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Nimcha

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jawakiller said:
Bradd94 said:
jawakiller said:
I hate MMOs not just WoW. If people want to waste their time doing the same thing over and over again... Thats their business. Now multi-player-shooters are fun because there actually is some gameplay (aka fun). I find MMOs really really boring. All it is is repetition. -snip-
Firstly, I play WoW, but I'm not a take-a-bullet-for-the-alliance kind of player. I play casually with a group of friends, and I find it fun and refreshing.

The point I'd like to address is where you said Multiplayer Fps' are 'fun because there actually is some gameplay (aka fun)'. Gameplay and 'fun' do not go hand in hand; because fun is subjective, gameplay is not. The statement you made seems to imply that the reason you prefer FPS over MMO is because you don't think MMO have gameplay and are repetitive; whilst FPS are not repetitive and have loads of gameplay.

Both genres are repetitive, however an MMO like World of Warcraft has far more content than any FPS, and you stated that gameplay=fun. With your own logic: World of Warcraft should be one of your favourite games.
But WoW requires little to no skill. Maybe some occasional thought process and a few strategic moves but thats it. An FPS is based on reflex and accuracy. The veteran players even use tactics. WoW just lacks this key element. All it needs is time. Lots and lots of time.
Oh I've played WoW for quite a while on different levels and I can tell you this is just not true. Players in the topguilds have a fundamentally different way of playing than the average casual raider. Not talking about PvP here either.
 

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jawakiller said:
So you're agreeing the fight animations are bad. I could play a game with that but the fact that the game is so damn monotonous really ruins it. If WoW had more interesting missions and quests I might start playing it again but the "kill x amount of units or go from point A to point B" is really boring. I would rather run around and camper kill personally.
I never agreed to it. I just said that you are nitpicking. I actually prefer the animations in WoW.

And you've just said it yourself, your opinion will not change because you would rather do something monotonous and annoying in a different type of game. You've backed up what I've said three and four posts ago, yet you continued to keep this alive. There was never any discussion or argument here because you never had an open mind from the beginning. You still don't. Which is sad, see, I was open to you convincing me that there was a reason that WoW was not fun and had no gameplay or skill. However, the only thing you ever gave me was that the fight animations are boring, which they are anything but.

Thank you for playing.
 

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I have played it several times throughout its evolution and never really got into it. I have several friends who love it and I do enjoy playing with them, but I just couldn't play it for more than a week or so. I guess so many people trying to convince me that it really is fun and that I should give it another try has gotten me a bit irritated. I'm pretty sure that if I didn't like it the first 3 tries I'm probably not gonna like it the 4th.

I don't necessarily hate the game, I just hate it when people try to convince me that I must have been wrong cause it really is awesome and that I should play it just one more time!
 

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Also, I dislike WoW because of the way it evolved. It used to be challenging for quite a lot of people, now it's easy but for shitloads of more people.
 

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Personally, I hate it because it turned ever so many of my friends into anti social addicts who aren't much for doing anything, including looking for jobs or parenting.

Sure, that might speak of the quality of people that I spend time with, but I for one, got tired of watching children go neglected and friends more worried about running their guild then paying their own bills...

What's worse, is that if WoW wasn't the cause of it, I fear that something else would have filled its place instead...

Also, I've known people to play WoW with a newborn baby precariously balanced in their lap. Not strapped in or swaddled, but just SITTING there, just waiting to fall off. Either WoW makes people into idiots, or it appears to be some sort of "idiot buff" that gives them and extra 40 percent towards their idiocy rating.

That being said, and my angry rant being over... Are my friends just idiots or is the game the cause or for that matter, is the game a crutch, allowing them to act in such a way?
 

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Gxas said:
jawakiller said:
So you're agreeing the fight animations are bad. I could play a game with that but the fact that the game is so damn monotonous really ruins it. If WoW had more interesting missions and quests I might start playing it again but the "kill x amount of units or go from point A to point B" is really boring. I would rather run around and camper kill personally.
I never agreed to it. I just said that you are nitpicking. I actually prefer the animations in WoW.

And you've just said it yourself, your opinion will not change because you would rather do something monotonous and annoying in a different type of game. You've backed up what I've said three and four posts ago, yet you continued to keep this alive. There was never any discussion or argument here because you never had an open mind from the beginning. You still don't. Which is sad, see, I was open to you convincing me that there was a reason that WoW was not fun and had no gameplay or skill. However, the only thing you ever gave me was that the fight animations are boring, which they are anything but.

Thank you for playing.
You said that you have been playing this game for how long? That's really harsh. Saying I have a closed mind (which I probably do) but acting like you don't. Your opinion is just as biased as mine. If I convinced you WoW sucked you would have to agree that you have wasted a good portion of your life playing a bad game (instead of playing a fun game or getting laid or something). That would be a considerable blow to your pride. So this a losing fight for both of us.
 

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If you dont like it then dont play it, its that simple. No ones holding a gun to the back of your head and forcing you to pay the subscription. To be honest im probably as sick of hearing people ***** about the game as non WoW'ers are of hearing about the game. All these people saying "oh it eats up all your time and destroys your social life" and the like.. well.. what are you doing with your free time? Whinging about the damn game!! I've played it on and off for the last four years and i enjoy it. So leave me in peace to enjoy something i think is fun and get on with your own so obviously exciting lives.
 

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jawakiller said:
Gxas said:
jawakiller said:
So you're agreeing the fight animations are bad. I could play a game with that but the fact that the game is so damn monotonous really ruins it. If WoW had more interesting missions and quests I might start playing it again but the "kill x amount of units or go from point A to point B" is really boring. I would rather run around and camper kill personally.
I never agreed to it. I just said that you are nitpicking. I actually prefer the animations in WoW.

And you've just said it yourself, your opinion will not change because you would rather do something monotonous and annoying in a different type of game. You've backed up what I've said three and four posts ago, yet you continued to keep this alive. There was never any discussion or argument here because you never had an open mind from the beginning. You still don't. Which is sad, see, I was open to you convincing me that there was a reason that WoW was not fun and had no gameplay or skill. However, the only thing you ever gave me was that the fight animations are boring, which they are anything but.

Thank you for playing.
You said that you have been playing this game for how long? That's really harsh. Saying I have a closed mind (which I probably do) but acting like you don't. Your opinion is just as biased as mine. If I convinced you WoW sucked you would have to agree that you have wasted a good portion of your life playing a bad game (instead of playing a fun game or getting laid or something). That would be a considerable blow to your pride. So this a losing fight for both of us.
Dude, just leave please, you are embarrassing yourself.
People play wow because they have fun, have you thought of that? I have been playing for 2 and a half years and I am probably going to quit because it is starting to get less fun, but for those 2 and a half years I have had heaps of fun and met some of my best friends. I have played many many many FPS's over those years as well, which are also fun but don't have the content that WoW does and they become very repetitive and boring.
And dropping down to the level of saying WoW players need to get laid? seriously? You do realize that about 40% of the WoW player base is female and many people have had successful relationships because of WoW?
Bottom line is, People have fun on WoW, people have fun on FPS's, but people don't play the same FPS for thousands of hours because it gets repetitive and boring, just like WoW, but way quicker.
 

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jawakiller said:
You said that you have been playing this game for how long?
Three years, just about.

That's really harsh. Saying I have a closed mind (which I probably do) but acting like you don't. Your opinion is just as biased as mine. If I convinced you WoW sucked you would have to agree that you have wasted a good portion of your life playing a bad game (instead of playing a fun game or getting laid or something). That would be a considerable blow to your pride. So this a losing fight for both of us.
I would not have to agree that I've wasted my time playing it for this long if you had convinced me, however, because I enjoyed my time playing. I would cancel my subscription, of course.

Bringing up sex as a benefit of not playing a game is just stupid and immature. I mean, how can you guarantee that if I hadn't been playing WoW, I would be having sex? Even then, why would you even begin to assume that I value having sex over everything else? I will let you know that I continue to play and am still dating a wonderful girl and holding onto a social life. Not that I can prove that to you, seeing as you most likely won't believe me (what with your closed mindedness and all).

My opinion is not biased in this case. I have tried both of the types of games that you have brought up and played the hell out of them. However, I stuck with WoW longer because I was having a more difficult time with it. I find improvement in my games fun. I don't find going +3 and winning every match I play fun. Thats just not how I work.

My pride has nothing to do with this at all. I had fun with WoW, still do. Sometimes I get bored, take a break, and then come back and play again. I have my sense of moderation, so I don't spend my entire day playing. You keep attempting to attack me, in which case all you do is get me closer and closer to writing off everything that you have said to me.
 

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I've got a friend currently pushing me hard to play the game. I love RPG's. But the concept behind most of these grind-fest MMO's are ridiculous to me. There's little real sense of story. No true character depth, and a truly addictive sense of competition.

Plus they really don't shut up about it.

Every time I hang out with this friend (Who's free time is nearly monopolized by this horrid game.) he has to "show" me why I should play, and tries to encourage and pester me into buying it, and purchasing time for the game.

His selling points are about how he goes on a mission "Raid" with some ridiculous amount of people, is told how he sucks on vent, and they all fight for a single item that will go to just one person and be super great... Oh but that item cant be sold or traded? And it doesn't advance a story at all.

I mean... Wtf? And then showing me the 50 bajillion horribly named colors for items (Epic, rare, gunderschlagen....) I mean... At least regular games have an end.

This one seriously doesn't. And is all about doing the same things daily!
 

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Gxas said:
jawakiller said:
You said that you have been playing this game for how long?
Three years, just about.

I would not have to agree that I've wasted my time playing it for this long if you had convinced me, however, because I enjoyed my time playing. I would cancel my subscription, of course.

Bringing up sex as a benefit of not playing a game is just stupid and immature. I mean, how can you guarantee that if I hadn't been playing WoW, I would be having sex? Even then, why would you even begin to assume that I value having sex over everything else? I will let you know that I continue to play and am still dating a wonderful girl and holding onto a social life. Not that I can prove that to you, seeing as you most likely won't believe me (what with your closed mindedness and all).

My pride has nothing to do with this at all. I had fun with WoW, still do. Sometimes I get bored, take a break, and then come back and play again. I have my sense of moderation, so I don't spend my entire day playing. You keep attempting to attack me, in which case all you do is get me closer and closer to writing off everything that you have said to me.
Dude forget it. You play your games and i'll play mine. This started as me telling everyone why I don't care for MMOs in general. I really didn't want to have to argue with half the goddamn people on this site. So I say again, just forget about. I have been posting these arguments not because I believe them but because I got ganged. When ten people say you're wrong one gets slightly defensive. Sorry if I offended you. And the laid part was a joke (loaded with stereotypes, I know).
 

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I don't hate the game, no, the game itself is fun (in some respects) and well thought out designing to various tastes. What I hate about WoW is how it gives no one else in the industry a chance. No one else can get a foothold in an MMO market without being compared to it. It's like every soft drink in the world failing before Coca Cola because everyone tries to compare it to it. That's what I dislike, but it's not just WoW I hate with it, it's any company that doesn't give anyone a fighting chance. Yes I know, it's CAPITALISM in a nut-shell and it's gonna end up being owned by just one industry unless there's an apocalypse that burns all the license agreement forms. It's just unfair though and cruel, letting no one have a chance...that's what I hate and it's pretty much what WoW runs off...still it's a good game...it's just evil...
 

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banksy122 said:
jawakiller said:
Gxas said:
jawakiller said:
So you're agreeing the fight animations are bad. I could play a game with that but the fact that the game is so damn monotonous really ruins it. If WoW had more interesting missions and quests I might start playing it again but the "kill x amount of units or go from point A to point B" is really boring. I would rather run around and camper kill personally.
Dude, just leave please, you are embarrassing yourself.
People play wow because they have fun, have you thought of that? I have been playing for 2 and a half years and I am probably going to quit because it is starting to get less fun, but for those 2 and a half years I have had heaps of fun and met some of my best friends. I have played many many many FPS's over those years as well, which are also fun but don't have the content that WoW does and they become very repetitive and boring.
And dropping down to the level of saying WoW players need to get laid? seriously? You do realize that about 40% of the WoW player base is female and many people have had successful relationships because of WoW?
Bottom line is, People have fun on WoW, people have fun on FPS's, but people don't play the same FPS for thousands of hours because it gets repetitive and boring, just like WoW, but way quicker.
Chill out, holy shit. The never getting laid joke was exactly that, a joke. But now that you attack like this I'm not so sure it's a joke for you. Calm down. I was telling everyone why I, as in me not you, don't like MMOs. Keep your precious WoW, I sure as hell don't want it.
 

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jawakiller said:
Sorry if I offended you. And the laid part was a joke (loaded with stereotypes, I know).
Thank you for the apology (one of the reasons that this community has held me for so long), as I did get a little offended, I'll be the first to admit it.

Problem with jokes online is that sarcasm is very difficult to translate through text.

And goddamn these captchas... They get more and more difficult to type and I hate cycling through them...
 

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I dont hate WoW in particular, I hate all (mostly) MMO's. To me its just grinding the same task over and over and over and over aain so you can purchase better equiqment so you can take on new tasks you can grind over and over and over...
 

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I hate it because I played it for a couple of months and had 0 fun doing so. I don't hate it in a way that makes me tell people they are stupid for playing it and having fun, I hate it in the way I hate Minecraft- I tried it and didn't like it so I would hate spending more time with it.

But to the people that do like it, I'm glad you found something you enjoy and keep playing until you tire of it if you ever do.
 

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jawakiller said:
I hate MMOs not just WoW. If people want to waste their time doing the same thing over and over again... Thats their business. Now multi-player-shooters are fun because there actually is some gameplay (aka fun). I find MMOs really really boring. All it is is repetition. It reminds me of farmville, do this... Now do it again, 7 billion times (sorry, I know it hurts to hear a game being compared to that piece of shit by Zynga). Oh and they fucked the name of the RTS, which I really enjoy.

"Hey, wanna play Warcraft?"
"Sure. I got my character to level sixty yesterday."
... "NO NOT THAT ONE YOU DICKHEAD!"... "I'm gonna go kill myself now."

FPS is just as repetitive, spawn die spawn die spawn get a kill then die 5 times more.
 

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Im a little confused with the level of vehemence some achieve when posting about their dislike of WoW. For the type of game it is wanting to be, its almost a perfect game, and i mean that as detached and objective as possible. I realize its not everyones cup of tea and thats cool, different strokes for different folks (my favorite ar hemorrhagic), but when people get so...upset it seems like they object to WoW by principle, the same sort of reaction when people debate about philosophy or religion. My question, why? I suppose post what you like or dont like about the game mechanics and story itself, but if you you HATE it, post why. I mean post why and how dislike for something turned into passionate hate.
A lot of people who "hate" WoW are actually former players themselves, who got bored or are dissatisfied by the direction WoW took with
BC/WotLk/Cacta.
As someone who started at launch I know quite a few people who stopped playing along the line,
I also know some people who still play yet wait for a better MMORPG (which will never come).
Incidentially they throw around the term "WoW killer" quite often.

Also, don't forget the Warcraft lore fans, WoW is notorious for shitting all over it, after all.

Then there's people who dislike MMORPGs in general or WoW in particular, either because of the "social effects" or because they never got into them/it.

So, there's plenty of genuine reasons to "hate" WoW; wheather they or the whole "hating popular things because they're popular" thing overweight, now that's hard to tell.
 
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Laurie Barnes said:
I actually don't hate WoW, that is I don't hate Azeroth, Outland Icecrown, and Cata. In fact as a result of playing the Warcraft series and getting a good number of the Loremaster achieves in WoW, I like to think I am pretty familiar with the Mythos, and that more than anything is what kept me playing. I actually read the quest text and I do everything I can for myself to make the experience immersible.
However that all dies for me when a person kills my harmless tauren as he picks fucking flowers, and then hugs my dead body while saying "L o L, T r y H a r d F a g g o t ."

So I don't hate Wow, just the people who play it.
Glad to see someone else who does this too instead of skipping through all the texts just to say, "I don't care what you're wanting me to do, just give me my loot now!" Loremaster (also the first time I've actually seen/heard that anyone else had it) was very much worth it; it actually gives you a sense of what's going on in all portions of the world and proves that you actually give shit about the back-story.

On a side note, I just don't understand the complaints that WoW ruined the lore that the Warcraft RTSs were building up; I've played them all, and everything that was mentioned in the previous games meshes really well with the current lore, and any completely new content for the MMO (like the Old Gods) still don't counteract the core story of the series.

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Sir_Auron_the_Badass said:
Basically this. Given that it has roughly 12 million subscribers despite being almost 6-1/2 years old
I'm 22, thank you very much.

I understand a lot of people's hatreds of WoW, but THIS complaint is so misinformed and mis-aimed it's just silly.
Um, what? I was mentioning how old WoW is, what does your age have to do with that? Plus, what is misinforming, the number of subscriptions? If so, then how is it misinforming and how would you know?
 

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I can understand why people hate it. It is highly addictive. I use to play it and I still think it is really good, however I was talking to a friend who said that he lost one of the best mates to the game, He didn't play it and his mate just stop going out like they use to and now they rarely talk because his mate is always playing it. This would only really be the case with MMOs because they don't end. There is always something to do.

If his mate played Halo, he would of completed it and that would of been it. But never ending gameplay is dangerous is uncontrolled. I personally would play it for 17hours a day, giving that I had a free day, and luckily it was a good time in my life to play it but for other people without such an easy life, it can screw up a lot of things.

It is quite easy to see the damage it causes and I guess that is enough reason to hate it. I personally love it and always will.