WWE 2K16 Will Not Include Hulk Hogan
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Is this the one that will finally have mod support? because we are going to have the team tag team of Chris Benoit, and Hulk Hogan, also known as "team vacant"
Going to express my own opinion here. I was never really a hulk fan. I always liked the Undertaker and The Rock personally. However, the comments were recorded without his consent, 8 years ago. He has long retired. Fire him if you must, but like it or not, he did build WWE to what it is today, and I don't feel removing him from the hall of fame, is justified. Stop carrying his merchandise and not putting him in a game, is more than sufficient. The only good movie he ever made was Suburban Commando, and even it was cheesy but in a somewhat good way as it was more a parody/comedy movie.
So my opinion: Sure fire him, but removing him from hall of fame, after he'd long retired from the company, seems a bit much.
So my opinion: Sure fire him, but removing him from hall of fame, after he'd long retired from the company, seems a bit much.
Houseman said:
Welcome to the new age. Just last week The Sun newspaper posted images and pic of the Queen and her family doing Nazi salutes. She was 6 (or 8) at the time and back before the war and everyone mocked that silly guy with that silly mustache.GarouxBloodline said:
So remember kids. Even when you were 2 and you took a shit somewhere in the house and you are now in your 30's. That can be used against you.
Back on topic now. Racism is bad. end of. No way of defending it or trying to find an easy ground around it, it's still bad. So the WWE can do what they want. It's their company and rules.
For everyone surprised about Hulk getting busted over something that happened 8 years ago, have you forgotten that the EXACT same thing happened to Paula Deen? A "leaked transcript from a sealed deposition" pegged her for using racial slurs, though I believe in her case it was 10 or 11 years before the news broke.
Apparently once you become a public figure, there's no statute of limitations on what you have to say. Anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of public opinion.
Apparently once you become a public figure, there's no statute of limitations on what you have to say. Anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of public opinion.
Classic overreaction forced on by extremist societal expectations and businesses needing to perform damage control in the unlikely event there was going to be a severe backlash. WWE isn't in the wrong here with their actions and neither is Hulk Hogan. This is simply the world we live.Houseman said:
I don't agree with this at all. To me this sends people the following messages:
1) You CANNOT learn from your mistakes, ever.
2) You deserve to be held accountable for any mistake you make forever.
3) No one has ever said anything they didn't truly mean when in an emotionally vulnerable state (angry, upset, stressed, etc)
It's a crazy world we live in. A recording of an 8 year old conversation can ruin a guys life. A person can be a whole new person in that time, their opinions drastically changed. While I don't find racial slurs acceptable at all when it comes to people I'm around, if someone says something behind closed doors and does not translate into some kind of action, I don't see why it should matter now. But that is just my opinion and I couldn't possibly blame anyone for being offended by it.
I'm seeing a weird kind of double standard, maybe it has to do with who's been in this thread, but...why is it that Donald Sterling hangs in the court of public opinion for saying racist shit while unknowingly being recorded, but when it happens to the Hulkster he's getting fucked over and it isn't fair? Is there a statute of limitations on saying racist shit in private?
These aren't rhetorical questions, I'm honestly trying to understand. First famous people are getting fucked over by their twitter conversations, now it's things said in private...maybe we should just learn to speak exclusively in Newspeak so that nothing incriminating can be found 10 years later and cause doubleplus ungood things happen to our life's work.
These aren't rhetorical questions, I'm honestly trying to understand. First famous people are getting fucked over by their twitter conversations, now it's things said in private...maybe we should just learn to speak exclusively in Newspeak so that nothing incriminating can be found 10 years later and cause doubleplus ungood things happen to our life's work.
The thing that is really weird about this to me, is if you even listen to the recording, it seems pretty obvious that the guy is self aware that his opinion isn't necessarily a good one. He's just stating out-loud thoughts that a lot of people have but never voice. Hell, most people I know are xenophobic to some degree or another, Hulk's not wrong when he says, "I guess we're all a little racist." I kind of agree with that, I think pretty much everyone has xenophobic or racist or sterotyping thoughts. It's a pretty unavoidable part of being a human being. What really ought to count is how you act on them...Baresark said:
Really, his biggest crime is being secretly taped while being truthful.
One other thing I've noticed is that as someone who is not white and has experienced actual discrimination (not just people being salty with me and slurs) I find myself in the odd position of being way more forgiving about this kind of behavior than an enormous amount of white people on Twitter. It's really a strange kind of madness that seems to have overtaken mostly white middle class people. I don't know why.
Well I think the fact that Donald Sterling employed black people and (correct me if I'm wrong) discriminated against blacks, telling someone not to bring them to he's games.DrunkOnEstus said:
Hogan said what he did 8 years ago but has never been recorded actively discriminated against someone who is black.
What Hogan said was racist, and WWE is right in detatching themselves from the media storm this could cause. Still worries me that someone can get punished this much for something they said behind closed doors, 8 years ago. Ironic that "Hulkamania" was born in 1984.
I love the idea that the totalitarian age starts with the HulksterCzann said:
OOHH BROTHER THE TIME OF 24 INCH PYTHONS IS OVER, THE GOVERNMENT HAS US IN A CAMEL CLUTCH NOW BROTHERRR, THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO IS CHALLENGE THE GOVERMENT INTO A YAPAPI STRAP MATCH BROTHER.
A lot of people seem very forgiving when it comes to themselves, but there also seems to be no limit when they are offended for someone else. Most of the guys I know are like you, just basically a bit too busy with their own lives worry about what someone says about their race. Maybe you're like me in that when someone is sitting there insulting you one way or another, I just kind of feel sorry for them. So much time and energy devoted to something like that feels wasted to me.Jake Martinez said:
