitchy for some new TES by then)
Not all, but the ones that break the game...like the bed glitch in Megaton that STILL HASN'T BEEN PATCHED...
Do you ever wonder if Bethesda gets kicks from this kind of stuff? I think they do, since they don't seem to fix them...
*Edit*
Also, I won't accept a Bethesda game until they start patching bugs and brining something to the table that is different from the usual Bethesda game...
Well, i apparently missed this Megaton glitch. Also they do fix the big issues, and I have yet to bump into any game-breaking glitches yet, aside from one in Morrowind, however I have been playing Morrowind for over 7 years and the size and wear from that is the reason. So either you just are mad at the one glitch, or just dont pay attention.
Eh, I don't know. I just really don't want a TES game. I honestly don't really care for much of Bethesda's stuff right now. I'm worrying about the releases that are coming out soon...like Halo 3 ODST, MW2, L4D2, Wolfenstein, and some other assorted titles. But I am waiting for Mothership Zeta...even though Bethesda DLC rapes your hard drive of a few gigs...
Then why do you care? If you dont like TES, then Bethesda is not really a company to wait on. And again, you get alot from the DLC, but they always release GOTY editions that have all, or most of the major DLC, so if you wait then you can save those gigs. I know I have none of the Fallout DLC cause Im waiting for the GOTY edition which has ALL of them on the disc.
 

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Look, give it up already. No Natal for TES, its not gonna happen. It would just be lame. Maybe they will make a simple RPG game to do for it, but it wont be Bethesda or TES. How will sneaking be? How will magic work? How will travel work? Do you really want to run in place to travel these virtual miles and explore the dungeons and caves? No, I really doubt you do. NATAL plus TES would fail. There are other games you can taint with Natal for a sword and shield experience, but it WONT be TES.
 

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JimmyBassatti said:
Kiutu said:
JimmyBassatti said:
Kiutu said:
JimmyBassatti said:
Kiutu said:
Nope.
JimmyBassatti said:
Can't we just hope for Bethesda to actually test the game before releasing it?
Don't forget...Bethesda is known for releasing broken and buggy games. I like what they make, but I just can't handle the bugs. If they can release a bug-free TES V, I'll be happy.
You realize the SIZE of TES games!? Alot harder to fix all of them when theres so large a place to look. Also the size causes alot of the bugs. Less bugs the better, but besides game-breaking or huge obvious bugs, it cannot really be helped. That is, unless you want to wait till 2020 for TES V, and I know I sure as hell dont. (I could maybe last till 2012, but will be quite twitchy for some new TES by then)
Not all, but the ones that break the game...like the bed glitch in Megaton that STILL HASN'T BEEN PATCHED...
Do you ever wonder if Bethesda gets kicks from this kind of stuff? I think they do, since they don't seem to fix them...
*Edit*
Also, I won't accept a Bethesda game until they start patching bugs and brining something to the table that is different from the usual Bethesda game...
Well, i apparently missed this Megaton glitch. Also they do fix the big issues, and I have yet to bump into any game-breaking glitches yet, aside from one in Morrowind, however I have been playing Morrowind for over 7 years and the size and wear from that is the reason. So either you just are mad at the one glitch, or just dont pay attention.
Eh, I don't know. I just really don't want a TES game. I honestly don't really care for much of Bethesda's stuff right now. I'm worrying about the releases that are coming out soon...like Halo 3 ODST, MW2, L4D2, Wolfenstein, and some other assorted titles. But I am waiting for Mothership Zeta...even though Bethesda DLC rapes your hard drive of a few gigs...
Then why do you care? If you dont like TES, then Bethesda is not really a company to wait on. And again, you get alot from the DLC, but they always release GOTY editions that have all, or most of the major DLC, so if you wait then you can save those gigs. I know I have none of the Fallout DLC cause Im waiting for the GOTY edition which has ALL of them on the disc.
I care for it, but I'm not going to go crazy about it. For all we know, they may have ditched TES. I doubt it, but you get the point. And I didn't really feel like waiting. I'm just a little disappointed with the packs... Hopefully Zeta will fix it all that.
What alternate hell-universe are you from to think that!? Now sure, I may be tetering on that line where fandom goes a bit too crazy and illogic thinking, but not yet, and trust me, there will be a TES V, and TES VI, and TES VII. The ONLY way to prevent that is for Bethesda to be destroyed. So far, that wont be happening.
 

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Radeonx said:
ansem1532 said:
Radeonx said:
I doubt it. Elder Scrolls 5 will probably come out before Natal, and even so...
My ass.

Bethesda is never that quick at making a game.

OT- They'd never use motion sensitivity even if it is the "hype" right now.
Maybe, but Natal isn't coming out any time soon either.
Yes, but knowing Microsoft, they will rush it, make it a piece of shit, and then 4 months later come out with another version that is slightly better but a lot more pricey with new features that should have been in the first product.
 

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Limos said:
Oblivion was basically a PC game, ported to the console. Not the other way around.
Did you actually play Oblivion?
With it's ridiculously oversized text, awkward controls, abysmal third person camera. There isn't much doubt in my mind that it's a console game at heart.
 

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JimmyBassatti said:
Kiutu said:
-explosion heard in the background, in Bethesda, Maryland-
"Terrorists Win" >:]
I don't care if you are crazy for Bethesda :D
We all love certain developers... Bethesda just pisses me off when they tend to release games that are like my house...bug filled...
Bethesda's biggest problem is ants, little annoyances like floating rocks and such. Look at Epic though. The Gears games have poisonous spiders and giant roaches, and scattered number of centepedes, with lots of medium spiders everywhere.
Maybe Bethesda has a bug problem, but its not as bad as you seem to think, especcially compared to some others.