Woman robs man on side of road, Two "samaritans" help her because she's a woman

[Nemesis729]

Well if the two guys only saw the victim trying to get his chain back, I can understand why they would mistake who was robbing who. Seems like a simple mistake.

 

[DevilWithaHalo]

A very unfortunate turn of events, one that may have easily been avoidable if people immediately attempted to sort out the situation after they intervened. I hope the perpetrator is caught, now that they have 3 witnesses that could identify her.

As for all the gender stuff going on here... 2 people have been added to my ignore list. That is all.

 

[Eri]

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I never claimed sexism about the two samaritans.

"I dunno what else to say really, this all happened because they were being sexist towards men. " - You. In the OP. In this thread.

lolol

Once again, you've taken my words the wrong way. Purposely this time. You know damn well what I meant, Because you're the one who brought up what I was quoting.

Did you not understand the quote?

I never claimed sexism about the two samaritans.

I dunno what else to say really, this all happened because they were being sexist towards men.

So you dud claim the Samaritans were being sexist.

You seem to be confused, so I'll clarify. These are TWO DIFFERENT instances me and the other guy we're referring to. TWO. Not one. The second is the one me and him were talking about and now you are trying to take the other instance and claim something I never said.

 

[Eri]

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I never claimed sexism about the two samaritans.

"I dunno what else to say really, this all happened because they were being sexist towards men. " - You. In the OP. In this thread.

lolol

Once again, you've taken my words the wrong way. Purposely this time. You know damn well what I meant, Because you're the one who brought up what I was quoting.

Did you not understand the quote?

I never claimed sexism about the two samaritans.

I dunno what else to say really, this all happened because they were being sexist towards men.

So you dud claim the Samaritans were being sexist.

You seem to be confused, so I'll clarify. These are TWO DIFFERENT instances me and the other guy we're referring to. TWO. Not one. The second is the one me and him were talking about and now you are trying to take the other instance and claim something I never said.

Never said? Do you want me to quote you again?

What part of TWO did you not understand? The first instance of sexism was what I put in the OP. The next (e.g. 2nd) was that people assumed two men came to intervene, not a man and a woman.

Do you see now? TWO DIFFERENT instances.

 

[infinity_turtles]

Statistics say that [women suck at games].

Prove it. I'm calling you on it. Back up what you just said and prove, with sources and research, that "women suck at video games."

Try. It'll make my day

Where did I say women sucked at video games?

"Statistics say that most gamers are men and the girlfriends/wives don't play games or suck at them."

Provide those statistics that say "girlfriends and wives" suck at video games. or admit that you pulled it out your ass and used the word statistics in an attempt to bolster your conjecture to something solid.

That statement was poorly phrased on his part. Had he said and/or or limited it to the genre one could argue that those who don't play them probably suck at them, or cite some of the studies regarding gender preference of genre respectively. But saying "or suck at them" in relation to all games? I don't think that's a defensible statement.

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I never claimed sexism about the two samaritans.

"I dunno what else to say really, this all happened because they were being sexist towards men. " - You. In the OP. In this thread.

lolol

Once again, you've taken my words the wrong way. Purposely this time. You know damn well what I meant, Because you're the one who brought up what I was quoting.

Did you not understand the quote?

I never claimed sexism about the two samaritans.

I dunno what else to say really, this all happened because they were being sexist towards men.

So you dud claim the Samaritans were being sexist.

You seem to be confused, so I'll clarify. These are TWO DIFFERENT instances me and the other guy we're referring to. TWO. Not one. The second is the one me and him were talking about and now you are trying to take the other instance and claim something I never said.

Never said? Do you want me to quote you again?

What part of TWO did you not understand? The first instance of sexism was what I put in the OP. The next (e.g. 2nd) was that people assumed two men came to intervene, not a man and a woman.

Do you see now? TWO DIFFERENT instances.

"The Samaritans were acting sexist."

"I never said the Samaritans were acting sexist."

Two different instances :3

He's trying to say he never said people were sexist for assuming the Samaritans were male.

 

[Nemesis729]

Well if the two guys only saw the victim trying to get his chain back, I can understand why they would mistake who was robbing who. Seems like a simple mistake.

