Zachary Amaranth said:
Whatislove said:
- Nintendo do not "release the same game", and they definitely do not do it every year:
There have been 22 Assassin's creed titles since 2007
There have been 19 Zelda titles (including link's crossbow training) since 1987
You know, in order to get the AC number, you need to include ports and at least one collection.
When you include all the remakes and collections of Zelda games, the number rises sharply.
Oh, sure, there have been more AC titles over the course of a few years, but Nintendo doesn't exactly come off as looking good in this equation. Merely the lesser of two evils.
And man, I think you know that since you had to exclude remakes and rereleases with Mario. Just the remakes alone...Hooboy. And then you count spinoffs and the like....yeah, this is a pretty disingenuous comparison.
You don't need to include ports for that AC number, the amount of spin-off AC games there are is astounding.
If I add in the proper remakes for Zelda (so not including virtual console downloads of the originals games) we punch it up to 23.
If I take away a few of the questionable AC titles it brings it down to 18-19... that's still very,
very close for 2 series that have a 20 year life-span age difference.
The CoD comparison was also for Call of Duty's sake, there is no point in including virtual console downloads as new titles or re-releases, like-wise there is no point in including all the collections/compilations and re-releases of the same game CoD has done.
Super mario doesn't have what I would call spin-offs, they have new entries for separate series' based on the same IP. Luigi's Mansion isn't a Super Mario spin-off... it's not a platformer, and it now has 2 titles, it is it's own series.
The numbers I listed in comparison (incorrectly for Zelda because I was doing it rather quickly) only include titles (new or remakes) that charged full retail price on release. I didn't include New super luigi U because it's a DLC pack (even though it's sold complete as the original game now, new super mario bros U). I work on the concept that if I were adding square enix into this comparion, I would not include Final Fantasy 7 on PSOne and Final Fantasy 7 on PC as 2 different titles.. the PC version sells for $15, that is not what the original sold for at retail and it wasn't re-released by Square as a new flagship title.
The same goes for the PSN versions of Final Fantasy, they aren't new games, and they are sold for a fraction of their original cost, just like Nintendo's virtual console titles... there's no logic in counting super mario bros. 3 twice because it's available for 4.99 on the eshop.
The regular series Nintendo games are games
that people want, why would Nintendo not make a new Super Smash Bros after 6 years? or a new Mario Kart games after 7 years? or a new Zelda game after 4 years?... these are hugely successful franchises, they have resisted the urge to buy 20 different studios and stick 12 of them on staggered developments of several titles in the same franchise like Ubisoft has with Assassin's creed.
Nintendo get shit on all the time for
giving the people what they want, all their new stuff, all their original IPs, all their experimentation with their IPs are never mentioned. Nobody said "oh, another Luigi's mansion game" when Dark Moon came out, but it's only the second title in that series in 12 years... if they release another one though, better brace yourself for the criticism, it's not OK for Nintendo to make 3 games in the same series in over 12 years, only every company is allowed to make games as frequently as that.
I mean seriously, I have seen it written, and heard it said, "another pikmin game"... THERE HAS ONLY BEEN 3 PIKMIN GAMES IN OVER 10 GODDAMN YEARS, FARCRY CAME OUT IN THE SAME YEAR AS PIKMIN AND THERE ARE 3 TIMES THE NUMBER OF FARCRY TITLES AS THERE ARE PIKMIN TITLES.