Would Anyone Like To Explain What The Fuck This Is?!
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I was gonna point that out too. Halloween's already a Christian holiday. Oh well, Alberta's the Texas of Canada, so if something stupid like this had to happen in Canada it was bound to be Alberta.Twilight_guy said:
Err, pretty sure they are exercising THEIR right to the Freedom of Religion.Phoenix_XIII said:
It's not like you can't practice Halloween just like always.
And it's a dumb name anyway, it doesn't even follow the the linguistic origins of "Halloween", just arbitrarily took the last syllable "ween" and stuck that after "Jesus". Now it means: "Son of God Ponders"
Look, get into your head there are ALL SORTS of crazy religions and crazy religious practices in the world, and unless they directly affect you because they are interfering with your science curriculum or whatever... then it's none of your damn concern.
Do you really think america is about "Not tolerating or allowing any religion except the one I personally follow, regardless of contradiction"
(PS: could you explain to me how a Pagan is able to practice a Christian calender event? Because that is what Halloween is: Christian)
I stopped reading partway through that article to facepalm. Some pastor talking about how halloween isn't christian, so instead of simply NOT celebrating it we have to create some bastardized version of it? That's some special kinda retarded there, pal.
its already been said but, Freedom of Religion doesnt mean "listen to mine or else". Unfortunately for you, Freedom of Religion means that any religion can exist and say whatever the hell they would like. Another reason i dont HAVE a religion.
wow, generalization much? Man, sure glad that I'm not a Christian like Martin Luther King Jr, or Thomas Beckett, because they were just assholes, apparently. Hating a religion because of a rushed understanding of its history is also arrogant and selfishTselis said:
You do realise that Halloween is a celebration in a christian sense as well, right?
All Saints Eve.
It's like your getting pissed because someone has a birthday the same day as you.
All I can tell you is to get over it.
All Saints Eve.
It's like your getting pissed because someone has a birthday the same day as you.
All I can tell you is to get over it.
the act of freedom of religion also implies that no religion will be pressed upon others.Dags90 said:
How many people still celebrate Halloween anyway?
I know it's still around but I thought people gave up the whole walking around and knocking on peoples doors and just stuck to scary movies and costume parties.
I haven't seen a trick or treater in like 4 years...
I know it's still around but I thought people gave up the whole walking around and knocking on peoples doors and just stuck to scary movies and costume parties.
I haven't seen a trick or treater in like 4 years...
Actually, I've read through the Bible (which is something that not many Christians I've met have done ), and I've studied history, and the impact religion has had on it. it's why I'm a non-believer. Religion is a crutch, and an excuse for behaving badly to other because they are not like you or your. No rushed or abridged history here, just a considered opinion. If you don't like it, oh fucking well. Oh, and pointing out exceptions doesn't invalidate something, it only highlights how exceptional they were.tirone231 said:
Hey now, no needs to make fun of all us "yanks"...many of us have studied religious history too!Sandor [The Hound said:Clegane]Oh my God, can't stop laughing.. too fucking funny, americans lol!Phoenix_XIII said:
DISCLAIMER - Let me just first say that I'm super pro religious tolerance and strongly believe people should be able to believe whatever they want free of persecution.
So whats so funny then? HALLOWEEN WAS ALWAYS A CHRISTIAN HOLIDAY. Yes you heard it right, no you arguing otherwise doesn't make it the truth. Can you see why I find your rant so hilarious now?
So how does Halloween relate to paganism? Well Neo-Pagans(read American 'Pagans') adopted the holiday in the 20th century, a holiday which by that point had existed for over 500 years as a Christian one. (Incidentally it was originally Scottish as a way of overcoming the ridiculous number of Saints birthdays people used to worship). Yeah for the record Paganism never went to America, it was extinguished in Europe in the late 1600's, 300 years later some Yanks thought it would be cool to revive it.
So yeah this is one of the sweet occasions when both sides of the argument are hilariously wrong, thank for bringing this to my attention.
Ah don't get so bent outta shape, the Christians stole every other Pagan holiday (see Christmas), it's kinda what they do. Like Bowser kidnapping Peach every now and then.
They want to worship the bearded dude in the sky? Let them, they can do their thing and you can do yours.
Besides, 'Jesus Ween' just sounds plain stupid anyhow
They want to worship the bearded dude in the sky? Let them, they can do their thing and you can do yours.
Besides, 'Jesus Ween' just sounds plain stupid anyhow
alright so their protected legally but damn it if someone walks up to me and says "happy jesus-ween" im punching them in the mouth so they can shut up faster.Fagotto said:
so some random religion... = america hate?Phoenix_XIII said:
right...
anyways, shit like this has gone on forever, maybe not out loud in a news article but always has.
hell down the street, we had a jehovas witness guy, instead of candy he'd pass out a pamphlet that they usually pass out, personally i found it fucking troll hilarious, but i can still see why it's a lame move.
honestly just don't let it bug you so much, you can still have just as much fun/spirit as usual.
My only problem here is that you're going after the faith, and not the minority of believers who act that dumb. The Silent majority of Jews/Christians aren't like this, only the vocal minority. Instead of just looking at the Bible, try learning about the context for why it was written, and why certain parts sound the way they are, in other words, Religious history. Religion may be a "crutch" as you say, but for most, it's not a crutch used to attack people, it's a crutch to strengthen one's self against the many troubles in the world...it's why I am a believer.Tselis said:
I pray to my own nonexistent belief you are just trolling.Phoenix_XIII said:
I find myself unable to continue this post in a civil manner that doesn't liberally insult OP's intelligence, so I will leave it at that
I don't know that I would say minority. I was born and raised in the south, as a Lutheran. I can honestly say that the people and people and what they were called upon to believe broke my faith in religion. Now, I strengthen myself when I need it. As for the 'silent majority', well, you know what they say about what happens when good men say nothing. Something about evil ...tirone231 said:
Their not even really assholes, their simply practicing their freedom of religion like everyone else. Just because they don't want to celebrate Halloween doesn't mean their assholes; by that logic Jews not celebrating Christmas would mean their assholes. Personally I love Halloween it's my favorite holiday but if they want to deprive themselves of the fun its no skin off my back or yours. I think you like a majority of people here are just looking for some reason to bash Christianity, but if your a pagan you should promote religious tolerance and respect the beliefs of others.Phoenix_XIII said: