WWE 2K16 Will Not Include Hulk Hogan

[Quellist]

Don't you just love how they say "Offensive language and slurs" without ever saying exactly what was said? Thus allowing everyone to assume the worst, some kind of hate-filled screed, thus guaranteeing all the twitter trolls and the easily offended will riot when it could have been a stupid, out of context joke. But we can't know so we cant make a reasonable judgement.

I'm getting sick and tired of seeing things presented this way

 

[shintakie10]

Don't you just love how they say "Offensive language and slurs" without ever saying exactly what was said? Thus allowing everyone to assume the worst, some kind of hate-filled screed, thus guaranteeing all the twitter trolls and the easily offended will riot when it could have been a stupid, out of context joke. But we can't know so we cant make a reasonable judgement.

I'm getting sick and tired of seeing things presented this way

To put your mind at ease, this is (one of) the thing that got his ass shitcanned.

I don't know if Brooke was f***ing the black guy's son.

I mean, I don't have double standards. I mean, I am a racist, to a point, f***ing n****s. But then when it comes to nice people and s***, and whatever.

I mean, I'd rather if she was going to f*** some n*****, I'd rather have her marry an 8-foot-tall n***** worth a hundred million dollars! Like a basketball player!

Its no all mexicans are rapists and murderers, but its definitely in the "this shit is racist as fuck" camp.

The WWE are such a bunch of bitches, Christ. They probably all start sweating profusely whenever anybody mentions Chris Benoit within a kilometer of them.
So what if Hulk Hogan said some mean things?

They're a publicly traded company. Shit like this can (and does) tank stock prices. You can bet if they hadn't shitcanned him then the stock price would have gone even further down than it did.

And yes, they probably do sweat about the Christ Benoit stuff because it, much like all the lawsuits the NFL faces, is a huge black mark showing the really ugly side of professional wrestling.

 

[The Great JT]

This is how Vince McMahon operates. You anger him or shame the company, you are an un-person. If you're an active wrestler who says or does something Vince doesn't like, you will be de-pushed and written off TV or given a comedy gimmick for the sole purpose of mocking you. Vince is a spiteful, self-centered prick and don't you forget it.

That said, I'm not letting Hogan off the hook just yet either. I remember the sabotaged storylines and pushes, all in the name of feeding Hogan's bank account and ego.

 

[Tankistas]

Hogan never seemed to be a very nice person, but to get erased from WWE for comments made in private, recorded without permission...8 years ago..quite excessive. I could understand (though not support) suspending current projects or contracts, but not scrubbing his entire legacy. Also, one should not forget that Mike Tyson - a convicted rapist - gets to be in the WWE hall of fame.

Wait wait wait! Are you saying roided-out macho man from a "sport" watched primarily by white rednecks has racist tendencies?!
Well fuck, next you'll be saying that about NASCAR fans and Klan members.

Would not have expected a person with a cartoon horse avatar of all things to be so prone to generalizing fandoms based on their most negative stereotypes. And that KKK mention...truly classy.

 

[Wuvlycuddles]

I wonder if they are going to go full Benoit and delete all uploaded create-a-guy Hulkalikes too.

 

[Arshaq13]

Wait wait wait! Are you saying roided-out macho man from a "sport" watched primarily by white rednecks has racist tendencies?!
Well fuck, next you'll be saying that about NASCAR fans and Klan members.

There can only be one Macho Man. And he is the 'cream of the crop', as said by himself.

Damnit I freakin' love the Macho Man.

 

[Something Amyss]

Careful now. If Triple H hears some people are putting Brock above him now that Hogan is out of the way he might decide it's time he gets back in the ring and stop the Beast because he is The Game, the Cerebral Assassin, the ultimate Arsekicker, the King of Kings, the only diamond in this business, and so on (though the real reason is because in RL he now truly is the Connecticut Blue Blood).

Nah, Hunter'll never be a true blue blood. CT is too elite. Fair enough on not forcing him out of retirement. Hell, let's make up some more awards and titles just to be safe.

 

[Something Amyss]

Don't you just love how they say "Offensive language and slurs" without ever saying exactly what was said? Thus allowing everyone to assume the worst, some kind of hate-filled screed, thus guaranteeing all the twitter trolls and the easily offended will riot when it could have been a stupid, out of context joke. But we can't know so we cant make a reasonable judgement.

I'm getting sick and tired of seeing things presented this way

Then why didn't you post something for context? Did you actually look it up before complaining? It was pretty easy to find stuff even before it was posted here.

I wonder if they are going to go full Benoit and delete all uploaded create-a-guy Hulkalikes too.

Oh man, if they remove the option for me to use a leg drop finisher, I will scream "censorship" for all I'm worth.

You're assuming they'll let us create characters again.

I'm not sure they could afford the hit to business. If you can't play as "generic army guy" online, what's the point?

Hogan never seemed to be a very nice person, but to get erased from WWE for comments made in private, recorded without permission...8 years ago..quite excessive. I could understand (though not support) suspending current projects or contracts, but not scrubbing his entire legacy. Also, one should not forget that Mike Tyson - a convicted rapist - gets to be in the WWE hall of fame.

Even WWE's real world decisions don't make sense.

The WWE are such a bunch of bitches, Christ. They probably all start sweating profusely whenever anybody mentions Chris Benoit within a kilometer of them.
So what if Hulk Hogan said some mean things?

Are you against voting with your wallet?

 

[Neurotic Void Melody]

Even though wrestling aint my bag, Hulk was a prominent childhood memory (what films?? Never happened! *sticks fingers in ears* ladedala)and this gives me a few mixed emotions. Understandably, WWE want to maintain as family friendly image as possible, they must have noticed how damaging internet outrage can be and decided not to risk that bag o' bombs.
It is hard to tell if his apology is sincere, but 8 years have gone by and i would have thought he'd slip up along there somewhere if he maintained such negative views. Hell, a lot of my older family hold racist views, but I dont judge them for it as it appears the norm for older generations here.

 

[Something Amyss]

Yes. Voting with wallets has gotten us to where we are today (shitty homogenized video games, movies, books, foods) at the top of the commercial ladder and creativity as well as artists standing up for themselves at the straight bottom.

Should I be required to buy something I'm not interested in?

 

[Something Amyss]

I don't recall saying that

That's good, since I never claimed that you did. I simply asked a followup question. I am, however, missing an alternative in which a commercial venture can operate. Since things like games, movies, and pro wrestling (per your examples) are all commercial ventures....

And yes, artistic vision in professional wrestling?

 

[Something Amyss]

I don't have a good alternative, but I still don't think voting with the wallet works. It's a good theoretical idea, but most consumers seem to consume things that, at least if you ask me, are pretty awful, thus screwing it all up for everyone else.
I don't really understand however, why did you ask me the question in the first place?

Because you're complaining about a public company being "bitches" for dropping a guy before public backlash bites their shares in the ass.

It seems most gamers, at least most gamers on this site, are very "vote with your wallet" and it seemed contradictory to the gaming zeitgeist to complain that a company might be hurt for saying things which were not approved of. Then again, I hear when someone else does it it's censorship, so what do I know.

But again, I'm not sure how art comes into this, and that I think is now the larger issue. Even if you argue wrestling is art, WWE is a business with a corporate structure and WWE's executives run it as such. Well, most of the time. It's not about the art, and I don't think it's ever been, but it certainly hasn't been under Vince McMahon and company. Pro wrestling is intended as a mass consumption consumer product, so why is art even an issue?

 

[WendelI]

funnily enough his worst enemy in the ring was the ultimate warrior yet both as real people are racist homophones who would probably get along just fine.

 

[FogHornG36]

Is this the one that will finally have mod support? because we are going to have the team tag team of Chris Benoit, and Hulk Hogan, also known as "team vacant"

 

[Nilanius]

Going to express my own opinion here. I was never really a hulk fan. I always liked the Undertaker and The Rock personally. However, the comments were recorded without his consent, 8 years ago. He has long retired. Fire him if you must, but like it or not, he did build WWE to what it is today, and I don't feel removing him from the hall of fame, is justified. Stop carrying his merchandise and not putting him in a game, is more than sufficient. The only good movie he ever made was Suburban Commando, and even it was cheesy but in a somewhat good way as it was more a parody/comedy movie.

So my opinion: Sure fire him, but removing him from hall of fame, after he'd long retired from the company, seems a bit much.

 

[Parasondox]

Really? Punishing someone because of something they did eight years ago?

I just love holding people to mistakes made 8 years in the past, in entirely irrelevant situations that have nothing to do with aspects of his present life.

But I do not know Hulk personally, nor do I care about his personal life/opinions/ideologies - so I digress entirely.

Welcome to the new age. Just last week The Sun newspaper posted images and pic of the Queen and her family doing Nazi salutes. She was 6 (or 8) at the time and back before the war and everyone mocked that silly guy with that silly mustache.

So remember kids. Even when you were 2 and you took a shit somewhere in the house and you are now in your 30's. That can be used against you.

Back on topic now. Racism is bad. end of. No way of defending it or trying to find an easy ground around it, it's still bad. So the WWE can do what they want. It's their company and rules.

 

[RJ 17]

For everyone surprised about Hulk getting busted over something that happened 8 years ago, have you forgotten that the EXACT same thing happened to Paula Deen? A "leaked transcript from a sealed deposition" pegged her for using racial slurs, though I believe in her case it was 10 or 11 years before the news broke.

Apparently once you become a public figure, there's no statute of limitations on what you have to say. Anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of public opinion.

 

[babinro]

Really? Punishing someone because of something they did eight years ago?

Classic overreaction forced on by extremist societal expectations and businesses needing to perform damage control in the unlikely event there was going to be a severe backlash. WWE isn't in the wrong here with their actions and neither is Hulk Hogan. This is simply the world we live.

I don't agree with this at all. To me this sends people the following messages:

1) You CANNOT learn from your mistakes, ever.

2) You deserve to be held accountable for any mistake you make forever.

3) No one has ever said anything they didn't truly mean when in an emotionally vulnerable state (angry, upset, stressed, etc)

 

[Baresark]

It's a crazy world we live in. A recording of an 8 year old conversation can ruin a guys life. A person can be a whole new person in that time, their opinions drastically changed. While I don't find racial slurs acceptable at all when it comes to people I'm around, if someone says something behind closed doors and does not translate into some kind of action, I don't see why it should matter now. But that is just my opinion and I couldn't possibly blame anyone for being offended by it.

 

[Czann]

I hope people may see where this PC BS is leading.

Guy does shitty thing and can't just repent and apologize anymore. Now guy must be utterly destroyed by the thought police.

We can see the seeds of a totalitarian regime 1984 style being planted right now.