Would the industry be better off without Nintendo?

[Risingblade]

No I needs my pokemons

 

[Vault101]

The company that is still making unique games in a sea of brown shooters?
The company that still values gameplay and fun in most of their games over photorealism, 100 cutscenes and "deep stories"?
The company that didn't jump on the "Achievement" and "DLC" bandwagon and has actual things to "achieve" in their games?
The company that still tries to innovate technologically (even if it fails at times)?
The company that lets about anyone develop for their platform without acting like a controlling regime? (which might also lead to shovelware...)

No...

I think nintendo is fine doing what they are doing....but

1. why do people catagoirse anything that ISNT nintendo as "brown shooter" sure there are too many of them but there are very few of them in my game collection...and NO games from nintendo I mean thats like saying "I prefer a game with a good story as oposed to the latest mario clone which is all nintendo does!"

2. whats wrong with deep stories? (rant mode) you know why I dont give a flying fuck about Mario or Zelda? sure they may be fun but ive got no motivation to play them what so ever, why? mario saves the princess again..whoopdy fucking do...I can get just as much fun out of a game that also has some kind of point/story (Mass effect 2 for example....) why does it need to be one or the other?

Im saying sure if thats what you like great but seriously Ill take the brown shooter any day because that brown shooter is still a million times more interesting than marios unhealthy relationship with his girlfreind

Personally Ill play anything if its GOOD and suits my interests..I dont care how realistic it is or isnt and I dont like being catagorised as some "harcore nut" because I dont like nintendo

 

[Sean951]

Ok, can someone please explain how, with the exception of Majora's Mask(which only used the same engine and models) every Zelda game is OoT and how other than beat Bowser and save Peach, every Mario game is also a remake? Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Sunshine had completely different mechanics than any previous game is the series.

You know if I really wanted to push that issue I could go all the way back to the NES titles.

The only similarities I see are the very base story, which in Zelda lore makes sense. The 3 are bound to struggle through eternity as they possess the 3 triforce pieces. Mario... well, since when has Mario been a story driven game? It is fun game play that has a very basic story meant to give the game play some semblance of a reason to exist.

 

[FalloutJack]

Nah, Nintendo being around is okay. Competition is good for business. Don't care if it's worth anything, but competition is good.

 

[Vault101]

The gaming industry would turn to shit without Nintendo. I'd rather play Zelda and Mario exclusively than nothing but brown shooters and sports games.

It has some bland games made for their system, but what they make is generally high quality. They seem to be the ones driving innovation rather than Sony or Microsoft. Those two compete with each other by just doing what you would expect, make their system more powerful and have a couple exclusives/take away the others exclusive rights. Nintendo mixes stuff up by focusing more on gameplay than graphics and games that want to be movies.

And to be fair Nintendo isn't the only one making good games, if it was just Nintendo without Sony or Microsoft things would get worse as well.

yes thats right because if its not Nintendo its sports or brown shooters

while you did kinda point it out there in your last sentence I really wish peopel would stop steryotyping everything that isnt nintendo

I dont play ANY sports games and HARDLY any brown shooters (only far cry 2 and stalker) and while I had an N64 Id say nintendo only made up %5 of my overall gaming

 

[Sean951]

Ok, can someone please explain how, with the exception of Majora's Mask(which only used the same engine and models) every Zelda game is OoT and how other than beat Bowser and save Peach, every Mario game is also a remake? Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Sunshine had completely different mechanics than any previous game is the series.

You know if I really wanted to push that issue I could go all the way back to the NES titles.

The only similarities I see are the very base story, which in Zelda lore makes sense. The 3 are bound to struggle through eternity as they possess the 3 triforce pieces. Mario... well, since when has Mario been a story driven game? It is fun game play that has a very basic story meant to give the game play some semblance of a reason to exist.

Yeah, it was so fun to play they made the same game 10 times.

Yes, because Mario Sunshine was SOOOO like every other one, along with Galaxy 1 and Super Mario 64, which went 3D. Don't even get me started on Zelda, which has flooded the world, given you a boat, a horse, various things to shoot with a bow, changed animation style 4 times in as many games, added a whole new set up player initiated combos, used masks to transform, used several different instruments for different effects, transformed you into a wolf, and changed your back story and reason for saving the princess every time they have a new go at it. Yup, no originality or creativity going on there.

