World of Warcraft bashers

TheJavaPirate

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bowser610 said:
I would like to know why people bash wow, or mmos at all
I figure its because "people have no lives" or some stupid sh*t like that
I play wow, and i think it is awesome.
why all teh hate?
Cmon man, at least give a semi-intelligible "rant." I haven't seen any forums that really bash WoW in as much as you say they do. I used to play WoW for about two years, and i got totally addicted. People who played WoW have a life, and that life is WoW. You really shouldn't care what other people think if you like it, its an opinion. For example, i go to catholic school, and im a huge fucking metal head. Do you think i care what others think. FUCK NO. Get over it, not everyones going to sympathize with you.
 

MercenaryCanary

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bowser610 said:
I figure its because "people have no lives" or some stupid sh*t like that
I know a Runescape player who calls World of Warcraft bad because its for people that don't have lives.
He has wasted over $400 on his monthly subscription to the membership service and also has spent a total of 462 recorded hours with Runescape on xfire. He's been playing that game a year before I told him about xfire.
Proof---> http://www.xfire.com/profile/assasin5918/ <---Proof
Edit: People usually bash something if they haven't been introduced to it before the other competitor.
But not us, The Escapists!
Escapists Unite!
 

Dangernick42

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WoW is a good game, and good value for the subscription fee. It's more expansive than say, 'Oblivion' and more customisable that games such as 'Champions of Norrath' (PS2/XBOX). Me and a few friends get together every so often and do a team instance, and it give us somehing to talk about when conversation runs dry. Its something social, and I think that the hilarious episode of South Park is to blame for its nerdy reputation.
Thanks.
 

darthzew

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I don't like them. That's why. You pay money to play a game that, if you want to get serious about it, you have to put in a lot of time. Add to that, the gameplay is never exactly as good as other games. I'd rather be playing a single player RPG, and I'm not huge RPG fan.
 

RAWKSTAR

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Yeah thats great.
What does 'teh' mean? Is it supposed to be a new spelling of 'the'?
 

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Darkside360 said:
Why do people hate WoW you ask?

Well IMHO, because it sucks. You will probably say "well look at all the subscriptions" and I say 80% of the player base is 13 and under and that sort of crap appeals to children and some adults. WoW is just crap.
Boy, would you be wrong.

As to the topic at hand, I think a lot of it is knee-jerk reaction, either from the idea of an MMO or from stereotypes that aren't entirely accurate most of the time. Are there people who are horribly addicted to WoW? Of course. Is it perfectly possible to play it, to see most of the content, and still maintain a life? Absolutely. Blizzard has made a game that you don't have to slave yourself to in order to get ahead - of course, some people do anyway.

That said, I truly believe that WoW is the pinnacle of modern MMORPG design (not that there aren't some great other games out there, but Blizzard is a developer on an entirely different level) and - particularly in its current WotLK incarnation - one of the best games ever made. Having met quite a few people on the WoW team this past October at Blizzcon (and visiting the Blizzard studios)... these people take incredible pride in what they do.

Does the game fall short at points? You bet - no game is perfect, and juggling 11.5 million players who all want something completely different out of the title is a feat for even a developer as talented and dedicated as Blizzard.

But there's so much excellence there it makes the shortcomings worth it.
 

Azaradel

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I dislike the fact that people use the argument of WoW being "life-draining" as an excuse for calling it a bad game. It's not the game that deprives you of your social life, it's you. You chose to play the game to such an extent, the game doesn't force you to do it. As a matter of fact, I'm sure many people can testify that any "hobby" can be life-draining if you MAKE it life-draining. Personally, I've been locking myself inside, drawing, with a complete disregard of my social life - and I'm happy with that.

I can't say I understand WoW-players who let the so-called "bashing" get to them - if they enjoy the game, why let things like that get to you? I don't.
 

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There's three kinds of hate that WoW gets - from people who've never or hardly played it, from people who've played it and currently don't, and from its current players. Which one are you referring to?

People who've never or hardly played it - that's been hashed out pretty well in the thread. There's the stereotyping, the "no life" labeling, the hate of the pervasiveness of it into gaming culture, and the like. Whether or not that is legitimate or informed, it's there, and will always be there.

People who've played it and currently don't are another breed. I'm the "Number One" role (minus the beard and hand wringing Riker usually does) at a Warhammer Online fansite, and we deal every day with people who mindlessly bash on WoW rather than have a good discussion about the differences. I'm an ex-WoW player, having gone all the way to Naxxramas pre-TBC, and I dislike the game for my own reasons. Others do as well. That kind of hate is also rational or irrational depending on the argument.

Then there's the people who currently play it. I honestly think the WoW-bashing that occurs from people who don't play the game pales in comparison to the angst, ranting, and rage that happens daily on WoW's own forums from people who currently play the game. The amount of things that upset a player can range from something as small as a bonus item or chance encounter all the way to the highest-end gear and class balance issues. For all the attacking people do on WoW from outside its halls, its current players sometimes seem to hate the game more than they do (but unfortunately can't tear themselves away from it).

For me, my main gripe with WoW extends to my main gripe with a lot of Blizzard titles - they're "McDonaldized" content, geared towards the lowest common denominator, worship the great subscriber number over unique and meaningful game design, and make things terribly generic so that anyone can pick up and play the game. The kind of widespread appeal that Blizzard creates may be seen as a positive to some, but to me, it's a negative, because Frankensteining the best of mechanics from other titles into a package meant for everyone to play doesn't always translate to innovative, interesting design, just recycled. And that's especially apparent in WoW, where the design is geared towards keeping someone who is an addict hooked and forcing them to play constantly to get ahead of the curve. I'm sure this isn't laziness and Blizzard is dedicated to high-quality content. They are to be commended for creating an MMO with such immense appeal. It's just not really a translation into a good game in my opinion.

In essence, WoW and Blizzard don't deserve some of the hate they get, but the design of the game as it stands doesn't discourage that kind of burning hatred, either.
 

Vlane

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I don't hate or bash WoW I just don't like it. I tried it and it just isn't for me.

It's probably the controls. I don't like the W,A,S,D control of WoW.
 

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megapenguinx said:
Personally I don't like MMORPGs because I believe you should only have to pay once to play a game...but that's just me
Interestingly, I found any argument complaining about the price faulty, because I look at it like this.

I buy the game, and play it for a month. That's 65 dollars. That's about the price of a PS3 or XBox360 game.

I play for two months. That's 80 dollars for two months. That's less than the price of two games for any system. Even if you buy a new game only once every three months, you still can't beat the price, and if you go for the long subscription you pay 12 dollars a month. Assuming you are still accessing new content (and there is always more to see) you are fine, and honestly, if you are willing to play a different game multiple times, this is even better.

Additionally, I still don't see how people continue to complain about the grind when there are endless variety of things that allow you to level up without grinding, and it is these areas where World of Warcraft shines. The reason it appeals to a mass amount of people is not because it dumbs everything down, but is because it allows you to make your own way of playing through the game. If you can't find any other way to get through it than just killing monsters but don't like the grind, fine, skip it. What kept me going was the quests and all the little stories that went along with them. Despite the basic fantasy setting (with some exceptions) the plotlines are generally well written and entertaining and usually there's a reason they want you to kill those monsters.

Additionally, there are a few really original and fun boss fights in the dungeons that I can't help but suggest are the best part of the game. Missing these is like playing Final Fantasy 7 and (somehow) not fighting Sephiroth.

The only game that has me beat for value for the money is Rock Band.
 

J.Ballzy_75

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I have never played WoW, and as far as that goes, I probably never will. It's not that it may or may not be a bad game, or that I dislike the community around it. For one, the Warcraft series never really drew me in. Oh sure, the games were fun, I won't deny that. But something about them just never seemed to draw me in deep enough to want to pay monthly to play a game about it.
 

Kyuumi

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Not Good said:
Endless amounts of grind in a never-ending game? I'm out.
What are you talking about?
I played this game up to level 65 and the quest's kept me occupied the whole of the time playing it.

All the people that say online game are for people with no life are idiots, most people play online games with their friends and use teamspeak.

Good game to play with your friends but on your own, its boring.
 

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Pudgyboi said:
Well.. you kinda answered your question. A good majority of people who play WoW.. play it for roughly 30+ a week so it really cuts in their social lives. I recently stopped playing WoW because of the community.. a bunch of yous.
Funny you mention that. When I used to play, I would intentionally avoid personal attachement to my peers in order to retain anonymity and a sense of control over my time management. This allowed me to unplug my ethernet, go out to eat, come back, blaim my internet and complete the dungeon. If they were all close personal friends I couldn't leave them hanging like that.

Needless to say, I really got nowhere with the end game content since my social interactions were all superficial at best.
 

Spartan Bannana

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I play WoW. I like it.
It's not for instant gratification gamers, that's for sure. It's for people who like a long term commitment to something. It's for people who like being rewarded frequently for what they do. That's my 2.5 cents(Inflation)
Darkside360 said:
CantFaketheFunk said:
Darkside360 said:
Why do people hate WoW you ask?

Well IMHO, because it sucks. You will probably say "well look at all the subscriptions" and I say 80% of the player base is 13 and under and that sort of crap appeals to children and some adults. WoW is just crap.
Boy, would you be wrong.

As to the topic at hand, I think a lot of it is knee-jerk reaction, either from the idea of an MMO or from stereotypes that aren't entirely accurate most of the time. Are there people who are horribly addicted to WoW? Of course. Is it perfectly possible to play it, to see most of the content, and still maintain a life? Absolutely. Blizzard has made a game that you don't have to slave yourself to in order to get ahead - of course, some people do anyway.

That said, I truly believe that WoW is the pinnacle of modern MMORPG design (not that there aren't some great other games out there, but Blizzard is a developer on an entirely different level) and - particularly in its current WotLK incarnation - one of the best games ever made. Having met quite a few people on the WoW team this past October at Blizzcon (and visiting the Blizzard studios)... these people take incredible pride in what they do.

Does the game fall short at points? You bet - no game is perfect, and juggling 11.5 million players who all want something completely different out of the title is a feat for even a developer as talented and dedicated as Blizzard.

But there's so much excellence there it makes the shortcomings worth it.
Of course a WoW lover has to come to defend the game for an honest opinion of mine.
Woah, insulting a staffer on your second day and posting a gif? Let's not be hasty here, rookie.
 

Lunar Shadow

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My only problem is people message me on STEAM with WoW hate when I am playing WoW (I have it in my games menus so the chat function is intergrated)and give me crap for it.