Worst BioWare companions

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I never played Dragon Age 2, and I don't have the fondest memories of Dragon Age 1; so I will limit myself to Mass Effect.

Out of them, my least favorite is Kaidan. He seems rather dull, has what amounts as a cameo in 2, and doesn't get much better in 3. I thought his story was interesting enough, but I didn't bought his delivery.
 

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I can only really remember the recent games (Mass Effect and Dragon Age) for I rarely go back to replay old games, but there has always been a companion or two that I won't group with. I am also nervous to go back and play their older games for I think my nostalgia goggles are in full effect for those games too.

Mass Effect 1: Its hard for me to really pick unless you want to talk about the "idea" behind a character because unless you were talking to them on the Normandy they didn't feel like they had much personality. If based on idea it probably would have been Tali, for her nativity got on my nerves.

Mass Effect 2: Jack is my least favorite here, for they tried too hard with the character design so whenever Jack speaks its always a grating experience.

Mass Effect 3: Vega for basically the same reason as Jack for his personality felt very forced, but it didn't bother me nearly as much as Jack's did.

Dragon Age: Origins: Sten just felt flat to me, now it could have been the writing or the voice actor here, but I only had him in my party for one game, the rest of the time he sat in camp.

Dragon Age 2: I have a hard time with this one for I would almost always pick Anders, but I am never sure if its because of I didn't like his character or I didn't like the changes to his character. The other for me with Dragon Age 2 was Carver, I stopped my first game with him because I just got tired of him and restarted the game with a non-mage to get Bethany.
 

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This post will contain *SPOILERS!!!!!* for Dragon Age 2.

It's been years since I played the original Mass Effect, but I remember finding Kaidan Alenko extremely boring. Maybe he gets better in ME3 but .. well, yeah. I actually liked Karth back when I played KotOR, and Kaidan just seemed like the poor man's Karth. Or maybe by the time I played ME1, that kind of character bored me. But I would talk to him during the "okay, now go to talk all your crew members" portions of the game, and I just couldn't get into his story. I think the story itself was interesting. I just found Kaidan very bland.

I really hated Merrill in Dragon Age 2. She was so stupid, the absolute worst kind of naive. At every turn I warned her. Hey, blood magic is bad. Uh, consorting with demons is bad. Hey, remember when I said that this wasn't a good idea? She was stubborn, and refused to accept that, maybe, she didn't know everything. And then after everything went down in her storyline? She still refused to see what her blood magic had caused. "Why wouldn't they let me help them?" Oh my god she pissed me off. I think I would have killed her if I had been given the chance. I played a mage, so my Hawke definitely would know the dangers of blood magic.

I also really disliked Tallis for the same reasons Burnouts3s3 mentioned above.

I liked Isabela a lot at first, for a lot of reasons. But when I learned that she had been sitting on something extremely plot-crucial for something like four years, which eventually erupted into people getting slaughtered, I lost all interest in her. She's known Hawke for years, a man (in my case) who has braved the Deep Roads, fought Darkspawn, bandits of all size and color, demons of all makes, and even some fucking dragons. But she couldn't bring herself to trust Hawke to help her out of a jam ..
 

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Jacob - my god is he creepy. At first I thought he was a nice guy, a bit bland, but decent. Then I played ME3 where he has some dialogue that weirded me out just a bit, then I found out he automatically cheats if he's romanced and acts like a complete dick about it and then finally I romanced him in ME2 and man, ewww. "Sneaking into the captain's quarters, heavy risk - but the priiiiizzzee." Just eeew.

Carth - Whiny annoying crybaby that is supposed to be a dashing handsome heart throb. No. Because he has the same voice actor he even ruined Kaidan in ME1 and turned me bi -hell yes I'll romance a cute blue babe instead of another whiny Carth.

Assley - yes Assley in ME3, not Ashley in ME1. I mean, I disliked Ash because of her racism and prejudice, but she grew on me. In ME2 both Kaidan and she are a bit annoying, but in ME3 I just don't recognize Ashley anymore. Her personality has changed for the worse, she has gotten silicon implats in her boobs and lips and overall she's just being a total dick. Compared to Kaidan, Ashley is really being mistrustful and stupid and keeps acting like a jerk.

