Would the industry be better off without Nintendo?

[Wintermoot]

without Nintendo the industry could collapse in a few years (I think The Game Overthinker talked about it in one of his video,s).
It would also remove the family entertainment games (even with the Kinect and PS Move 99.99% of their games are "hardcore") and would remove the little innocence gaming has and would turn it into what the media portraits it as (games where you play a nameless soldier killing other nameless soldiers).
On the other hand it might give Sega a chance to return.

 

[Sean951]

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The company that still tries to innovate technologically (even if it fails at times)?

Kinect? Sony's 3D (and since you're probably going to bring it up the 3DS's 3D won't work on TVs)?

You mean the Kinect that only came out because Nintendo proved that Motion Controls could have some value if implemented with the right games?

 

[Pat8u]

*points to 1983*

 

[Royta]

I think, to be honest, that the industry would come to a halt pretty quickly. Nintendo has always been the innovator that pushed the envelope beyond what we considered as 'gaming'. Sure some inventions were terribad, but some were great.
They push the industry forward, without them, we'd be stuck in an infinite loop where new consoles only featured better graphics and perhaps better online. No innovation.

But that's my point of view.

 

[Sean951]

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The company that still tries to innovate technologically (even if it fails at times)?

Kinect? Sony's 3D (and since you're probably going to bring it up the 3DS's 3D won't work on TVs)?

You mean the Kinect that only came out because Nintendo proved that Motion Controls could have some value if implemented with the right games?

Yes. But the reason I include Kinect is because it's an entirely different beast from the Wii.

Yes, but proof of concept was what drove it to market, with some of the best games to implement the Wii's motion control also coming out on the 360. I hate to say it, but Just Dance is a surprisingly fun game.

 

[sylekage]

Yes, get rid of basically The Most influential gaming company. EVER. It could leave, yes, and people may get over it. I about 50 years or so. If Nintendo went out, not right away but slowly, and dwindled into nothing, not because of low sales, but their own choosing, there would be screaming in the streets, begging for an encore even Freebird wouldn't be able to satisfy, and Nintendo would raise itself back on its feet and start making games again.

The only way to kill one of the largest gaming companies in the world is if it went absolutely bankrupt. Which will never happen. Nintendo isn't going anywhere, and they're going to keep producing crazy games, and fun games for the older generations. Why? Cuz they can.

BTW, I own an XBOX360, but I grew up on Nintendos, and it holds a special place in my mind for me. And I must re-state, it will be nigh impossible to have Nintendo leave the game

 

[Voiles]

Two letters.

N

and

O

Nintendo are the ones who change everything.

You wouldn't have an analog stick if it weren't for Nintendo, you wouldn't have rumble, if it weren't for Nintendo. You wouldn't have handhelds, if it weren't for Nintendo.

They are the face of the industry, and are about..six years ahead of the game on everything they make.

So, no, the industry would be nothing but FPS's and sequels, and same old boring everything, it weren't for Nintendo.

and no, I am not a fanboy. I have all three consoles, and a killer computer..in fact I play my Xbox 360, and PS3 WAY more than I play my Wii.

Seems contradictory, I know, but I will say this. Nintendo SCREWED their hardcore players with the Wii.

Doesn't mean they aren't inventive, and vital to the industries survival.

 

[Sean951]

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The company that still tries to innovate technologically (even if it fails at times)?

Kinect? Sony's 3D (and since you're probably going to bring it up the 3DS's 3D won't work on TVs)?

You mean the Kinect that only came out because Nintendo proved that Motion Controls could have some value if implemented with the right games?

Yes. But the reason I include Kinect is because it's an entirely different beast from the Wii.

Yes, but proof of concept was what drove it to market,

You could say that about consoles period.

Yes, and we should give* Atari and Pong and whoever else was involved credit, but they also stopped innovating which is why we don't talk about the latest Atari console, but we still talk about Nintendo 3 years after they entered the market.

 

[Sean951]

I wouldn't call the Kinect innovating so much as renovating, but having never had the opportunity to try it out I can't say much. But from what I have seen, it reminds me more of the Eye Toy on PS2 than anything else.

 

[Jared Berg]

gaming is nintendo most of us are nintendo fanboys, even if we may not want to admit it. Gaming would not be better off without nintendo

 

[Sean951]

I REALLY don't get how people can look at Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, and Twilight Princess and call them the same game. 3 games had 3 animation styles, 2 faster world travel systems, 5 or so weapons that were exclusive to the game they appeared in, and 3 different, clearly evolving combat systems. Not to mention the back story and what is going on in Hyrule.