 

[Wintermoot]

without Nintendo the industry could collapse in a few years (I think The Game Overthinker talked about it in one of his video,s).
It would also remove the family entertainment games (even with the Kinect and PS Move 99.99% of their games are "hardcore") and would remove the little innocence gaming has and would turn it into what the media portraits it as (games where you play a nameless soldier killing other nameless soldiers).
On the other hand it might give Sega a chance to return.

 

[Sean951]

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The company that still tries to innovate technologically (even if it fails at times)?

Kinect? Sony's 3D (and since you're probably going to bring it up the 3DS's 3D won't work on TVs)?

You mean the Kinect that only came out because Nintendo proved that Motion Controls could have some value if implemented with the right games?

 

[Pat8u]

*points to 1983*

 

[Royta]

I think, to be honest, that the industry would come to a halt pretty quickly. Nintendo has always been the innovator that pushed the envelope beyond what we considered as 'gaming'. Sure some inventions were terribad, but some were great.
They push the industry forward, without them, we'd be stuck in an infinite loop where new consoles only featured better graphics and perhaps better online. No innovation.

But that's my point of view.

 

[Sean951]

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The company that still tries to innovate technologically (even if it fails at times)?

Kinect? Sony's 3D (and since you're probably going to bring it up the 3DS's 3D won't work on TVs)?

You mean the Kinect that only came out because Nintendo proved that Motion Controls could have some value if implemented with the right games?

Yes. But the reason I include Kinect is because it's an entirely different beast from the Wii.

Yes, but proof of concept was what drove it to market, with some of the best games to implement the Wii's motion control also coming out on the 360. I hate to say it, but Just Dance is a surprisingly fun game.

 

[sylekage]

Yes, get rid of basically The Most influential gaming company. EVER. It could leave, yes, and people may get over it. I about 50 years or so. If Nintendo went out, not right away but slowly, and dwindled into nothing, not because of low sales, but their own choosing, there would be screaming in the streets, begging for an encore even Freebird wouldn't be able to satisfy, and Nintendo would raise itself back on its feet and start making games again.

The only way to kill one of the largest gaming companies in the world is if it went absolutely bankrupt. Which will never happen. Nintendo isn't going anywhere, and they're going to keep producing crazy games, and fun games for the older generations. Why? Cuz they can.

BTW, I own an XBOX360, but I grew up on Nintendos, and it holds a special place in my mind for me. And I must re-state, it will be nigh impossible to have Nintendo leave the game

 

[Voiles]

Two letters.

N

and

O

Nintendo are the ones who change everything.

You wouldn't have an analog stick if it weren't for Nintendo, you wouldn't have rumble, if it weren't for Nintendo. You wouldn't have handhelds, if it weren't for Nintendo.

They are the face of the industry, and are about..six years ahead of the game on everything they make.

So, no, the industry would be nothing but FPS's and sequels, and same old boring everything, it weren't for Nintendo.

and no, I am not a fanboy. I have all three consoles, and a killer computer..in fact I play my Xbox 360, and PS3 WAY more than I play my Wii.

Seems contradictory, I know, but I will say this. Nintendo SCREWED their hardcore players with the Wii.

Doesn't mean they aren't inventive, and vital to the industries survival.

 

[Sean951]

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The company that still tries to innovate technologically (even if it fails at times)?

Kinect? Sony's 3D (and since you're probably going to bring it up the 3DS's 3D won't work on TVs)?

You mean the Kinect that only came out because Nintendo proved that Motion Controls could have some value if implemented with the right games?

Yes. But the reason I include Kinect is because it's an entirely different beast from the Wii.

Yes, but proof of concept was what drove it to market,

You could say that about consoles period.

Yes, and we should give* Atari and Pong and whoever else was involved credit, but they also stopped innovating which is why we don't talk about the latest Atari console, but we still talk about Nintendo 3 years after they entered the market.