Dawn Star - she just annoys me a lot.

Miranda - she is interesting as a character, I just dislike her because her attitude and Cerberus beliefs.

Everyone in DA2 except Varric. I am really trying to like these characters, because they have aspects of them that are awesome, cute or funny, but they also all have some MAJOR flaw that makes me hate them.
Spoiler filled rant incoming: Aveline is too by the book and her ineptitude with Donnic drives me nuts, Isabela is a selfish, walking STD who started a fcking war because of her greed, Merrill keeps playing around with demons despite getting proof again and again that they are dangerous and she can't handle them, Carver is just a jerk, Bethany willingly submits to the circle after everything her family has done to keep her safe, Fenris talks shit about my sister and just hates all mages because the actions of one, Anders is soooo whiny and depending on your stance in the mages vs templars confilct, he is either annoyingly whiny about his power to right wrongs or a total terrorist nutcase, Sebastian at first seems like a nice guy, but threatens to INVADE Kirkwall with an army if you don't want to kill one of your other stupid friends.

Sten - while being an interesting cool guy, from a RP perspective I just can't overlook him slaughtering an entire family who had saved him because of his beliefs.

Im sorry about the ranting, I just love Bioware games so much and want them and the characters in them to be good.
 

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I didn't like Merril or Fenris from Dragon Age 2, which is odd because Merril is that adorable, secret pervert character type that I just can't help but like. Fenris, I just didn't like. He wasn't a pleasant character and his attempts at humanisation (read: him being not so above the party's snark and bumbling stupidity, which were... kind of the whole points of the games: to show how regular people from different walks of life break down when faced with the task of heroism) were just as annoying and unfunny.

Everyone else was fine, even if they were a little boring.

I also didn't like Morrigan from Origins very much. I get the whole Darwinism angle that was intended the give the player an alien perspective on the moral situations, but she was just such an irredeemable bastard that I couldn't sympathise with her. I didn't think she was boring or just a bad character, but just one that was clumsily written and unlikable. From the point where you criticises you for saving the mages, I'd always refer to her as "harpic shrew" in my head to metaphorically one-up her constant complaints.

I did start to like her a bit more as the game went on and her character went from "snarky swamp monster wearing two scarves and a miniskirt" to "well written Stepford Snarker who is actually pretty funny", but by then I'd stopped bringing her to missions and advancing her story for fear of driving the rest of the party off or losing Approval from them, or God forbid forcing an inconvenient story death.
 

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I can't think of many Bioware companions that I straight up hated; most had some redeeming quality at some point in the story. Even controversial characters like Anders had some interesting themes in emphasizing the deterioration that good intentions can lead to.

I had my issues with Morrigan I suppose. Mainly because I wanted to appreciate the pragmatism of the character, but thought her moral ambiguity was ruined by her constant need to show spite and disapproval just for the sake of it.
 

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Quinn from TOR sith warrior story. hes an ass and an imperial todie and not even the good kind.

other then him though no one else really annoys me as merril being really stupid is kinda counter balanced by the fact that shes voiced by Eve Myles and that makes me always romance her:)
 

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Liara is a goddamn Joss Whedon character that Bioware ejaculated onto their typewriters and I hate her, because her entire character arc involves her being a Shepard fangirl and a whiny ***** when she isn't the first person to figure something out.

Mission Vao is a pain in the ass 14 year old "hacker" stereotype played by one of my most hated voice actors, Catherine Taber.

Anders is just plain insane.

Jacob manages to be both boring and a bit racist. Yeah, the only Black guy in the game is also the only one who cheats on his Shepard and knocks up another woman. And then wants to name his baby after her. Way to go, Bioware.
 

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Only Bioware games I've actually played are DA: Origins and the Mass Effect trilogy.
Gotta say, I pretty much hated every companion in Dragon Age Origins that wasn't Allistair. Can't really say I hated any of the Mass Effect companions though, 'cept for maybe James Vega at the very beginning, but eventually he grew on me.
 

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undeadsuitor said:
/everyone/ in dragon age 2 sans Aveline

and Jacob from Mass Effect(s), even Kaiden is slightly more interesting than Jacob
Aw, you don't like Varric? D=

... But yeah. Aveline and Varrick are the only two actually good characters in the bunch. The others range from passable to annoying. What's sad about DA2 to me is that the seeds of a great game are there, it just needed more Dev time. Also, Varrick needed to do more story trolling. If you didn't laugh during his fantasy version of the Bartrand encounter, you have no soul :p

From Origins: ... er... not gonna get a lot of fans with this one... Sten. What ticks me off about Sten is that he's almost impossible to talk to without getting disapproval, unless you've specifically looked it up. Also, he doesn't seem to get that getting an army is NECESSARY to kill the archdemon.

Not the worst character Bioware's ever produced, mind, just the worst companion in Origins. Imo. The worst Bioware's given us though...

From TOR: Lieutenant Pierce. The only reason he exists is to give the Sith Warrior a Ranged Tank companion. If bioware has created a more boring, lifeless companion I have never seen them.
 

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Liara
If she had merely been one companion among the rest, but nope: they had to push very hard the notion that she was Shep's true wooove, which made interacting with her very creepy. You basically get an intellectually precocious, emotionally stunted teenagers who go all schoolgirl crush on your protagonist despite clearly lacking the maturity for an intimate relationship who follows you like a puppy and throw very unsubtle come-ons at Shep, and... Ewww
Just...
Ewww...

Ashley
To make things short, her behavior during ME1 convinced me that letting Shep mercy-fuck Kaidan was preferable to allowing her self-centered, bigoted, racist, chip-shouldering self to survive Virmire

Carver
Here I'm mostly annoyed by how underused this character is: you lose him after Act 1 and he comes back only in short burst during the DLCs and each act finale which doesn't give him the room to develop as a character, which is too bad because I sympathized quite a lot with the Hawke black sheep.
Also, I would have loved to see his career in the Wardens: considering his crushing inferiority complex, meeting my overpowered, world-saving, Arl-ruling battlemage Warden would have been quite a sight: " So you've been feeling trapped in your magic-wielding elder sibling's shadow for all your life heh, boy? Well, you're in luck: Meet your new boss [http://i.imgur.com/I9naElG.png]" (I mean, by the end of Awakening, Origins' protagonist Suefication is so thorough that comedy is pretty much the only way to use the character anymore)

special mention; Fenris
It's a minor thing, but his max rivalry quote says "Fenris has agreed to disagree" yet it's much easier for a pro-mage Hawke to increase friendship than rivalry because rivalry often demands acting like a huge jerk toward him: respectfully disagreeing with him, showing that yes, you understand where he comes from and why he distrusts mages so much but you decided nonetheless to follow a different path and drag him along with it despite his numerous misgivings? It barely increases his rivalry bar leading to a situation where you may end up being forced to kill him during the finale while treating like shit through the game will max his rivalry and allow him to survive. Rival-Fenris relationship with Hawke is not one of mutually earned respect between ideological oponnants: it's just the story of a poor sod who went from one abusive relationship with his Tevinter owner to another one with his Kirkwaller patron. Way to screw up your writting Bioware.
 

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Gotta say, I pretty much hated every companion in Dragon Age Origins that wasn't Allistair.
Oh yeah, I absolutely hated everyone in Dragon Age: Origins. I even hated Alistair. I've got the feeling he was supposed to be the funny one, but I don't know on what planet he would be considered funny. Smarmy git.

Looking back, I don't know how I ever finished DA:O. Later, I tried to get into it again, but I just couldn't...
 

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Regarding Samera
People have been confusing "likable" characterization with good characterization since the first shallow douchebag found out they could steal other people's quotes.

Samera is not a charming personality, nor is she meant to be an entirely sympathetic figure. The unquestioning devotion that she pays her cause in spite of it's extremist philosophy and her reasons for doing so are what maker her interesting and tragic. Samera has surrendered her humanity, anything she may hold precious for herself, on the alter of duty because she believes herself to have failed her children; she is escaping from her guilt.

The mistrust she places in her emotions is compounded by the fact she can't help but feel some pride in Morinth's boundless intelligence and tenacity. The fact that they look exactly alike is about more than plot convenience; Morinth is what Sameria is afraid she would be without her code.

The great irony is that motherhood does what all the villains in the galaxy could never do; it leaves the mighty warrior defeated and pathetic; so dependent and beholden to a draconian ideal that she is prepared to take her own life to reconcile the internal conflict it creates.

Samera, perhaps without realizing it, has failed her children once again.

Regarding Anders
I agree, but I never found Anders interesting. In Awakening, Anders was basically just Alistair lite. Nothing about Anders ever surprised me and he was so fucking preoccupied with comedic relief that he refused to ever take a stand on anything; I couldn't decide if he was a sociopath or just a high functioning autistic.

In 2, he's a straw man on a soap box, not much else to say. His grievance with the Templars is never used to make him stand out, he just reacts the same way you would expect any mage to reacts, with the exception to when he commits an act of terrorism, which might have afforded him some individuality had it not taken place at the end of the fucking game.

Regarding Fenris
I consider Fenris to be among the better DA:2 party members. He's by no means up to Bioware's usual standard, but he at least demonstrates a basic understanding of characterization on the part of his creators. Fenris at least HAS a character, which is more than I can say for some of the other party members.

Who do I think are the worst Bioware companions? Well...

Jacob
Let me be clear; I do not hate Jacob, because there is nothing to hate. The only thing of significance about him is that he is basically a nice guy. Never once did he display any real imperfections or insecurities, and his sheer decency is almost cartoonish.

How is it, that in a world populated by so many morally ambiguous situations, that Jacob has managed to have the most clean and heroic career in the world? For a while, I thought maybe he would turn out to be an actor hired by Cerberus to give them a good image... oh wait.

Zaed (I don't care enough to google his name)
I'm struggling to find something interesting to say here, because bad characters are one of the hardest things to write about; you're describing the lack of something rather than the presence of something. Zaed is essentially just the mirror image of Jacob; kind of an all around violent prick for no reason. Weird because Bioware have previously displayed a great ability for giving pricks good reasons to be violent (See: Subject Zero).

Bethany
Consider this an honorary position for a bunch of characters, because boy did the DA:2 roster suck shit. It's only for the sake of elegance that I've limited myself to one DA:2 character for this list, that and because I suspect that the writing for DA:2's characters was left in the hands of the erotic fan-fiction community.

So, Bethany; I would have put Carver on this list just as easily were it not for the fact that he was kind of a prick, and thus had better characterization than his sister. Bethany is basically a nice person and she is your sister. You love her because we say you do.

Once again, basic decency is our only character trait; we have no great strength's, no great weaknesses, we don't even have those stupid little "charming (i.e: agonizing) quirks" that Bioware thought could pass for characterization with the rest of the companions.

The entire Hawke family encapsulate the game's ineptitude with characterization; "Here are a bunch of people you know nothing about, but they're you're family, so you love them". The sharp contrast between how Hawke feels about his/her family and how the player feels creates a disconnect from the character right off the bat, which is only further compounded by the fact that players of Origins will already have a character they identify as themselves.

EDIT: Quick question; Varric is apparently a very popular companion among the fans, but I've never found him to be particularly appealing. Anyone feel like explaining why he's so great?
 

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Alistair from DA:O

His voice actor just sounds so non-committed that I wouldn't be surprised that he literally phoned it in.
 

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Cyberstrike said:
Mass Effect Kaiden and Tali
Mass Effect 2 Jacob and Thane
Basically this, I haven't played enough of Mass Effect 3 to decide who I hate.
I never found Kaiden to be interesting at all so he was the sacrifice on virmire. Tali, sorry but I'm siding with the geth, they bring more to the table and Legion was more interesting anyway. I don't get what people have against Ashley, she's only racist towards aliens, not people.
 

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I even hated Alistair. I've got the feeling he was supposed to be the funny one, but I don't know on what planet he would be considered funny. Smarmy git.

Alistair is not supposed to be funny: he's supposed to be a very insecure lad who hides his crippling anxieties behind a facade of cheap jokes.
 

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My most hated Bioware companion is Mission Vao, you know. As you probably know shes just so naive and incompetent, you know. It also doesn't help, you know, that she is also so god damn arrogant about her hacking skills, you know. But what i hate about her most is her speech, you know. There are only so many times a person can say "you know" in one conversation before i want to throw them out of the airlock, into the sun while force lightening them to death.... you know.
 

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I had to think about this; if a companion in BW bugs me, I just don't take them with me as squaddies, so they don't leave much of an impact. Also, even though some of them I may not like as characters, I admire their writing, or what the creators were trying to do. 'Great character, just not my cup of tea'. Leliana is a prime example of this. Good attempt at making a religious, sweet, feminine character who could fight tooth and nail for what she believed in. Just not my thing. Same for ME1's Ashley.

This habit of leaving character that don't click with me back at base explains why I don't particularly dislike ME2's Jacob. I admired the attempt at making an ordinary soldier character, but he just didn't grab me, so I always left him behind. From the sound of it, I'm glad this is the one character in all of BW games I played whose romance I never bothered to complete.

I'd have liked them to tone ME2's Jack way the hell down, but ME3 Jack makes up for it...

The point where it all breaks down is DA2, IMO. I actually love that game and played it through a stupid number of times, but I love it for what I felt they were trying to achieve, not for what their insane deadlines forced them to shit out. I thought it was a great idea to have a hero who's not saving the world, just trying to get ahead in it. But then they used it as an excuse to copy paste the entire game's locations twenty times. Gah, I can run those dungeons blindfold by now. I loved what they were obviously trying to do with the characters, but too many of their storylines were nothing but a hot mess. Prize goes to Merril. She's a great character in concept, a great VA, a great squaddie to take along once you mod her skill line so she's actually useful in a fight, not just to drop lovely little one liners. But her 'story' (I use quotes in utter contempt here) feels like an EA exec greenstamped a few preliminary paragraphs dribbled out by a harried writer and passed it to the devs without once engaging his or her brain. It's nonsense from start to finish, stuffed with plotholes, contrivances, 180s in characterisation, and nonsensical decisions.

Aveline and Varric show that the writers and the game was initially committed to great, diverse, original, strong characters and story arcs. You can feel it during Chapter 1 for every character - even Anders and Fenris have moments where they show different facets to their character. But either the writers don't bother to even the tone in the following chapters, or they just throw a storyline out and run away before the fridge moment sets in. Anders is a prime example. I would have preferred if they'd kept Awakening's Anders, honestly, but I give them props for taking big chances with the character and -



- turning him into a terrorist. That character arc makes sense - I don't like it, but it makes sense, especially if you rival him, and you get a better feel for how his conflict between healer and no-holds-barred-freedom-bent-possessed-lunatic is tearing him apart. However, the target for his piss-and-dragonspit bomb is THE CHANTRY? Why not an orphanage, or a retirement home, or a kitten refuge??

"Don't you see this will make it worse for all mages?" my Hawke very reasonably points out against a backdrop of smoking ruins (while Meredith stands around like a ninny for no conceivable reason).

"We were all dead anyway, now or later, what does it matter," answers Anders.

"Well then why didn't you put the bomb beneath the Gallows, in the tunnels that you know so well? You'd have attacked the templars directly, possibly taken out their loony-tunes Knight Commander as a huge fat bonus, and any mage who survived would have been pitied rather than lynched, or at least would have had a better chance of making it out of Kirkwall since the templars were destroyed. Woudln't that have been a more logical target? Since mages survival and freedom has suddenly dropped to the bottom of your to-do list anyway."

"Oh, damn, you're right!" exclaims Anders. "Why didn't you say anything back when you saw me plant the mysterious payload in the chantry, rather than accept my evasive and ominous explanations?"

"I tried to," growls Hawke, "but I didn't have that conversation option. I went twenty times around the Chantry trying to find what any first-grade chemistry student would know is a bomb, but it must have been behind one of the painted-on doors. Even telling Cullen about it can't get it found for some daft reason. At least if you'd planted the bomb beneath the Gallows, I would have assumed you were aiming something at the templars and not asked as many questions. In addition, you'd have had a better story reason not to tell me, even if I'm totally pro-mage and anti-chantry, since it would have possibly endangered my sibling as well. That attack is something I could potentially forgive you for, not for blowing up a whole churchful of people whose only crime was to try to make peace instead of stabbing templars in the throat."

"Damn you, writers!" exclaims Anders, and then Sebastian mans up and plugs him with an arrow instead of whining at Hawke to do it or stamping off in a huff.

No wait, that didn't actually happen, did it...