It was one guy and one girl, not two guys.

"Two passing motorists in Plainfield, New Jersey, rushed to help a woman who appeared to be defending herself against a male robber, only to learn later that the opposite was true."

There were two men who helped the woman who was robbing the man... like I said.

 

[Eri]

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I never claimed sexism about the two samaritans.

"I dunno what else to say really, this all happened because they were being sexist towards men. " - You. In the OP. In this thread.

lolol

Once again, you've taken my words the wrong way. Purposely this time. You know damn well what I meant, Because you're the one who brought up what I was quoting.

Did you not understand the quote?

I never claimed sexism about the two samaritans.

I dunno what else to say really, this all happened because they were being sexist towards men.

So you dud claim the Samaritans were being sexist.

You seem to be confused, so I'll clarify. These are TWO DIFFERENT instances me and the other guy we're referring to. TWO. Not one. The second is the one me and him were talking about and now you are trying to take the other instance and claim something I never said.

Never said? Do you want me to quote you again?

What part of TWO did you not understand? The first instance of sexism was what I put in the OP. The next (e.g. 2nd) was that people assumed two men came to intervene, not a man and a woman.

Do you see now? TWO DIFFERENT instances.

"The Samaritans were acting sexist."

"I never said the Samaritans were acting sexist."

Two different instances :3

The 2nd instance NOTHING TO DO with the samaritans, it has to do with the people on this forum.

 

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Statistics say that [women suck at games].

Prove it. I'm calling you on it. Back up what you just said and prove, with sources and research, that "women suck at video games."

Try. It'll make my day

Where did I say women sucked at video games?

"Statistics say that most gamers are men and the girlfriends/wives don't play games or suck at them."

Provide those statistics that say "girlfriends and wives" suck at video games. or admit that you pulled it out your ass and used the word statistics in an attempt to bolster your conjecture to something solid.

Ok, it should have been their rather than the. Though I guess you are right all those men who play FPS games have wives that are really good at them but are just keeping it a secret, or maybe most FPS players are men - what do you think? Still, it seems you don't do irony and your histrionically defensive reaction means I must have touched a nerve, sorry about that *sigh*

 

[DementedSheep]

Or it was because he looked like the aggressor while she was trying to get away not attacking? Yes there were two of them but it?s difficult to restrain someone properly on your own. When she bolted one of them would have to run off to catch her and leave the other on their own with what they thought was a hostile drunk guy. Besides he did chase after her so the people did let him go. This probably all happened within a couple of minutes.
Not necessarily sexism, just misinformation. Not that there isn?t sexism around this issue because there is but this was not necessarily a case of it.

 

[HorrendusOne]

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So many assumptions about me make this not worth breaking down to explain. I have delt with situations like this, I have broken up many fights, and have a high amount of fighting experience. I understand how most people react and know how to calm someone during a fight.

Humans are just as predictable as animals, I wonder why.... (sarcasm)...

 

[Dags90]

"Two passing motorists in Plainfield, New Jersey, rushed to help a woman who appeared to be defending herself against a male robber, only to learn later that the opposite was true."

There were two men who helped the woman who was robbing the man... like I said.

No, there weren't. I don't know if you're trying to suggest "motorist" means they're men, but women can legally drive here in New Jersey. It was specifically, a 21 year old man and a 26 year old woman.[footnote]http://www.dailyrecord.com/article/20120820/NJNEWS/308200045/Plainfield-police-Would-be-good-Samaritans-inadvertently-allow-robbery-suspect-to-escape[/footnote]

 

[Lyri]

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I never claimed sexism about the two samaritans, just that this is what happens when people assume things. They end up being wrong sometimes and less than good results occur. Mind you, I'm not saying it wasn't either, just that I never claimed one way or the other.

I dunno what else to say really, this all happened because they were being sexist towards men. I'm sure they thought they were about to be a shining example of humanity, but instead, they looked before they leaped.

You just said the two samaritans are being sexist towards men because they held down the man without questioning the woman.
You can stop back peddling now.

Rule 34 can be a huge son of a *****. One time I looked up April O'Neil on Google with safe search on and the first image to pop up was her, tied to a chair, being raped by the Ninja Turtles D:

Usually people get the pornstar April O'Niel dressed as April O'Niel, but that is hilarious.

I can answer that, actually.

Sexism: Attitudes or behavior based on traditional stereotypes of sexual roles, from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sexism

Traditionally speaking, in western societies, in America, and possibly New Jersey (That one I can't talk for), it is the mans role to defend a woman who is being attacked by a man. The original post didn't mention that it was a man and a woman in the car.

But many people automatically assumed it was two men who grabbed the victim of the mugging.

Why did they assume it? It's not a huge leap to say it's because they were relying on their preconceptions regarding gender roles, that is, that men defend women.

Which is sexism, though not necessarily a negative connotation of it.

Also for the chivalry thing, again it has things in there about gender specific issues (how to treat women), but the main purpose of the classical chivalric code is not only to define how to treat women, it's how to treat everyone, how to act around your social superiors, stuff like that.

This is an assumption, as you said it's not a leap but it is actually a leap to a conclusion.
Nothing to do with people being sexist at all.

 

[Calibanbutcher]

Please memorise that every time you feel like comparing pain/suffering to others based on gender,race,etc.

The problem is that when men complain so loudly about occasionally experiencing what it's like to be a woman (i.e. subject to random violence, disempowerment, and misrepresentation), they are the ones who implicitly "underestimate [another's] pain" and "treat anyone's hardship like its nothing." When you act with incredible indignation and rage and hurt because you have to endure what women endure every day, then there is a clear implication that somehow it is worse for you simply because you are a man. If you don't frame every possible discussion regarding the problems you may face due to your sex with, "Despite the obvious benefits my sex grants me in every social, economic, and political situation, and despite the fact that I suffer due to my gender far less than women ever do, this particular situation shows me what the disempowered live like every day" then you are denying another's pain and treating another's hardship like its nothing."

I cannot make this more clear; when a man complains that he is occasionally harassed, exploited, or in this situation, subject to violence due to his gender, what they are really complaining is that they had to experience for one day what it is like for all women every day. Remember that.

A good example of this is prison. Even in a high-security correctional facility, where inmates live their lives with a perpetual fear of violence and sexual exploitation, a man is less likely to be raped than a woman is EVERY DAY ON THE OUTSIDE. Prison life is better for men than regular life is for women when it comes to safety from violent crime, sexual or not. Think about that. The horror and fear that men experience going to prison, where our culture tells us that rape and humiliation and abuse are only inches away at any time, is not as great as the horror and fear that most women have walking home at night.

Here's a more personal story: Have you ever been abused? I have. I had a girlfriend who on many occasions was physically violent, not to mention verbally abusive and cruel. I thought she might actually seriously hurt me. This is a true story. I went to a domestic abuse counseling place in town and guess what? They couldn't do anything for me because they had over 40 women lined up behind their already full to capacity regular schedules. They were just telling people to call 911 because so many women were being beaten and abused that they couldn't physically help anyone else, male or female. There were just too many. And it was right there that I realized that I had gotten a glimpse, through my completely unacceptable and horrible and wrong abuse, into the fear and shame and hurt that literally hundreds of women in my town knew as facts of their daily lives. In the end, in the most basic terms, I wasn't being abused as a man so much as I was being forced to experience life as a woman. And I'll never forget that.

So please, don't treat another's pain like it means nothing by complaining when you have to experience one tenth of it.

Excuse me, juuust a second there:
All women ALL the time? You might just want to tone it down a bit when it comes to generalizations.
Or is every woman on earth subject to harassment akin to the one men decide to complain about, mind you, every single day she spends on this very planet? Every woman alive?
+ MEN IN PRISON have it better than WOMEN NOT IN PRISON? Are you nuts?
First of: Have you ever been an inmate in a supermax facility?
Second: Which luxurius prisons are you referring to? And how do I get in that prison where every single male inmate has it better than EVERY WOMAN ALIVE?
I would kill to get there...

Lesson: Watch out for generalizations.