I'm not going to go into the others, as I really don't play most of them, nor do I care nearly as much about them.

 

[Rudigher]

TIL Nintendo was founded in 1887. A video game industry without Nintendo would be... strange. They literally have always been there.

 

[Vault101]

Two letters.

N

and

O

Nintendo are the ones who change everything.

You wouldn't have an analog stick if it weren't for Nintendo, you wouldn't have rumble, if it weren't for Nintendo. You wouldn't have handhelds, if it weren't for Nintendo.

They are the face of the industry, and are about..six years ahead of the game on everything they make.

So, no, the industry would be nothing but FPS's and sequels, and same old boring everything, it weren't for Nintendo.

and no, I am not a fanboy. I have all three consoles, and a killer computer..in fact I play my Xbox 360, and PS3 WAY more than I play my Wii.

Seems contradictory, I know, but I will say this. Nintendo SCREWED their hardcore players with the Wii.

Doesn't mean they aren't inventive, and vital to the industries survival.

It doesnt occour to anyone what if the guys at Nintendo didnt think of this stuff somone else might have? I mean it wouldnt be exactally the same but yeah....

anyway Im not trying to downplay their contribution tot he industry..they pretty much saved it

I mean its impossible to speculate how things could have been anyway

but I mean industry collapse? ehhhh I dont know

Im not trying to be PC elitist....but I mean PC gaming back at its height was doing pretty well (and might I say head of the pack) without nintendos involvment

I mean console gaming is awsome now, even if PC has taken a backseat (I dont even own a console)

I mean the only real "recent" inovaton on Nintendo was just tapping into the casual market which then encouraged the other big players in the industry to follow suit

 

[The Lunatic]

Depends if they keep up their current trend of releasing the same game every year and adding annoying gimmicks.

 

[Manji187]

Ever seen the movie Fight Club? There's this quote: "On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone will drop to zero."

Same for companies cuz in the end nothing lasts forever. Nintendo can live on for another 10, 20, 50, maybe even a 100 years....but I bet they won't live on for a 1000, 10.000, 100.000 years. Same with Sony...same with Microsoft. They haven't been around forever...and they won't be around forever.

Hell...in a 1000 years time we'll prolly have a holodeck/ the Matrix or something completely different.

 

[blazedart]

No Nintendo equals no new legend of zelda games or for that matter no new paper mario games(super looking forward to 3DS game) and that makes me a sad panda

 

[Wondermint13]

Without Nintendo eh?

Yeh. I think it would be. Wii was too much and it repeats the same games with same characters far too often for me. I'd understand if Mario carried on because he's like their diety or something a gaming mascot in a way but we have everrrything else trying to tah along aswell and it's embarrissing and messy now.
Nintendo WAS good. and brought us years of Gaming magic. But now.... Pft! I have no love for its repeats and bad ideas.

 

[jackpipsam]

No, the only thing I think needs to go for the better of the gaming industry is wow

 

[00slash00]

Many of Yahtzee's recent reviews (including his one about the 3DS) seem to have one clear message - Nintendo, we gamers no longer like you, and the industry would be better off without you. But would it?

Nintendo brings in tons of revenue for the industry, and has been one of the most influential game companies of all time, if not the most influential. Howevr, there's really no doubt that they've hampered creativity, and now with the rise of shovelware, just about every two-bit crap developer has been able to make a quick buck on Nintendo's systems - this hurting the base principles of our industry: make good games, or die trying.

With Nintendo out of the industry, suddenly game devs will HAVE to try, or perish. That seems to be what Yahtzee wants.

no, nintendo is keeping the industry alive. they are like a stepping stone to get younger generations into video games. say youre a 3rd grade kid. whats going to appeal to you more and whats going to just scare you off, mario or master chief? i dont think his message is for nintendo to go away. i think his message is for nintendo to step their game up. they have gotten lazy and sloppy and need to make changes

 

[Sean951]

But WoW made MMORPGs actually popular without completely losing difficulty! True it also caters to pretty much everyone else, but I think a lot of companies would benefit from the strategy of, "appeal to the common denominator, but offer a higher difficulty in the form of changed mechanics to entice the "hardcore" fans."