Woman robs man on side of road, Two "samaritans" help her because she's a woman

[Calibanbutcher]

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I never claimed sexism about the two samaritans, just that this is what happens when people assume things. They end up being wrong sometimes and less than good results occur. Mind you, I'm not saying it wasn't either, just that I never claimed one way or the other.

I dunno what else to say really, this all happened because they were being sexist towards men. I'm sure they thought they were about to be a shining example of humanity, but instead, they looked before they leaped.

You just said the two samaritans are being sexist towards men because they held down the man without questioning the woman.
You can stop back peddling now.

Rule 34 can be a huge son of a *****. One time I looked up April O'Neil on Google with safe search on and the first image to pop up was her, tied to a chair, being raped by the Ninja Turtles D:

Usually people get the pornstar April O'Niel dressed as April O'Niel, but that is hilarious.

Ehm, did you just make a rape joke (with spiderman in it)?

 

[Eri]

You can stop back peddling now.

You can stop misquoting me now.

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I never claimed sexism about the two samaritans.

"I dunno what else to say really, this all happened because they were being sexist towards men. " - You. In the OP. In this thread.

lolol

Once again, you've taken my words the wrong way. Purposely this time. You know damn well what I meant, Because you're the one who brought up what I was quoting.

Did you not understand the quote?

I never claimed sexism about the two samaritans.

I dunno what else to say really, this all happened because they were being sexist towards men.

So you dud claim the Samaritans were being sexist.

You seem to be confused, so I'll clarify. These are TWO DIFFERENT instances me and the other guy we're referring to. TWO. Not one. The second is the one me and him were talking about and now you are trying to take the other instance and claim something I never said.

Never said? Do you want me to quote you again?

What part of TWO did you not understand? The first instance of sexism was what I put in the OP. The next (e.g. 2nd) was that people assumed two men came to intervene, not a man and a woman.

Do you see now? TWO DIFFERENT instances.

This guy even tells you (again) that this was his post originally that I quoted.

Yes, I posited that theory, not him.

Also, I'd like to point out that just because someone has a bout of sexism doesn't make them a sexist. Sexism is built in. Everyone is sexist to an extent, if that was the case, and to err is human.

So please, don't take my comment as one accusing anyone here of being a sexist.

 

[The Almighty Aardvark]

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I never claimed sexism about the two samaritans, just that this is what happens when people assume things. They end up being wrong sometimes and less than good results occur.

And sometimes they're correct and awesome results occur. We can't be the Ents from the LOTR who take hundreds of years to carefully consider whether or not we want Wendy's or McDonald's.

We... we can't?

Oh...

I wish someone told me this earlier *Removes branches from self*

 

[Lyri]

Excuse me, and please excuse the double post, but did you just make a rape joke?

Nope, Spiderman joke.

stuff

Ok, so you didn't claim that in one instance but you did in another, you never claimed that people are being sexist with their assumptions but you did claim that the samaritans are sexist with theirs by apprehending the male.

 

[NotALiberal]

- Male circumcision (unnecessary surgery performed in rather few places in the world which can and does cause problems such as death but is hardly discussed in such a light)

WOAH. Male circumcision in a hospital =/= women having their genitals mutilated in a hut.

Mutilation is still mutilation. At least one is recognized as barbaric (female circumcision) that only occurs in barbaric 3rd world hell holes, while one is still an accepted "MEDICAL PROCEDURE" in supposedly "civilized" countries.

 

[Calibanbutcher]

Excuse me, and please excuse the double post, but did you just make a rape joke?

Nope, Spiderman joke.

Hah, ninjad.
But it's a joke with spidey-rape?

 

[FallenMessiah88]

It's obvious that these two people only did what they did because they genuinely wanted to help. However, what they should have done was to try and calm the situation down and restrain both the man and the woman.

Perhaps it wasn't sexism as much as it was just rushing into things without thinking properly (common human behaviour). Right now, there's not enough to go on to make any assumptions.

 

[Lyri]

Hah, ninjad.
But it's a joke with spidey-rape?

Yes, yes I'm a hideous monster.
Lock me up and throw away the key.

I accept the burden of proof and did my best to prove it above, so if that didn't convince you that sexism could've been the cause, then so be it.

That being said, I would like to hear your own thoughts on why they automatically assumed it was two males rather then a male and a female, since the OP did not mention the genders of the two motorist.

I think that was directed at me?

Probably because one person posted that it was a male/male who apprehended the victim in this case and it just went on from there.
The OP is vague and the second article with the actual facts is a link in the first article and not quoted directly.

All it takes is one person to post and then people who also didn't read the second article (myself included) follow suit.
Simple case of the Sheeple and a wrongful assumption, nothing sinister at all.

 

[Pyramid Head]

What is it with the character Rainbow Dash and bullshit allegations of bigotry? This Eri here is trying to turn it into anti-male sexism but having actually read the news article the man was drunk and trying to keep the woman from fleeing after she robbed him, as a result it looked like a drunken fight, not a robbery. The intervening people tried to break up the fight and restrained who looked like the aggressor since he was trying to keep the thief from fleeing, but before they could figure out what was going on the thief rabbited. A simple mistake that probably would have happened if the thief was a male.

 

[UnderCoverGuest]

I would have separated them, called the police, and forced each of them to remain at the scene so that a proper investigation could be performed with all witnesses present.

 

[Eri]

What is it with the character Rainbow Dash and bullshit allegations of bigotry? This Eri here is trying to turn it into anti-male sexism but having actually read the news article the man was drunk and trying to keep the woman from fleeing after she robbed him, as a result it looked like a drunken fight, not a robbery. The intervening people tried to break up the fight and restrained who looked like the aggressor since he was trying to keep the thief from fleeing, but before they could figure out what was going on the thief rabbited. A simple mistake that probably would have happened if the thief was a male.

Almost all would help the woman if there was no indication who started it.

I dunno what else to say really, this all happened because they were being sexist towards men.

How do you know this?

Both sources in that link state that it appeared that the man was assaulting the woman. I mean, it says, "The victim said he tried to prevent his assailant from leaving the area, engaging her in a physical struggle" so the robbery victim was the person who initiated the physical encounter. What on Earth would have clued them into the fact that the person they saw attacking the other was actually a robbery victim?

Can you not jump to conclusions about sexism and give the well-intending accomplices for stepping into what looked like assault? I feel bad for them; they were just trying to help stop apparent assault, and now strangers on the internet are assuming that they're horrible sexist people who only intervened for glory.

I mean, what if they had walked into something that wasn't a robbery? What if this same gumption had saved a woman from being kidnapped or raped or something? Would they still be terrible, sexist people then?

That's a crock of shit and you know it.

She initiated the struggle when she robbed him.

If the roles had of been reversed do you think what the men did would have been any different? Because I don't think you could honestly suggest that.

If a woman was struggling, trying to get her bag back from a man these two would have helped the woman, even though by your logic it would look like she's assaulting him.

There's no way to feasibly deny the difference in the way that society perceives men and women in cases of violence or abuse. In any kind of altercation, the man is treated as the aggressor until proven otherwise in the public's eye. They've done studies on this and the bias almost always falls in that way.

 

[Lyri]

That's a perfectly valid reason as for why it be how it be.

The only assumption there is that they bothered reading other peoples comments, but that's not a hard assumption to make.

It's no more right than yours, we're both just assuming.

 

[Lieju]

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So many assumptions about me make this not worth breaking down to explain. I have delt with situations like this, I have broken up many fights, and have a high amount of fighting experience. I understand how most people react and know how to calm someone during a fight.

Humans are just as predictable as animals, I wonder why.... (sarcasm)...

What assumptions about you?
This was a discussion on how one should react to a situation like that(and even if it wasn't, what assumptions are you talking about? You did mention you're no figure of authority, though), and most people don't have that much of a fighting experience and couldn't just waltz in and sort everything out as you apparently can. Even if there's two of them.

 

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That statement was poorly phrased on his part. Had he said and/or or limited it to the genre one could argue that those who don't play them probably suck at them, or cite some of the studies regarding gender preference of genre respectively. But saying "or suck at them" in relation to all games? I don't think that's a defensible statement.

Thank you. I thought the context was clear, but never mind.

If I could be bothered do spend half the day googling demographics of FPS players (let alone simply borderlands players) and demonstrate that 90% of them are men Boudica still wouldn't accept that it wasn't sexism. And they would be right to do so - it is mildly sexist (although also quite funny imo).

The reason that Boudica would be right is because using statistics in this way is inherently discriminatory (which is the point I was trying to make in an ironic manner, seemingly lost on Boudica). The other irony is that if this wasn't a man/woman, but a black man/white man situation Boudica would be all over them as racist if they assumed the black man was the criminal even though statistically it is the more likely to be the black man (in the US at least)

 

[NotALiberal]

He said 25%. He WAS exaggerating, and I actually provided data.

I love how you conveniently forget that male prison rape is an equally bad (if not a larger problem) in US prisons than female rape (as opposed to "sexual assault" which can constitute whistling at a woman). Let's also just ignore that you can find prison rape jokes in most modern sitcoms, and how no one seems to give a fuck males are subjected to inhumane prison conditions IN FUCKING WESTERN SOCIETY, with rape even being used as an incentive for good behavior in prisons. No, this is not hyperbole, do some research you man hating femnazi.

Also, other people have it right, it's NOT a pissing contest. Is there a problem? Yes? Then we should deal with it, we are all HUMANS afterall, this whole "Us vs Them" thing feminism has got going on is why these are STILL such a problem.

EDIT: Source [http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCkQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdigitalcommons.wcl.american.edu%2Fcgi%2Fviewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1432%26context%3Dhrbrief&ei=a0I1UNfLOYb3rQeJ74CABg&usg=AFQjCNFQ8QZjSCaqGncj2kpyuJL5VloIww&sig2=6SgGScCZZBLc2aCzElrpDA&cad=rja]

 

[Pyramid Head]

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Um... who started WHAT? It looked like a man was assaulting someone who was trying to flee, not an open fist fight. If you want to argue anti-male discrimination you need to find a better article, this happened very fast and it looked like the victim was the aggressor. Not to mention that the way you phrased your title looks like you're accusing the two people who intervened knowingly aided a robbery when nothing in the news articles suggest that they were doing anything but stopping what looked like a drunken assault.